Severinb 309 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I still want Pastore. He is like David Silva. And i was so sad when he went to City. Won't hate on City for that, but we needed a guy like that.And right now only player on the market i see that can fit that role missing by Deco is Pastore. If Chelsea can get a good deal done for Pastore i would be happy. But i am against paying that much for him.Great post totally agree we really need him and mata! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I would prefer Pastore to Hamsik actually. Maybe because I have seen Hamsik only in you-tube videos Pastore has excellent ball control, a sudden change of pace & direction and brilliant first touch which we so desperately lack in our midfield. And most importantly he can beat a man or two with dribbles which is something totally alien to all our players currently !!!I disagree. Mikel, Ramires and josh have these qualities. What we lack in our midfield is pin-point, precise and defence splitting passes. hence the lack of creativity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetsajCFC 1,255 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I disagree. Mikel, Ramires and josh have these qualities. What we lack in our midfield is pin-point, precise and defence splitting passes. hence the lack of creativityMikel can't dribble. Ramires rarely does so and Josh isn't up for that kind of responsibility. Wishful thinking there mate. We need a world class playmaker, it's reality and Pastore would be ideal fit. If he will shine is anyones guess because it's impossible to predict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,487 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I disagree. Mikel, Ramires and josh have these qualities. What we lack in our midfield is pin-point, precise and defence splitting passes. hence the lack of creativityOur midfield passing is also lacking speed and decisiveness at times...Don't know what happened this season, but our play seems a far-cry from period in early 2010, when we used to score from one touch passing.... don't know if its because of new tactics, new players or if the opposition have just figured out our act..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFear 23 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I disagree. Mikel, Ramires and josh have these qualities. What we lack in our midfield is pin-point, precise and defence splitting passes. hence the lack of creativityI have not seen Mikel dribble. he has a good pass though, but rarely uses it !!!! Ramires can beat people with his pace not exactly dribble out of trouble (except for that goal against Man city). He is a box-to-box midfielder. Yes, Josh can dribble but would need more time and experience before we can entrust him to do for it on a daily basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballancee 5 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Chelsea-transfer-news-50m-plus-rated-Javier-Pastore-set-leave-Palmero-after-they-give-up-on-keeping-him-article746082.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Yes Mikel knows to dribble. Don't get me wrong, I ain't saying he is Messi. But we didn't see him to do so under Ancelotti's area because the latter man gave him the order to stay deep with the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue In Green 86 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I disagree. Mikel, Ramires and josh have these qualities. What we lack in our midfield is pin-point, precise and defence splitting passes. hence the lack of creativityIsn't that McEachran's main skill? I know he played a lot of holding midfield roles last year, but he does have a reputation for his distribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Go and watch Mikel at the U20 championship 2005 and get back to me. it's pointless arguing over the obvious.you don't emerge as the second best player at a tournament behind the almighty messi without possessing some degree of technical ability. if he doesn't demonstrate his dribbling ability often enough, that's mourinho's fault who turned a very promising attacking midfielder into a DM. As for Ramires and Josh. I have seen enough of them to conclude that both players possess good/great dribbling skillsBtw, The ability to dribble is not necessarily what makes a great play maker. vision, excellent decision making and passing are more important skill-set hence why Xavi is a better play maker than Okocha/Pastore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Can't wait for some news.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Stop going You won't get my vote, you will be a bad mod, nobody listen to you :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 You won't get my vote, you will be a bad mod, nobody listen to you :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Don't cry, we still can negotiate that, if you see what I mean :eyebrows: ps : I was joking huh ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Isn't that McEachran's main skill? I know he played a lot of holding midfield roles last year, but he does have a reputation for his distribution.Even though he's shown that for the reserves. I'm basing my assertion on his first team.performances. And even if josh has shown enough ability, our board will still always prefer an £80 million pound established and experience player with similar ability to Josh That's the reality at SW6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Don't cry, we still can negotiate that, if you see what I mean :eyebrows: ps : I was joking huh ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Mikelmania is rocking !I don't think our interest in Sneijder is over.There is still a good chance to sign him.If Guus comes,everything can happen.I believe in Guus and his negotiation skills.We didn't give up on Wesley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Go and watch Mikel at the U20 championship 2005 and get back to me. it's pointless arguing over the obvious.you don't emerge as the second best player at a tournament behind the almighty messi without possessing some degree of technical ability. if he doesn't demonstrate his dribbling ability often enough, that's mourinho's fault who turned a very promising attacking midfielder into a DM. As for Ramires and Josh. I have seen enough of them to conclude that both players possess good/great dribbling skillsBtw, The ability to dribble is not necessarily what makes a great play maker. vision, excellent decision making and passing are more important skill-set hence why Xavi is a better play maker than Okocha/Pastore.excellent post ,,,so many seem more impressed by the dribbler ..Xavis strength is to play a simple killer ball ...because he has vision...and EXPERIENCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetsajCFC 1,255 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Go and watch Mikel at the U20 championship 2005 and get back to me. it's pointless arguing over the obvious.you don't emerge as the second best player at a tournament behind the almighty messi without possessing some degree of technical ability. if he doesn't demonstrate his dribbling ability often enough, that's mourinho's fault who turned a very promising attacking midfielder into a DM. As for Ramires and Josh. I have seen enough of them to conclude that both players possess good/great dribbling skillsBtw, The ability to dribble is not necessarily what makes a great play maker. vision, excellent decision making and passing are more important skill-set hence why Xavi is a better play maker than Okocha/Pastore.That's 6 years ago, things change. I suggest you to watch last season or the season before. It's like Torres saga, he had brilliant season in 2009, now he had a slump in form. Can't look back into history to make future predictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 excellent post ,,,so many seem more impressed by the dribbler ..Xavis strength is to play a simple killer ball ...because he has vision...and EXPERIENCEI will take playmakers in the mold of Xavi, Pirlo (in his prime), Paul scholes (in his prime) over the pastores of this world everyday of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Are you comparing Mikel with Xavi ?Please tell me I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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