Liam Rosenior Thread

[Special Juan 28,449]

After today's official announcement it is now confirmed that Liam Rosenior is now in charge at Chelsea FC until 2032

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/article/liam-rosenior-appointed-Chelsea-head-coach

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[Laylabelle 9,614]

I hope he does welll..I doubt hell last 6 years or maybe he will who knows. I cant see us leaping to new heights and back to where we used to be but time will tell..

 

 

[Special Juan 28,449]

I wish him the best but doesn't stop me thinking this will be a very short term appointment and this gig will be way too big for him

I want him to prove me completely wrong, but the egos and some players in this team will be way to much. From the first team meeting he has to get this lot and I mean everyone on side from the off, if a handful leave the room remotely thinking "who the fuck is this guy" it's game over, he has to nail the first meeting and have them eating out of his hand.

[Pizy 19,084]

I think the only way he gets people on board and believing in him is if we miraculously turn things around completely the rest of this season and finishes with UCL football. We could at least then convince ourselves that we’d have something to build on.

But even if he does that these guys above him will go wild doing silly bullshit in the transfer window.

[OneMoSalah 9,001]

Let’s be honest, regardless of how well he comes across, it is a poor appointment. Young English head coach or not, it reeks of cronyism & I don’t think anyone else will be quaking in their boots at the proposition of us appointing this guy. He says he will give everything… he will have to. He has a lot of winning over to do.

Ultimately, nothing will change unless the structure, recruitment & ambition shown by those above changes. And given the lack of pedigree Rosenoir has, he is going to be the easiest one for BlueCo & co to manage because he has no real skin in the game, is already someone they have managed in France so to speak with forcing his hand with using certain players. So it is not really going to be any different, probably worse in that regard because Maresca, Poch, Tuchel beforehand wanted more from them.

As @Special Juan said, he has to get all the players to buy in from minute 1 & that is to have any chance of making it beyond the end of this season, yet alone past that. Ok performances may improve but they couldn’t get any worse at times with Maresca.

And still, this appointment, it is not going to appease 2 fanbase’s that are sick & tired of BlueCo. Even if he by some minor miracle is a success here, the distain with them at Strasbourg has been there for 12 months plus. The Tuchel, Potter, Poch & even Maresca scenarios from certain angles have shown huge incompetence. That huge cutting of personnel that first full summer also. The link with BlueCo has undoubtedly got to end when that 10 year period is up.

Edited yesterday at 12:57 by OneMoSalah

[Vytis33 1,350]

Was a 6.5 year deal really necessary?   Not exactly like we had to had to pry him away from another organization he was basically on the payroll already 

[Duppy Conqueror 1,572]

We'll improve by just not doing dumb shit like heavy rotation of the back 4.only picking players either on current merit or belief in their ability to grow.not bigging up players but then by actions of holding them back contradicting what you have said about them.

Help transition of talented young players into the first team.some of which that are in the squad already,some at Strasbourg.they have the talent.let them grow.young players having a short leash whilst veterans making mistakes get a long leash is Marescaball.

We'll see on those but I'm confident he won't be such a disaster in interviews or be as negative,stuck ridged to tactics and selections that aren't working.

No need to predict how it will pan out.

#CarefreeProperChelseatothecore

 

 

[DDA 10,091]

6.5 year deal? 
 

The state of this club is astonishing.

[Strike 7,669]

Gary O’Neill, Rosenior's replacement at Strasbourg, is represented by Wasserman Agency. Wasserman also represent former Chelsea manager Graham Potter, incoming manager Liam Rosenior, Mali Gusto, Lesley Ugochukwu and until Summer 2025, former Chelsea manager Enzo Maresca. Close links to current director Paul Winstanley as well. 

The next time someone tells me this board is making decision by "analyzing metrics", I'm just gonna take it with a pinch of salt. There is now a growing body of evidence that they're just doing deals that are easy business-wise instead of thinking what is important football-wise. 

 

Edited yesterday at 13:57 by Strike

[Strike 7,669]

1 hour ago, Vytis33 said:

Was a 6.5 year deal really necessary?   Not exactly like we had to had to pry him away from another organization he was basically on the payroll already 

With a good break-clause, it is fine I think. Gives the belief that we have long-term goals

[Vesper 30,660]

I am 100 per cent backing him atm.

I hope he does great things and elevates the club despite the board's too-often-poor decisions.

[OneMoSalah 9,001]

11 minutes ago, Strike said:

Gary O’Neill, Rosenior's replacement at Strasbourg, is represented by Wasserman Agency. Wasserman also represent former Chelsea manager Graham Potter, incoming manager Liam Rosenior, Mali Gusto, Lesley Ugochukwu and until Summer 2025, former Chelsea manager Enzo Maresca. Close links to current director Paul Winstanley as well. 

The next time someone tells me this board is making decision by "analyzing metrics", I'm just gonna take it with a pinch of salt. There is now a growing body of evidence that they're just doing deals that are easy business-wise instead of thinking what is important football-wise. 

 

I will keep saying it, its cronyism at its finest, yes.

We all laughed at United with ten Hag and signing players from his agency also…. looks like we have our very own scenario 😂

[Mário César 1,396]

at least I hope we will see gusto, palmer and reece in a proper position  

[calculatingInfinity 1,489]

Hope I am wrong, but I think this will be a harsh wakeup call to some people, that Maresca was actually a good coach.  I just dont see this working out well.

But yeah, he deserves a fair chance, even if I wish it wouldn't have happened. Not his fault the board are clowns. Doubt the contract length will be much of an issue, they no doubt got some clauses in there if/when they fire him.

Edited yesterday at 14:40 by calculatingInfinity

[Fulham Broadway 17,540]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

I am 100 per cent backing him atm.

I hope he does great things and elevates the club despite the board's too-often-poor decisions.

We need to do this - cant just write him off. Give it a few days...😁

[Fulham Broadway 17,540]

I am questioning how important a coach actually is after listening to Reece and Enzo say the players just continue regardless

If a coach can actually be revolutionary in tactics and motivation, all well and good

In classical music so many performances are just as good, if not better without a conductor. 😉

[Mhsc 1,117]

While it is quite uninspiring, I actually think he'll be fine. We know the head coach role is much more limited in scope than old style manager positions, so the damage he can do is already minimised, and it seems he is very strong tactically like Maresca was so I suspect it is at worst a sideways move there. His decisions will be micromanaged just like Maresca's were. They'll continue to get their way on player signings, and how many minutes which player can play.

Then it is whether he can sort out culture and mentality, not sure he can do any better than Maresca did, but time will tell - maybe he has a bit more of a chance there tbh. And in game management, and talking to the press (and a closely related topic of building a relationship with the fans), which were the two obvious flaws in Maresca similarly its unlikely he's any worse. Imo it is pretty much a sideways move and not much will change.

One great hope of all of this is that we have a huge problem IMO with Cole Palmer that is not being spoken about much (as he's English), he's been bang average for a long time now and if Rosenior can change the guys role or whatever is required to get him back to being the best player in the world then obviously that would be a huge positive for us, I do think Maresca is partly to blame for Cole's drop off. Maybe another man, even if tactically similar, will have a different perspective and find a way to get Cole back.

p.s. Gary O'Neil will be our manager in 18 months I guess and on and on the cycle continues.

[DDA 10,091]

I don’t agree with the appointment but I have to say, he comes across well in this video. Looks like the players will warm to him if we get results. 
 

 

[Special Juan 28,449]

Like I said earlier today, I'm wanting him to prove everyone wrong including me but the biggest thing is how the players take to him and how he sells himself to them. The moment they frown at you or don't fancy it it's game over and they all have to buy in.

He's got basic errors, easy to play against, discipline and being more killer in front of goal to sort out and if he wants top 4 he has to sort this and quickly. He also has to decide his strongest 11 and quickly and stop all this chop and change shite

[YorkshireBlue 3,328]

4 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Like I said earlier today, I'm wanting him to prove everyone wrong including me but the biggest thing is how the players take to him and how he sells himself to them. The moment they frown at you or don't fancy it it's game over and they all have to buy in.

He's got basic errors, easy to play against, discipline and being more killer in front of goal to sort out and if he wants top 4 he has to sort this and quickly. He also has to decide his strongest 11 and quickly and stop all this chop and change shite

I’ve watched some videos on him, and he looks like he gets the basics down and down quickly, he likes quick passing and is very forward thinking, he suits the kinda players we have better than maresca for sure, but like you say, he has to come off well from the get go