Chelsea 0-1 Nottm Forest

[Mário César 1,327]

 

jesus christ

we can not sign a single player above 25 years of age?

wtf is going on?

 

 

[DH1988 1,352]

Caught up on the match now and I have to say talk about one step forward four back, I cannot see any positive other than some decent link up play here and there.

I also do not understand this three at the back lark, Chilly actually performs worse. 
 

Caicedo is has been absolutely shocking and I genuinely hope it’s a lack of fitness and crap preseason. Doesn’t have the all round combative style that he was known for at Brighton at all, lazy lax passes.

[TheHulk 2,507]

11 minutes ago, Mário César said:

 

jesus christ

we can not sign a single player above 25 years of age?

wtf is going on?

 

 

A shame Disasi escaped.

[Blue Armour 4,459]

41 minutes ago, Mário César said:

 

jesus christ

we can not sign a single player above 25 years of age?

wtf is going on?

 

 

But apparently, the manager is to blame for the young inexperienced squad. Smh.

Edit: I don't really believe the club had an agenda against older players, else we wouldn't have Nkunku.

But this transfer window in particular has been all about chasing the next big thing. I just hope these new incomings aren't here to just use Chelsea as a stepping stone to for a bigger payday. 

We need players to who want and know how to compete.

Edited September 2, 2023 by Blue Armour

[Gundalf 806]

• xG City 2.00 - scored 5
• xG Spurs 2.40 - scored 5
• xG Brighton 1.32 - scored 3
• xG Chelsea 2.28 - scored 0

We have the same xG than City in this season so far - they scored more than double the amount of goals. 

Same old. Since Costa and Hazard left us, we lack offensive efficiency a lot. 

[Gundalf 806]

Top of the league 🤩

[cdubzcfc86 2]

34 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

Top of the league 🤩

we are based on that on relegation form then, and if u add the last 7 or 8 games of last season to that.... wtf is going on ???

[NikkiCFC 8,369]

43 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

Top of the league 🤩

Check that stat for players instead of clubs. 

1.Jackson 6

2. Watkins 4

Everyone else 3 or less. 

[Vesper 30,270]

16 hours ago, Mário César said:

jesus christ

we can not sign a single player above 25 years of age?

wtf is going on?

I have little problem with is at all

let's look at my dream wants ages from the last two windows 

by position

(not listing pipedreams who are also under 26: Mbappe (24), Håland (23), Vini Jr (23), Bukayo Saka (21), Phil Foden (23), Pedri (20), Donnarumma (23), William Saliba (22), Bastoni (24), Rodrygo (20), Martin Ødegaard (24), or Martinelli (22))

ALL of these are 25 or under (and lower down in my 'too old' list you will see that only SEVEN non GKers are over 26. and of those 7, only Skriniar was actually possible)

Diogo Costa    
Goalkeeper
23

Giorgi Mamardashvili   
Goalkeeper
22

Josko Gvardiol   
Centre-Back
21

Ronald Araújo
Centre-Back
24

António Silva
Centre-Back
19

Alphonso Davies
Left-Back
22   

Nuno Mendes
Left-Back
21  

Theo Hernández  
Left-Back
25

Achraf Hakimi
Right-Back
24

Jeremie Frimpong   
Right-Back
22

Aurélien Tchouaméni
Defensive Midfield
23

Bruno Guimarães   
Defensive Midfield
25

Manuel Ugarte
Defensive Midfield
22

Jude Bellingham
Central Midfield
20

Federico Valverde
Central Midfield
25   

Gavi  
Central Midfield
19   

Eduardo Camavinga  
Central Midfield
20

Jamal Musiala 
Attacking Midfield
20    

Florian Wirtz   (IF healthy) 
Attacking Midfield
20

Xavi Simons 
Attacking Midfield
20

Rafael Leão
Left Winger
24    

Khvicha Kvaratskhelia
Left Winger
22

Federico Chiesa  (if healthy)
Left Winger
25

Moussa Diaby  
Right Winger
24

João Félix  
Second Striker
23

Victor Osimhen  
Centre-Forward
24    

Randal Kolo Muani   
Centre-Forward
24   

Julián Álvarez   
Centre-Forward
23

Dusan Vlahovic   
Centre-Forward
23    

 

The only 26yo or older players I rated to buy (very few and many are impossible, and FIVE are GKers and many (8) are 26yo, so missed it by months)

no 30yo and up non GKers (only Kane, De Bruyne, and Salah are excluded, guck Neymar, I never wanted him once he left Barca, he was a pipedream and is poison)

only 15 non GKers and of those 15, EIGHT are 26yo

bold are the only 27yo and up who are non GKers, and only one of those 7 (Skriniar), was actually available

Thibaut Courtois   
Goalkeeper
31    

Ederson
Goalkeeper
30    

Jan Oblak    
Goalkeeper
30

Alisson   
Goalkeeper
30    

Mike Maignan 
Goalkeeper
28 

Rúben Dias   
Centre-Back
26    

Marquinhos  
Centre-Back
29    

Milan Skriniar   
Centre-Back
28    

Rodri    
Defensive Midfield
27   

Joshua Kimmich    
Defensive Midfield
28

Frenkie de Jong   
Central Midfield
26    

Nicolò Barella  
Central Midfield
26

Lucas Paquetá   
Attacking Midfield
26

James Maddison   
Attacking Midfield
26

Luis Díaz  
Left Winger
26   

Kingsley Coman   
Left Winger
27

Leroy Sané  
Right Winger
27   

Ousmane Dembélé  
Right Winger
26   

Serge Gnabry  
Right Winger
28

Lautaro Martínez    
Centre-Forward
26

Edited September 3, 2023 by Vesper

[Reddish-Blue 2,513]

46 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

• xG City 2.00 - scored 5
• xG Spurs 2.40 - scored 5
• xG Brighton 1.32 - scored 3
• xG Chelsea 2.28 - scored 0

We have the same xG than City in this season so far - they scored more than double the amount of goals. 

Same old. Since Costa and Hazard left us, we lack offensive efficiency a lot. 

City are just a machine at this point, they had cheat codes all over the pitch and they managed to get the cherry on top as well with finishers like Haaland, Alvarez and co. 

It is borderline pathetic when our attack can't score a goal at home in front of our fans.  Forest were good against both Arsenal and United but their attack stepped up when required....that's the biggest difference between where we are right now (outside the top 6) and the top 4 teams.

Saka, Bruno, Rashford are all game changers in the final third.  Where is our game changer in the front 3?    Who's going to step up and actually get the team across the line against a low block?  

We'll be lucky to get 8th place this season with the lack of attacking output. 

[robsblubot 3,595]

Stats suggest Jackson wasn't that clinical in front of the goal--he wasn't... quite disappointing performance. Like I said earlier, it's far more important to me that he can intercept a pass into the box, than drop deep to make a nice runs--let others do that.

Eyeballs suggest we did not create nearly enough against an opposition we should be beating comfortably. We managed to pin them in their own half a few times during the match, but never had the control of the match. Not good enough.

Everything plays a part. Ignoring teamwork, 9+ other players, and focusing on whether 1 or 2 players can kick the ball just right is maddening to me. 😄

I'm not disregarding top quality in front of the goal, but only really a few clubs have that... and certainly not our opposition today.

To be clear I've been saying we lack quality (in numbers) in attack for a while and that our subs for the wings and striker are either too young, not good enough, or both.

Edited September 2, 2023 by robsblubot

[Johnnyeye 7,514]

long season ahead, better not have too much expectations with this lot.

[cdubzcfc86 2]

funny how were always up early on motd when we loose, that spurs twat liniker seemed so smug talking about it too.. last week we won 3 - 0 and we had a short snip 2nd last shown - this week, when we lost, our 0-1 home defeat was played ahead of 4 and 5 goal games.. aul shit the pitch must edit motd as well as present it...

[Mário César 1,327]

16 minutes ago, Johnnyeye said:

long season ahead, better not have too much expectations with this lot.

our club as a top club ended with the sanctions

Chelsea has been ruined by bohly ideas 

[cosmicway 1,333]

29 minutes ago, Mário César said:

our club as a top club ended with the sanctions

Chelsea has been ruined by bohly ideas 

Or is it ?
Certainly we are -again- in a tight spot but there is more to it.

Ask first what makes teams fall from grace ?
There are three possible causes:

1) Sellout, all the good players are sold.
This happens with teams-firework. They shine for one-two years, can't stand the economic pressure, prefer to sell out.
2) Aging players and a clueless board don't go to the market to find replacements.
3) Can't maintain the budget, accept their fate is to slide downwards (like case 1. but less rapid).

But none of the above is true of Chelsea football club in 2023.
So what ?

I can't accept it is entirely the fault of either Thomas Tuchel, or Graham Potter, or even Frank Lampard.
It is n't the fault of Poch either.
Certainly not to the extent of the total of disastrous results we 've had.

We have to look inside the team.
I don't like it we gave away a goal to Forest yesterday, same as I did n't like it against Southampton late last season.
But those used to be acceptable casualties in battle.
More often than not we would easily come back.

It looks like we have nothing up front and Jackson is not the wonder medicine.
May prove useful but he is not the wonder drug.
For Mudryk I have already stated my case (should be allowed to stay under brexit rules, profession pizza).
Nkunku was a Bundesliga star. But he's currently out.
It was Olivier Giroud the last one who could pull things out of the fire. After him nothing.
Yesterday's attack formation was a 100% Potter team.

 

 

 

Edited September 3, 2023 by cosmicway

[Thor 2,745]

3 hours ago, TheHulk said:

A shame Disasi escaped.

Silva has been a lethargy on the teams intensity. He really sets the tempo with his play, but most aren't commenting on it. I'm starting to see it more and more on twitter - which leads me to believe I'm not crazy. 

Our team plays slow, and a large part of it is Silva. It isn't all him, but I see it a lot as far as building from the back. This team is young, and wants to run. Just like Ibra crutched Man United, despite being individually good, he is slowing us down as a team. 

[Gundalf 806]

1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

Check that stat for players instead of clubs. 

1.Jackson 6

2. Watkins 4

Everyone else 3 or less. 

Yeah, we can talk about systems, formation, set up all day long but truth is if we play the same system we have but with Haaland up front instead of Jackson we would be in the top4 rn. 

Football is about scoring goals. We are creating enough to score goals, but we fail to do so.

Edited September 3, 2023 by Gundalf

[cdubzcfc86 2]

9 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Or is it ?
Certainly we are -again- in a tight spot but there is more to it.

Ask first what makes teams fall from grace ?
There are three possible causes:

1) Sellout, all the good players are sold.
This happens with teams-firework. They shine for one-two years, can't stand the economic pressure, prefer to sell out.
2) Aging players and a clueless board don't go to the market to find replacements.
3) Can't maintain the budget, accept their fate is to slide downwards (like case 1. but less rapid).

But none of the above is true of Chelsea football club in 2023.
So what ?

I can't accept it is entirely the fault of either Thomas Tuchel, or Graham Potter, or even Frank Lampard.
It is n't the fault of Poch either.
Certainly not to the extent of the total of disastrous results we 've had.

We have to look inside the team.
I don't like it we gave away a goal to Forest yesterday, same as I did n't like it against Southampton late last season.
But those used to be acceptable casualties in battle.
More often than not we would easily come back.

It looks like we have nothing up front and Jackson is not the wonder medicine.
May prove useful but he is not the wonder drug.
For Mudryk I have already stated my case (should be allowed to stay under brexit rules, profession pizza).
Nkunku was a Bundesliga star. But he's currently out.
It was Olivier Giroud the last one who could pull things out of the fire. After him nothing.
Yesterday's attack formation was a 100% Potter team.

 

 

 

mate look at all the comments and reaction going on !! its so entitled and spoilt its unbelievable.. football is football and the club has a culture atm of - buying, hiring and firing. it has infected the team, the management and the fans to an unfortunate, and potentially detrimental extent.. other teams play as teams because they have been created in ways where they create a team environment.. the managers have had to build teams, and the players around each other over time. this is inevitably inclusive of players of all levels of experience and skill which is what creates a team environment.. Jose had a talent where he could create this quickly, but still using existing club players, existing experience and new signings forming a balanced team/squad. were not doing this atm.. tuchel, frank, potter and potch have all done the same thing - are we really saying theyre all wrong ??

its either that or those managers havent been picking the teams and someone else has !!

we have none of this atm    

[Thor 2,745]

34 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

Yeah, we can talk about systems, formation, set up all day long but truth is if we play the same system we have but with Haaland up front instead of Jackson we would be in the top4 rn. 

Football is about scoring goals. We are creating enough to score goals, but we fail to do so.

No we wouldn't. 

We'd be saying what is wrong with Haaland. He is too young. We have overspent again. 

We haven't just made 10 mistakes buying all these players. We haven't. These players were great before they came here. It is a confidence and inexperience issue. Not just that a tactical disaster. 

Silva needs to be an option off the bench. He sets a tone as a leader, and he really does slow us down a lot. Chilly needs to never play LW again. Conor should never play that role again. We're trying to make shit fit that doesn't. 

[coolhead23 1,147]

I believe we will have such moments one too many times this season ... we need to remember that there has been a complete restructuring of Chelsea Football Club, i find it hard to recognize it from the near past. 

Players/Owners/Managers/Culture/Vision: everything! Tough times ahead!