The Next Manager?

[Tomo 21,741]

10 minutes ago, Hashishi said:

I don't really care how he did at ManUre because they are not well run, and spuds because they are stingy. Roma fans are saying getting top 4, with players like Cristante and solbakken, is his greatest achievement. And he won UCL with Inter. It just proves that Mourinho can do a better job at a 'middling' club as well as a big club than Potter.

I wouldn't say Inter at that point was a middling job, far from it. His stock was at his absolute highest then so no chance he was accepting it if it was.

I can accept the wish for Potter to leave I'm getting to that side myself but he absolutely has to be replaced with a manager with a track record with what we need right now.

[Fernando 6,537]

If we want good fubtol Bielsa would be it. 

But he is also a problem with board and not to mention teams tend to fade after a season or two because he is high demanding. 

[Pizy 18,553]

I can picture exactly how a Mou re-re-union would go. He’d come in and we’d see immediate improvement. In his first full season back next to around we’ll also do pretty well and comfortably finish in the top 4. But after that the friction will start between certain players that he doesn’t fancy, things will start getting toxic, and it’ll deteriorate like it always does with him.

That some people are intrigued by the prospect after the disaster that Potter has been is understandable, but for a club that has just spent hundreds of millions on young players and attacking “flair” players at that, turning to Mourinho to get the best out of them makes little sense.

[milka 3,377]

Unless we don't get relegated to the Championship this season, Potter is unlikely to be sacked before the end of the season.

[Fernando 6,537]

I don't think nothing will happen this season. But owner will start to freak out next season if we do more of the same.

 

[cfccrost 23]

7 hours ago, milka said:

Unless we don't get relegated to the Championship this season, Potter is unlikely to be sacked before the end of the season.

Will Potter be sacked if we finish below Brightons last year position in the table?

As i remember we were 5th when TT was fired?

[manpe 10,861]

Enrique or Pochettino. We should get one of them now.

[TheHulk 2,051]

 

[Vesper 29,475]

7 hours ago, TheHulk said:

 

Tottenham set sights on Luciano Spalletti as new manager

https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/tottenham-hotspur-news/luciano-spalletti-manager-news-rumours-updates/

[Vesper 29,475]

On 21/02/2023 at 16:04, Hashishi said:

I don't really care how he did at ManUre because they are not well run, and spuds because they are stingy. Roma fans are saying getting top 4, with players like Cristante and solbakken, is his greatest achievement. And he won UCL with Inter. It just proves that Mourinho can do a better job at a 'middling' club as well as a big club than Potter.

Inter in 2000s was hardly a middling club

Serie A titles in the 2000s : 2005–06, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09, 2009–10, Runners-up in the 2000s : 2002–03, 2010–11

Coppa Italia titles in the 2000s :  2004–05, 2005–06, 2009–10, 2010–11, Runners-up in the 2000s : 1999–2000, 2006–07, 2007–08

Supercoppa Italian titles in the 2000s : 2005, 2006, 2008, 2010, Runners-up in the 2000s : 2000, 2007, 2009, 2011

UEFA Champions League   2009–10

FIFA Club World Cup        2010

Inter has never been relegated from the top flight of Italian football in its entire existence. It is the sole club to have competed in Serie A and its predecessors in every season since its debut in 1909.

[Reddish-Blue 2,429]

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

Inter in 2000s was hardly a middling club

Serie A titles in the 2000s : 2005–06, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09, 2009–10, Runners-up in the 2000s : 2002–03, 2010–11

Coppa Italia titles in the 2000s :  2004–05, 2005–06, 2009–10, 2010–11, Runners-up in the 2000s : 1999–2000, 2006–07, 2007–08

Supercoppa Italian titles in the 2000s : 2005, 2006, 2008, 2010, Runners-up in the 2000s : 2000, 2007, 2009, 2011

UEFA Champions League   2009–10

FIFA Club World Cup        2010

Inter has never been relegated from the top flight of Italian football in its entire existence. It is the sole club to have competed in Serie A and its predecessors in every season since its debut in 1909.

They were dominant domestically but in Europe, they were effectively average, kept getting knocked out at the round of 16 stage before Mourinho came along and got that older team to click on the big stage. 

Mourinho may not be a long term manager anywhere but he builds a winning mentality in the playing group and generally, gets them over the line on the big occasion.  It's just a shame that his stint at Real Madrid and the Spanish media made him super bitter about everything as the Mourinho at Chelsea (first time) and Inter Milan was amazing to watch. 

[Vesper 29,475]

1 hour ago, Reddish-Blue said:

They were dominant domestically but in Europe, they were effectively average, kept getting knocked out at the round of 16 stage before Mourinho came along and got that older team to click on the big stage. 

Mourinho may not be a long term manager anywhere but he builds a winning mentality in the playing group and generally, gets them over the line on the big occasion.  It's just a shame that his stint at Real Madrid and the Spanish media made him super bitter about everything as the Mourinho at Chelsea (first time) and Inter Milan was amazing to watch. 

my issue was with them being labelled as middling, which they clearly were not

middling doesn't mean every club who struggles to win the CL

Over the past 25 years the only teams to have won the CL were

Chels

Real

Barca

Bayern

AC Milan

Manure

Pool

Inter

Porto (Mou again)

 all are multiple EC/CL winners

Juve lost FIVE finals in that span wone none (they have only 2 wins against 7 losses in CL finals) but they are hardly a middling club.

The only other multiple winners are 3 clubs whose European glory days have went poof long ago (Ajax, Benfica, both of whom still are great domestically, and then the long shit Forest) Forest IS a middling club, the first one listed here.

Citeh and PSG have never won it, but they are hardly middling clubs now (both have only been truly dominant for around the last 10 years though).

Middling clubs for me are clubs that never win (or almost never) any sort of trophies, domestic or otherwise, but also do not get relegated and occasionally finish in the top 10. Middle of the table clubs, to be more precise.

 

[Hashishi 148]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

Middling clubs for me are clubs that never win (or almost never) any sort of trophies, domestic or otherwise, but also do not get relegated and occasionally finish in the top 10. Middle of the table clubs, to be more precise.

 

So mainly Tottenham then ;). My point in my original comment was Roma is currently a middling club and Mourinho is doing a better job than Potter at a big club.

[lucio 5,418]

28 minutes ago, Hashishi said:

So mainly Tottenham then ;). My point in my original comment was Roma is currently a middling club and Mourinho is doing a better job than Potter at a big club.

He's doing ok nothing special. They are lucky juventus got punished

[lucio 5,418]

I'd be interested in whoever has coached Atalanta these past seasons 

Edit - some old guy , too late 

Edited February 26, 2023 by lucio

[Hashishi 148]

17 minutes ago, lucio said:

He's doing ok nothing special. They are lucky juventus got punished

Juve would've been on 47 with Inter so I see your point. Roma's squad is barebones compared to the Top 4 in Italy so the fact he's gotten them competing for top 4 is a big achievement. He would've still been above AC Milan in 4th if not for the points deduction.

[Porthos 35]

[NikkiCFC 8,126]

He wants to come to Chelsea.