The Next Manager?

[Pizy 18,553]

  On 19/02/2023 at 19:26, Vesper said:

Zidane doesn't speak English, and has said so many times he has zero desire to ever learn it and even less desire to live in England and manage a football team here.

He is not a viable option, regardless of what you think of him as a manager. 

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Wouldn’t want him even if he fancied it.

No more taking chances on managers who have huge question marks. It’s been a disaster with 2 of our last 3 managers in Frank and now Potter. I think Zidane’s managerial style of standing like a statue and not saying a thing for entire matches would be a disaster here.

We need a world class COACH with these players. Sadly there isn’t one out of work currently other than the one we sacked this season.

[Laylabelle 9,464]

  On 19/02/2023 at 19:35, Pizy said:

Wouldn’t want him even if he fancied it.

No more taking chances on managers who have huge question marks. It’s been a disaster with 2 of our last 3 managers in Frank and now Potter. I think Zidane’s managerial style of standing like a statue and not saying a thing for entire matches would be a disaster here.

We need a world class COACH with these players. Sadly there isn’t one out of work currently other than the one we sacked this season.

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I miss Tuchels face...

I know everyone has different personalities but clearly we need someone who can get this lot going..kinda like children..

[Vegetable 830]

  On 19/02/2023 at 19:32, Vesper said:

So Conte back here for round 2?

Lolololol

I jest.

 

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I was rather leaning towards crossing Poch out of the lists 🤪

[Hashishi 148]

The problem is there are no world class managers availible atm. If carlo Ancelotti was free tomorrow I would be ecstatic but it's a shame that the most appealing option is Mou 3.0. I don't want Poch or Enrique anywhere near this club. They are specialists in failure and would've done something at Spurs/PSG and Barca/Spain if they were any good. I don't want negative football like Conte and Mourinho. I'm seriously afraid our best option is sticking with Potter at least till summer.

[Pizy 18,553]

I’d have taken Poch a couple of years ago without much question. But I wonder how easy he’ll find it to jump back into the PL after a long break from management. Especially into the toughest job in England pretty much. 

Enrique would be pretty intriguing but questions over how comfortable he’d be outside of Spanish football again are there. 

I can absolutely picture Mourinho lobbying hard behind the scenes to come back. We’ve now got a squad full of what you would’ve traditionally classified as “Mourinho players” in a bunch of positions that he’d probably love to work with. But we’d be absolutely insane to welcome that circus again and risk him imploding once more.

Why can’t we just bring Tuchel back, damnit?! 😭😭😭

[lucio 5,418]

  On 20/02/2023 at 00:03, Hashishi said:

The problem is there are no world class managers availible atm. If carlo Ancelotti was free tomorrow I would be ecstatic but it's a shame that the most appealing option is Mou 3.0. I don't want Poch or Enrique anywhere near this club. They are specialists in failure and would've done something at Spurs/PSG and Barca/Spain if they were any good. I don't want negative football like Conte and Mourinho. I'm seriously afraid our best option is sticking with Potter at least till summer.

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Are you saying he did nothing at barca??

[Mário César 1,077]

poch or conte would be the obvious chooise 

[Vesper 29,486]

  On 19/02/2023 at 19:35, Pizy said:

Wouldn’t want him even if he fancied it.

No more taking chances on managers who have huge question marks. It’s been a disaster with 2 of our last 3 managers in Frank and now Potter. I think Zidane’s managerial style of standing like a statue and not saying a thing for entire matches would be a disaster here.

We need a world class COACH with these players. Sadly there isn’t one out of work currently other than the one we sacked this season.

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Tuchel himself was in a disastrous spiral as shown by multiple people here

he is not the answer either

here are 5 cold hard #facts

1 Without Thiago we are pretty well fucked at CB, certainly not, Badi looks to be a good prospect, and HOPEFULLY Fofana can fully recover, but we are fucked there atm

2. Without Kante, and yes, even with Enzo, we are well fucked at DMF/CMF

3. We have not had (hopefully Mudryk can eventually become one) a great winger since prime Eden

4. we are super fucked when either or (even worse) both Reece and/or Chilly are out at fullback, Malo Gisto had best come good, and Chilwell stay healthy as CuCu is SHIT, and Azpi, at this point, makes CuCu look like prime Cafu

5.  We are FUCKED beyond all belief at CF, have been since the Diego Costa salad days

[Mhsc 1,002]

Some strong negativity around here about Poch but I would take him over Potter, he at least would get us playing an aggressive / effective press which atm is sorely lacking, although I'd prefer Luis Enrique - think he'd be a great manager for a player like Enzo.

Think Zidane would 1. not come and 2. be a big gamble, despite his record.

[lucio 5,418]

  On 20/02/2023 at 09:45, Mhsc said:

Some strong negativity around here about Poch but I would take him over Potter, he at least would get us playing an aggressive / effective press which atm is sorely lacking, although I'd prefer Luis Enrique - think he'd be a great manager for a player like Enzo.

Think Zidane would 1. not come and 2. be a big gamble, despite his record.

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People have been asking for someone who "builds" does Poch fit that criteria? 

[cosmicway 1,333]

Is Potter still manager (20/02/2023 09:49 GMT) ?

[Vegetable 830]

  On 20/02/2023 at 09:49, lucio said:

People have been asking for someone who "builds"

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Yeah, but what "building" means at this level in particular? 

The "building" have sense in a club that is in third division and going to the top. When club is already top, the "build" is pretty much about mentality and identity to continue winning, not to start winning. We are not quite the Newcastle or early City case. Maybe somewhat close to Pool, but still starting from bit different point. The Arsenal comparisons, don't even get me started, that's insulting.

The closest we were to "building" at this level as I see it we were with Mourinho and Tuchel. Elite winners, that identify with the club, coming to conquer even more.

What was Potter with his impressive 31% win rate in mid-table club supposed to do in a club that had just won everything I still don't know. You don't send a fella to Real or PSG to tech those guys how to pass. Such clubs need leader inspire to thrive, not to learn the basics. You have coaching staff for this, preferably of top specialists. Meanwhile that whole spiel sounds like Boehly took the CL winning club and now is trying to repeat the Leicester's from zero to hero story with it. But we are far from zero, I'd dare to say.

Would be ridiculous to get some travelling salesmen or long-time Tottenham manager to build the Chelsea identity - that smells of what PSG is doing.

A lot of people said it already, but seriously, given who is available, sacking Tuchel was not shooting the club in the foot, it was cutting the legs away on waist-level.

[Special Juan 27,629]

Looks like Potter ain't going anwhere for the time being.

[Hamilton 2,120]

What’s this about special board meeting today? George Benson saying this..

[Gundalf 804]

  On 20/02/2023 at 10:15, Vegetable said:

Yeah, but what "building" means at this level in particular? 

The "building" have sense in a club that is in third division and going to the top. 

The closest we were to "building" at this level as I see it we were with Mourinho and Tuchel.

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Building means to implement a playing style, a system that can last longer than just 3 years before it needs to be changed, having the same manager for more than 6 years.

Continuity is key to success in modern football. Hire and fire on the other hand turned out to be outdated. 

And yes, there was a slow but steady decline in the last few years, we literally have become Wengers Arsenal. When was the last time we were really challenging for the title over the season? We transformed from a club that is challenging for the title every year to challenging for Top4 every year, even with Tuchel. We became a P4 team. 

Managers like Mou or Conte just cant build bc after 2-3 years, they completely lose the dressing room with their training methods and approach. Same goes for Tuchel, who is also a short term manager wherever he has been. And it was clear at the end of last season and start of this season that he has clearly lost the dressing room again. 

What a club needs in modern football is stability, constant changes give u setbacks all the time preventing the club to reach for the highest goals. 

That is why I dont want a caretaker, if Potter is replaced, but someone who can build a legacy.  

Edited February 20, 2023 by Gundalf

[OneMoSalah 8,848]

  On 20/02/2023 at 00:31, lucio said:

Are you saying he did nothing at barca??

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He only had the greatest front 3 in modern day footballing history though who scored something like 300 goals in 3 seasons between then. And even then, he left after the third season for whatever reasons when performances were very very bad. 

Plus lets not forget his transfer record was abysmal at Barcelona, he is credited with signing the likes of Turan, Alcacer, Andre Gomes, Dennis Suarez, Jeremy Mathieu, Aleix Vidal, Lucas Digne. Really, Luis Suarez and Rakitic were really the only successful buys he made.

His Spain team were also one of the most boring sides I’ve seen in forever. One game against Costa Rica who were awful wont change that.

Personally would let Atletico Madrid appoint him as is heavily being speculated. I know Potter is out of his depth but Enrique isnt the answer. Pochettino is more likely to fit the clubs strategy and I would expect him to do better here than the likes of Enrique or Zidane but still have doubts over how successful we would be with him. 

Edited February 20, 2023 by OneMoSalah

[MoroccanBlue 5,322]

  On 18/02/2023 at 19:39, ulsterchelsea said:

According to matt law the board are still behind Potter. Ffs

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No one should take this twat seriously anymore. Labeling Rice as a priority for years only for us to prefer Enzo. Saying we weren't interested in Mudryk only to do a complete Uturn when Ornstein reported it. 

He knows fuck all. I'm reading sources claiming the team is disinterested in Potter's meetings and training sessions. 

Edited February 20, 2023 by MoroccanBlue

[Blue Armour 4,376]

  On 20/02/2023 at 17:58, MoroccanBlue said:

No one should take this twat seriously anymore. Labeling Rice as a priority for years only for us to prefer Enzo. Saying we weren't interested in Mudryk only to do a complete Uturn when Ornstein reported it. 

He knows fuck all. I'm reading sources claiming the team is disinterested in Potter's meetings and training sessions. 

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I think Matt Law is no longer as well informed about Chelsea as he used to be.