The Next Manager?

[NikkiCFC 8,285]

6 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

 

Silva will be 38 at the start of the next season.

Also he will be much more exposed in back 4.

And with Kounde I would prefer 2nd CB to be taller. Would not be comfy with 178cm and 183cm pairing.

De Ligt is on the market it seems. Chalobah could be great even in this system I think. Silva will eventually lose starting spot but still will be important player.

I can also see why Chris is not sure about new contract. Once we go back to back 4 he may easily become 5th guy.

Chiesa ok.

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

14 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Chiesa ok.

Should be a priority along with Tchouaméni. I'm done with having one dimensional wingers. 

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

Might as well start speculating now for a bit, I don’t think it’ll be too long if results keep going this way. Who next then? 
 

Poch? Zidane? Bielsa? Someone else?

[DDA 9,924]

Luis Enrique..

Get him

 

[NikkiCFC 8,285]

Just now, DDA said:

Luis Enrique..

Get him

 

He's apparently gonna replace Simeone in Atletico in the summer. 

[Bren 41]

9 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Might as well start speculating now for a bit, I don’t think it’ll be too long if results keep going this way. Who next then? 
 

Poch? Zidane? Bielsa? Someone else?

Would this lot not turn their noses up at Bielsa? He hasn't really won anything of note after all.

I really wouldn't like Poch here. The 3rd in a 2 horse race guy, and the 2nd in a 1 team league guy. Would not be optimistic at all with him in charge.

What about the Germany coach? Didn't do great at the World Cup but did well with Bayern which means he could probably command the respect of these players. 

It's slim pickings right now I fear.

[Pizy 18,846]

I honestly don’t think anyone’s coming in and salvaging this season. We’re too far gone. Too many players at rock bottom, worst in their career form. Too many hugely important injuries. Too many players simply not good enough for Chelsea.

I have nothing against Potter, really. This isn’t all down to a manager who is tactically stupid or naive. This is 85% down to these soft, mentally fragile players in my opinion. We have an entire squad full of guys who dropped off a cliff quality wise. All at the same time.

Really don’t see a way out of this during the season. We need to just weather the season, take our lumps, and avoid getting fucking relegated.

[Superblue 6,372]

Whatever people think, sacking Potter solves little at this moment in time. This was a group of players showing serious decline for months under Tuchel, with many showing the same problems of inconsistency and poor application under Lampard and Sarri before him. A new manager might get a bounce for a few games and then what? Will we see some of these players get a new contract or a fourth or fifth chance yet again. 

We're suffering from years of poor signings and planning, flip flopping from one manager with a certain style to another. It has an initial boost and then as soon as things get hard it's back to square one. 

We'll have the same problem this year as we did last in the league. We're not competing for anything so the right mentality won't be there for it.

Matt Law said we're desperate for leaders and he's bang on the money. It's not just about a Terry who will drag you into the trenches but we need players willing to lead the team with the mettle to get on the ball and show personality and courage to play. The freshness with how Felix played in the first half tonight just highlighted how stale this group of players have become. No one wants to assume responsibility with the exception of Thiago Silva who cannot impact the attack and is playing with car crash after car crash around him in the defence.

If we were in a much safer position I'd want Potter to start cutting some players out of the squad and playing more of the younger players but we're in a spot where we're a couple more results away from being dragged into a relegation battle this season. We're not 'too good', and if it were to happen I'd seriously worry that the majority of this squad wouldn't have the stomach and pride to fight their way out of it.

[didi007 69]

11 minutes ago, Superblue said:

Whatever people think, sacking Potter solves little at this moment in time. This was a group of players showing serious decline for months under Tuchel, with many showing the same problems of inconsistency and poor application under Lampard and Sarri before him. A new manager might get a bounce for a few games and then what? Will we see some of these players get a new contract or a fourth or fifth chance yet again. 

We're suffering from years of poor signings and planning, flip flopping from one manager with a certain style to another. It has an initial boost and then as soon as things get hard it's back to square one. 

We'll have the same problem this year as we did last in the league. We're not competing for anything so the right mentality won't be there for it.

Matt Law said we're desperate for leaders and he's bang on the money. It's not just about a Terry who will drag you into the trenches but we need players willing to lead the team with the mettle to get on the ball and show personality and courage to play. The freshness with how Felix played in the first half tonight just highlighted how stale this group of players have become. No one wants to assume responsibility with the exception of Thiago Silva who cannot impact the attack and is playing with car crash after car crash around him in the defence.

If we were in a much safer position I'd want Potter to start cutting some players out of the squad and playing more of the younger players but we're in a spot where we're a couple more results away from being dragged into a relegation battle this season. We're not 'too good', and if it were to happen I'd seriously worry that the majority of this squad wouldn't have the stomach and pride to fight their way out of it.

mourihno will kick the s... out of these softies. They need tough love!!!!

[Laylabelle 9,534]

The teams above us have got better and Man U and co would have to lose a few games and us not for us to even catch up...and Spurs shitty as they are still far ahead. I know it may help but we have nothing to win or gain this season so be intresting to see what they do now. If anything 

Edited January 12, 2023 by Laylabelle

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

Simeone leaving Atletico in the summer apparently - whats the bet we get him.

[Vegetable 830]

15 minutes ago, Superblue said:

Whatever people think, sacking Potter solves little at this moment in time. This was a group of players showing serious decline for months under Tuchel, with many showing the same problems of inconsistency and poor application under Lampard and Sarri before him. A new manager might get a bounce for a few games and then what? Will we see some of these players get a new contract or a fourth or fifth chance yet again. 

We're suffering from years of poor signings and planning, flip flopping from one manager with a certain style to another. It has an initial boost and then as soon as things get hard it's back to square one. 

We'll have the same problem this year as we did last in the league. We're not competing for anything so the right mentality won't be there for it.

Matt Law said we're desperate for leaders and he's bang on the money. It's not just about a Terry who will drag you into the trenches but we need players willing to lead the team with the mettle to get on the ball and show personality and courage to play. The freshness with how Felix played in the first half tonight just highlighted how stale this group of players have become. No one wants to assume responsibility with the exception of Thiago Silva who cannot impact the attack and is playing with car crash after car crash around him in the defence.

If we were in a much safer position I'd want Potter to start cutting some players out of the squad and playing more of the younger players but we're in a spot where we're a couple more results away from being dragged into a relegation battle this season. We're not 'too good', and if it were to happen I'd seriously worry that the majority of this squad wouldn't have the stomach and pride to fight their way out of it.

I'd agree with anything except the Potter part - his arrival didn't cause even the usual bounce while and his presence is only making the things worse. The problems are real and persistent, but having zero confidence in man at the wheel is emphasizing them even more. If we are striving for leaders, the manager should be the first of them while Potter doesn't seem to have a personality for this.

Also, we are constantly talking about stale group of players, but we actually did replace a large part of squad sice Conte… Azpi and Kante are actually most senior players we have, rest is sub 4 or 5 years here of what I recall. We need Mourinho-calibre of character to make this bunch a team or send them out into space. Also, we need very smart transfer business and it's not something that seems to be going on right now.

Edited January 12, 2023 by Vegetable

[Superblue 6,372]

Just now, didi007 said:

mourihno will kick the s... out of these softies. They need tough love!!!!

You don't think Tuchel would be demanding and showing a similar way of managing them? This is an extension on the last 9 months under Tuchel. 

This is now a full 12 months of crap football, mid table at best form across 2 different managers. At some point when are these players going to take a bit of responsibility?

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

For the last 20 years if a manager isnt cutting it within a short time its sack time.

If the ownership decide Potter is long term, paralleled with mid table mediocrity, I can see a lot of our fans demonstrating worse than United did about the Glazers.

[Superblue 6,372]

4 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

I'd agree with anything except the Potter part - his arrival didn't cause even the usual bounce while and his presence is only making the things worse. The problems are real and persistent, but having zero confidence in man at the wheel is emphasizing them even more. If we are striving for leaders, the manager should be the first of them while Potter doesn't seem to have a personality for this.

Also, we are constantly talking about stale group of players, but we actually did replace a large part of squad sice Conte… Azpi and Kante are actually most senior players we have, rest is sub 4 or 5 years here of what I recall. We need Mourinho-calibre of character to make this bunch a team or send them out into space. Also, we need very smart transfer business and it's not something that seems to be going on right now.

Didn't we go something like 8 or 10 games unbeaten under Potter across the league and Champions League?

And on point 2 it just highlights the shambles of our transfer activity in the last few years. Especially when our squad has been either beefed up or some solid funds raised from academy players. Our inability to build around that makes it even worse.

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

7 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

I'd agree with anything except the Potter part - his arrival didn't cause even the usual bounce while and his presence is only making the things worse. The problems are real and persistent, but having zero confidence in man at the wheel is emphasizing them even more. If we are striving for leaders, the manager should be the first of them while Potter doesn't seem to have a personality for this.

Also, we are constantly talking about stale group of players, but we actually did replace a large part of squad sice Conte… Azpi and Kante are actually most senior players we have, rest is sub 4 or 5 years here of what I recall. We need Mourinho-calibre of character to make this bunch a team or send them out into space. 

100%

It doesnt matter what walk of life your from or sport or business etc your in, leaders are developed and if the guy at the top of the food chain doesn’t inspire/lead well then its ultimately not going to work.

Is it any wonder why guys like Azpi, Jorginho, Kante etc all of a sudden developed huge leadership qualities under Conte and Tuchel? No, its not, because both managers had huge personalities and were leaders themselves. They clearly had an influence. I don’t see Potter having a positive influence on anybody.

3 minutes ago, Superblue said:

You don't think Tuchel would be demanding and showing a similar way of managing them? This is an extension on the last 9 months under Tuchel. 

This is now a full 12 months of crap football, mid table at best form across 2 different managers. At some point when are these players going to take a bit of responsibility?

 

The football under Tuchel wasn't quite as bad compared to this. It wasn’t great, but it wasn’t necessarily this bad. For me, its only because Potter played good football at Brighton that it always seems to be used as the stick to beat TT’s difficult spell here with. 

Edited January 12, 2023 by OneMoSalah

[Vesper 30,079]

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[HEREIAM 83]

If Potter is sacked after Palace sunday, then i think Enrique or even JM should be given the job, with maybe Terry as assistant