AK-3001 286 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 43 minutes ago, dreamcfc said: I'm surprised it's not been mentioned a lot more but Conte said in his interview after the FA cup that he wanted to play better but felt he had to play this way against top opposition to win, that tells me he didn't have full confidence in the players so had to adapt, he said that when we opened up against good teams, we ended up losing the games. He obviously wasn't being backed in the market, this is where it all started going sour. If you want Alex Sandro and end up with Zappacosta for example, this is what happens. I hear you, but not for once do I believe that our club needs to spend 200 million over the top to avoid results like these. Newcastle 3-0 Chelsea Chelsea 0-3 Bournemouth Watford 4-1 Chelsea I'm not even counting the upsets against Crystal Palace, West Ham etc. Conte never took the responsibility and always looked for excuses. It wasn't the Conte we all fell in love with, that's for sure. Sideshow Luiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 I do actually think if Conte hadn't been so volatile this season, and had concentrated on the team the board would have backed him for another season despite missing out on top 4. I've seen changes in this during the reigns of Mourinho and Conte which suggests they are much less willing to pull the trigger on a manager and will only do so as a final necessity. This is why I also believe if Sarri does come here and he backs up what he has said previously (doesn't want to get involved in transfers, just wants to concentrate on coaching and developing what he is given) he will be given time by the club to put his style and tactics across. Belgiannutt, Duppy Conqueror and manpe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Dimitr said: According to @DiMarzio, Monday is the deadline for Sarri to Chelsea. If no agreement had been reached until Monday, then Conte will continue. No agreement has been reached for now. ADL is playing hardball maybe we are finished.. Getting tired of your fake rumours. THere's nothing like this that DIMarzio has posted, I don't know where you see this. Also, we're finished? These posts are getting very irritating, stop supporting then or keep shut about it. Don't spread bullshit on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 50 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: Conte already made a comment at the end of last season saying the board know what he is and he won't be changing anything. The tactics got massively found out last season and the only change was a 3-5-2 which made things even worse in my opinion as a lot of the success last season was based on the speed of attack we had with three forward players given licence to do so. You are right on the face of things it is a mess. The optimist in me still hopes and believes that the club will make things right and get what's needed done. Although I'd be lying if I didn't say that optimism has definitely eroded somewhat in the last couple of days. Don't you think Conte would have been sacked already if he wasn't our fall back option for Sarri? I don't know if they'll get Blanc now. Although I'm totally expecting Sarri to still be in charge soon enough. But this is getting frustrating, even for the most patient fans out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: I do actually think if Conte hadn't been so volatile this season, and had concentrated on the team the board would have backed him for another season despite missing out on top 4. I've seen changes in this during the reigns of Mourinho and Conte which suggests they are much less willing to pull the trigger on a manager and will only do so as a final necessity. This is why I also believe if Sarri does come here and he backs up what he has said previously (doesn't want to get involved in transfers, just wants to concentrate on coaching and developing what he is given) he will be given time by the club to put his style and tactics across. If Conte focused mainly on the training pitch we would have comfortably made top four. Failure to mount any form of title defense is on the board, failure to get top four is on Conte. communicate, Belgiannutt and Superblue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamcfc 182 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, AK-3001 said: I hear you, but not for once do I believe that our club needs to spend 200 million over the top to avoid results like these. Newcastle 3-0 Chelsea Chelsea 0-3 Bournemouth Watford 4-1 Chelsea I'm not even counting the upsets against Crystal Palace, West Ham etc. Conte never took the responsibility and always looked for excuses. It wasn't the Conte we all fell in love with, that's for sure. 100% agree with you but I just wish we were judging a normal season, would this have happened with the fire Conte had in his first season? and where/why did that fire go? You saw him up and down the touchline, hyping up the fans etc, it just all disappeared after the transfer market it seems. I'm trying to see if from the clubs perspective as well and that we need to move forward, but for me at least, it's hard to see any of this as positive, if he's not in the clubs plans, he should be well gone after the FA Cup. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just now, dreamcfc said: 100% agree with you but I just wish we were judging a normal season, would this have happened with the fire Conte had in his first season? and where/why did that fire go? You saw him up and down the touchline, hyping up the fans etc, it just all disappeared after the transfer market it seems. I'm trying to see if from the clubs perspective as well and that we need to move forward, but for me at least, it's hard to see any of this as positive, if he's not in the clubs plans, he should be well gone after the FA Cup. Yeah, it was a collective failure from everyone. From the players to the manager to the Board. Everyone failed and there was no real shining light. Conte lost me personally and I can't bear seeing him here, although I think he's one of the best managers out there still. The 1-0 loss to Manchester City where we had 11 men behind the ball at 1-0 was very poor and I've never seen anything like that. We jsut accepted defeat cause Conte thought he needed to save Goal Difference, rather than go for a point at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamcfc 182 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, AK-3001 said: Yeah, it was a collective failure from everyone. From the players to the manager to the Board. Everyone failed and there was no real shining light. Conte lost me personally and I can't bear seeing him here, although I think he's one of the best managers out there still. The 1-0 loss to Manchester City where we had 11 men behind the ball at 1-0 was very poor and I've never seen anything like that. We jsut accepted defeat cause Conte thought he needed to save Goal Difference, rather than go for a point at the very least. Very true man but that's just it, First Season we had Pep Conte Season 2 we had Jose Conte That City game was terrible, but I think that was just his way of pointing things out to the board, it's probably unprofessional for a manager to do that but I suppose we will never know why so it's one of those. I do think though, if the board backed Pep Conte more he would have stayed, thats just my view, I always support the club over managers, but with this fiasco its difficult for me, its taking way too long. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just now, dreamcfc said: Very true man but that's just it, First Season we had Pep Conte Season 2 we had Jose Conte That City game was terrible, but I think that was just his way of pointing things out to the board, it's probably unprofessional for a manager to do that but I suppose we will never know why so it's one of those. I do think though, if the board backed Pep Conte more he would have stayed, thats just my view, I always support the club over managers, but with this fiasco its difficult for me, its taking way too long. Fair enough. It's really weird though that there are multiple reasons for our failure last season. You could actually blame the Board, the manager, the players and you won't be wrong anywhere in doing so. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitr 488 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 6 hours ago, AK-3001 said: Getting tired of your fake rumours. THere's nothing like this that DIMarzio has posted, I don't know where you see this. Also, we're finished? These posts are getting very irritating, stop supporting then or keep shut about it. Don't spread bullshit on here. Haha yes I am Indykalia and I spread fake rumours all day . This isn’t a fake rumor But ok if you believe that is done deal I don’t want to stop you dreaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just a reminder before people quote that Padulla fella saying sarri is flying into London today.... The "hot monday"bullshit was first reported by him on the 9th Of June. Nearly a month ago. He knows FUCK ALL...like the rest of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Unionjack, Costa19, Johnnyeye and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,509 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 the club is in shambles at the moment, no proper direction, the silence from the club is worrying, while others are going ahead with their business we remain still, how times have changed. El P. and Supermonkey92 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, Jason said: Its just complete lunacy. It hurts to see us like this. But what I find odd is that theres some that dont seem to feel any worry or fear for what is occurring. I am normally the eternal optimist but I gotta tell ya I'm shit scared. But I still have this speck of Blue that keeps giving me a dose of optimism telling me all that needs to happen to sort this shit out is Sari instated and the 4 or 5 players we have been continually linked with jump on board the good ship Chelsea and let the rats who dont want to be here fuck off and good riddance. Its the continual ifs, buts and maybes. If this comes out OK then we fuckin deserve something good to happen. Sideshow Luiz, Starman60, Costa19 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 41 minutes ago, Unionjack said: Btw what I find odd is that theres some that dont seem to feel any worry or fear for what is occurring. I just accepted the fact our board likes to do things at the last minute. One American expat wrote these about time management in Russia, you know the place both Marina and Roman are from. Issues and problems are solved under pressure and stress at the last-minute Planning is not rigorous If you want to manage your Russian team you better be a night owl. Often employees work late until 11 pm or 1 am (the direct consequence of dealing with things at the last-minute) Like I said before I start to get worried and sad if I don't see Sarri at Cobham Monday morning. I feel similarly about the transfers too. Iggy Doonican, ulsterchelsea and Johnnyeye 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitr 488 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Hahah ok enough is enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, Dimitr said: Hahah ok enough is enough Always sceptical but you know what...that could cause a big hold up if and it's a HUGE IF, we were trying to sign Sarri and jorginho as well ,as has been reported ,off loading some of our players to Napoli! That would take some amount of time to negotiate. Still not buying it but it would explain hold up xPetrCechx, Johnnyeye, Dimitr and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Zola's agent :'Zola is out of #Chelsea negotiations, never talked to Chelsea about role in Sarri’s technical staff I can only say that the whole situation is very complicated. I've been reading Sarri to Chelsea is a done deal but as far as I know nothing is happening soon’ #CFC From Calciomercato Kajo and Laylabelle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidur the Spider 4,515 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 The year is 2045 and Chelsea are 48 hours away from announcing Sarri as new manager. In other news: Kante is still outrunning whole teams. Starman60 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 This is becoming infuriating. If the club want Sarri, Jorginho, whoever else. Fucking pay the money to sack Conte and get him in. Sign the players. This is embarrassing. Absolutely terrible. A ball hasn't been kicked and we are already potentially a laughing stock purely on a managerial pursuit that may not even happen yet and will end up with a coach who either is not wanted here or doesn't want to be here 100%. If that was Liverpool or United or City, we'd find it hilarious. If Conte stayed and he was as motivated as the first year I'd be happy enough, but if he stays and doesn't or the players he has annoyed don't respond again, we are fucked. Mufassir08 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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