The Next Manager?

[Superblue 6,370]

20 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

I'm sorry but if you think there's no outstanding candidate and yet Allegri's CV is far more impressive than Lamps then your taking the piss. A transfer ban with an experienced manager against a one season in the championship manager I know who I'd chose. I don't watch foreign football and apparently Allegri plays industrial football so what I'm afraid that's Chelsea raison d' etre like it or not.

You say he might only last a season or two so you've given a long post and yet seemingly you don't have much confidence in Lamps either. As for playing young players almost for the sake of it is extremely dodgy. If the transfer ban sticks play the old heads for a season we're easily good enough for top four in my opinion Spurs, Arsenal, Man United aren't great.

How can you rebuild a club with a transfer ban you can't so how you think giving Lamps the job is a step forward is beyond me.

I haven't said that Allegri's CV isn't impressive but I wouldn't view him currently as an outstanding candidate. One of his biggest positives reading articles is his man management in much the same way as Ancelotti, but he doesn't speak a word of English. His tactics as you said are much more of the 'industrial' nature but is this club just going to keep flip-flopping between styles and tactics season after season or are we actually going to devise a much longer term plan and strategy which may mean taking a step or two back to move forward.

I don't believe we should play the young players for the sake of it, they have to be good enough. The problem has always been that there is regularly a new manager in. This gives a 'new slate' for players who haven't proved to be good enough for the club already and also these managers are always under pressure to be successful to keep their jobs and the easy, less risky option is to place trust in experienced players over younger players.

I read a while back that Conte was really impressed with RLC in training but couldn't risk playing him for the first team. Many people on this forum have been critical how long it's taken Sarri to bring CHO and RLC into the team on a regular basis this last season. If Conte had been able to trust RLC and started playing him in some games that first season he may have been more confident in his abilities and RLC himself may not have needed to go out on loan to Palace for football and to develop. The likely impact of this would have been the club not needing to waste £35m on Drinkwater and in turn that money could have been used to get better players in that transfer window (instead of Zappacosta and Bakayoko, etc).

It's a what if scenario but it's an example how failure of the club to get through academy players or young signings for small money has meant not just the first team but the entire squad has had to be brought through the transfer market and this is catching up with us now because of the market inflation and many more teams can compete with us in terms of financial resources. We spent a fortune on players in the summer of 2017 and then another £50-60m in January 2018 on multiple players and the only player to come out of that as a definite success is Rudiger. None of the rest of these players have managed to establish themselves even as first choice.

I would much rather see a transfer budget used on 2 or 3 players of the highest quality we can buy then it spread out over 6 or 7 players like two summers ago because fairly average players now are moving for £30m+. The amount of players we have on loan and through the academy means a rebuild can be started next season and this squad can be refreshed but it needs somebody willing to come in and do that. For me that equates to Lampard (and Jody Morris is a huge part of that too) being the person I'd be most confident would facilitate that.

[Henrique 9,133]

On 06/06/2019 at 2:24 PM, Special Juan said:

 

I'm still convinced the whole Lampard thing is 100% bullshit. 

[Iomie142 2]

Chelsea should look to replace Maurizio Sarri with former Juventus boss Massimiliano Allegri, pundit Shaka Hislop claims.

Article read here

Question is... Should we? 

[Strike 7,217]

Steve Holland should get the nod for me. Knows the academy, knows the club. Solid season or two under Steve with CHO, Reece, RLC, Tammy maybe even others like Mount promoted, and deliver Champions League football. 

Then the club can bring in Frank or any top manager who may become available  

[milka 3,346]

 

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

2 hours ago, milka said:

 

The Times there, right on the button as always.  It will be Lampard, though

[the wes 7,212]

 

Southgate rule out Steve Holland going to chelsea

https://www.goal.com/en/news/southgate-not-leaving-england-for-chelsea-or-to-take-any-job/d9x8j78okvbr11ogn2d2829eh

[nyikolajevics 2,573]

21 hours ago, milka said:

 

He better wins 2-3 titles in his first season or will be sacked.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

This time last year an ex Chelsea player Jokanovic gets Fulham promoted playing good football his name is mentioned about getting the Chelsea job but he was never a serious contender. Jokanovic was one of the worse players I've seen at Chelsea and that's saying something when you consider some of the players we had in the late 70's early 80's especially. He looked like and had the mobility of a lampost and the dribbling skill and passing range of a toddler.

A year later an ex Chelsea player scrapes Derby into the playoffs again playing good football but doesn't quite make it. Frank Lampard Chelsea legend serial trophy winner has over 100 England caps is now the favourite for the Chelsea job anyone notice the disparity ?.

[bigbluewillie 1,859]

LOL i love your assessment of Jokanovic as a player

Mind you your assessment all round seems bang on.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Lampard's reputation will be sullied after what will inevitably be a horrible season and I don't want that but realistically speaking Jody Morris is one of the most knowledgeable people out there in regards to the qualities of the players in our loan army so its a bit of a quandary.

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

36 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

Lampard's reputation will be sullied after what will inevitably be a horrible season and I don't want that but realistically speaking Jody Morris is one of the most knowledgeable people out there in regards to the qualities of the players in our loan army so its a bit of a quandary.

It won't tho! Who is genuinely going to think any less of Frankie if it doesn't work out for him? 

[Vesper 28,784]

7 hours ago, Iggy Doonican said:

the mobility of a lampost and the dribbling skill and passing range of a toddler.

lol, that could be Alonso too

[the wes 7,212]

According to reports Jorge Jesus  rejected Chelsea job 

http://sportwitness.co.uk/brazil-manager-rejected-chelsea-job-wanted-bigger-challenge/

[Vesper 28,784]

1 hour ago, the wes said:

According to reports Jorge Jesus  rejected Chelsea job 

http://sportwitness.co.uk/brazil-manager-rejected-chelsea-job-wanted-bigger-challenge/

the Portuguese James Woods with Manuel Pellegrini hair

 

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

22 minutes ago, Vesper said:

the Portuguese James Woods with Manuel Pellegrini hair

 

Looks like Woods has just been goosed by someone seems that restraining order against Sean Young hasn't worked . Pellegrini always looks like he's constantly remembering a childhood trauma like seeing his dog drown and is going to break down at any given moment.

[Superblue 6,370]

Allegri is favoured by quite a few people mainly due to experience/CV, and his track record of playing more 'industrial' football that Chelsea are better recognised for and to get the most out of an older, experienced group of players.

However if reverting back to type with regards to tactics, style, etc is the best way to approach this post Hazard, transfer ban stage then we might as well seriously consider bringing Mourinho back.

His CV is better than Allegri, is the master of that style of football and then can also speak English fluently (if one of Allegri's positives is his man management, being unable to speak English doesn't sound too promising) and also ticks boxes for experience managing in the Premier League and knows the club inside out (and still a few of the players).

I'm not endorsing Mourinho to return for a third stint but if we go back down that type of route then his track record and CV has to suggest he is the best option for that whether some want to admit it or not.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

3 hours ago, the wes said:

According to reports Jorge Jesus  rejected Chelsea job 

http://sportwitness.co.uk/brazil-manager-rejected-chelsea-job-wanted-bigger-challenge/

Lol