The Next Manager?

[!Hazard! 3,394]

https://www.voetbalzone.nl/doc.asp?uid=350733 Sorry article is in Dutch but apparently we are interested in Ajax manager Erik Ten Hag. 

I'd love to have him in here in case Sarri gets the sack but I'm afraid fanbase would turn on him after few months just like they have done with Sarri

[communicate 2,703]

10 hours ago, !Hazard! said:

https://www.voetbalzone.nl/doc.asp?uid=350733 Sorry article is in Dutch but apparently we are interested in Ajax manager Erik Ten Hag. 

I'd love to have him in here in case Sarri gets the sack but I'm afraid fanbase would turn on him after few months just like they have done with Sarri

Like you said, it is a bad move. Hiring another possession based manager will not help. Yes he can be better than Sarri but I can't see him to be so much better. 

For me it is simple either stick with Sarri for another season or just say this possession football is not our thing and back to mou/Conte football 

[Tomo 21,733]

1 hour ago, communicate said:

Like you said, it is a bad move. Hiring another possession based manager will not help. Yes he can be better than Sarri but I can't see him to be so much better. 

For me it is simple either stick with Sarri for another season or just say this possession football is not our thing and back to mou/Conte football 

Even if we sack Sarri it's absolutely vital we carry on with the possession based high pressing style. Not only is it more in tune with the modern day way, we committed nearly £140m on two players suited to that style already.

[Laylabelle 9,351]

11 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Even if we sack Sarri it's absolutely vital we carry on with the possession based high pressing style. Not only is it more in tune with the modern day way, we committed nearly £140m on two players suited to that style already.

And hopefully we'll learn to do something with all that possession. A lot of this season has been have most of the ball and still drop points. 

[Special Juan 27,424]

If we do not get CL by either EL or finishing 4th he will be sacked. If that is the case do not get Lampard.

[communicate 2,703]

4 hours ago, Tomo said:

Even if we sack Sarri it's absolutely vital we carry on with the possession based high pressing style. Not only is it more in tune with the modern day way, we committed nearly £140m on two players suited to that style already.

I am not sure where the 140 coming from? 

Jorginho for 40 and? 

For me, if we continue down this path with changing manager every year, it will slow down our transformation. Our fans who is spoiled by Abramovich will become restless again and will turn on whoever in charge really quick. 

[Atomiswave 6,072]

Chelsea has never been about possession to me.....thats not our DNA. Its doesnt mean we cant pull it off but its just not what Chels is about. We have always been best when playing fast direct footy. Im convinced if you give Sarii 300M to spend he will still fall short, just not flexable and way too ingrained with his master philosify......I woulndt mind Allegry or Simone, especially Simone, he himself said he loves the way we used to play aka under Conte. Theres a reason his best AM sides was similar to ours.

[communicate 2,703]

4 hours ago, Laylabelle said:

And hopefully we'll learn to do something with all that possession. A lot of this season has been have most of the ball and still drop points. 

We won't be free flow scoring team with this squad. There is no way any manager can turn Willian to 15 goals scorer or Higuain back to his old days 

[Atomiswave 6,072]

1 minute ago, communicate said:

I am not sure where the 140 coming from? 

Jorginho for 40 and? 

For me, if we continue down this path with changing manager every year, it will slow down our transformation. Our fans who is spoiled by Abramovich will become restless again and will turn on whoever in charge really quick. 

Of course some sort of logic is needed........but im sure if the fans base could see hunger and progress they would support the manager. This season has been anything but sadly. 

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10 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Of course some sort of logic is needed........but im sure if the fans base could see hunger and progress they would support the manager. This season has been anything but sadly. 

Not really. This team is not designed to play possession football. It was built by Conte and Mou to play low block football. No manager can transform this team into a possession based team without significant investment in time or players. I was afraid about this since the beginning. 

 

[Tomo 21,733]

48 minutes ago, communicate said:

I am not sure where the 140 coming from? 

Jorginho for 40 and? 

For me, if we continue down this path with changing manager every year, it will slow down our transformation. Our fans who is spoiled by Abramovich will become restless again and will turn on whoever in charge really quick. 

Kepa.

He is not the type of keeper for pragmatic tactics.

[Vesper 28,786]

57 minutes ago, communicate said:

I am not sure where the 140 coming from? 

Jorginho for 40 and? 

For me, if we continue down this path with changing manager every year, it will slow down our transformation. Our fans who is spoiled by Abramovich will become restless again and will turn on whoever in charge really quick. 

Jorginho was £57m, Pulisic £58m

£115m total

thats 

133 million euro

148m USD

so I do not see where they are getting £140m from

unless they mean Kepa and Jorginho, but that is still only £129m

[Vesper 28,786]

6 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Kepa.

He is not the type of keeper for pragmatic tactics.

Kepa and Jorginho cost £129m (72m and 57m)

[manpe 10,861]

41 minutes ago, communicate said:

Not really. This team is not designed to play possession football. It was built by Conte and Mou to play low block football. No manager can transform this team into a possession based team without significant investment in time or players. I was afraid about this since the beginning. 

 

Then why isn't the manager adapting to the circumstances?

[Clockwork 1,794]

7 hours ago, communicate said:

Like you said, it is a bad move. Hiring another possession based manager will not help. Yes he can be better than Sarri but I can't see him to be so much better. 

For me it is simple either stick with Sarri for another season or just say this possession football is not our thing and back to mou/Conte football 

No you don't have to, the issue with Sarri possession football it is it lacks the free flowing and situational movements. His style is rigid and mechanical. On the other hand most well known attacking football managers like Pep is the opposite. I recall KDB saying in his first year under Pep, they hardly stayed in one formation, they spent the majority of training moving from one formation to another. Key being giving the player freedom and use their intelligence, to recognize situations and exploit areas. 

Not saying Sarri style will never be successful, but i am very uneasy about its rigidness and the way it shackle some players. 

[Tomo 21,733]

33 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Kepa and Jorginho cost £129m (72m and 57m)

Yeah my bad I miscounted but at the same time I forgot Pulisic, who is another player more suited to a high energy proactive game (nicking the ball high up is his best attribute from what I've seen).

[communicate 2,703]

6 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

No you don't have to, the issue with Sarri possession football it is it lacks the free flowing and situational movements. His style is rigid and mechanical. On the other hand most well known attacking football managers like Pep is the opposite. I recall KDB saying in his first year under Pep, they hardly stayed in one formation, they spent the majority of training moving from one formation to another. Key being giving the player freedom and use their intelligence, to recognize situations and exploit areas. 

Not saying Sarri style will never be successful, but i am very uneasy about its rigidness and the way it shackle some players. 

Who did he shackle? Ruben, Jorginho, Kante?? 

It make 0 sense to give positional freedom to these player. Hazard is the only player in our team who has positional freedom and it make sense. 

 

[communicate 2,703]

43 minutes ago, manpe said:

Then why isn't the manager adapting to the circumstances?

Because basically in order to be successful with this team, he need to play low block and play mostly on the counter attack. 

What is the point of doing that when he is hired to bring his football to Chelsea. 

If we keep Conte this season and bring another striker, I am pretty sure he will do better than Sarri.