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2 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

 He is in the D.

I will admit it. Watching football for 25 years but this is the first time I see that half circle outside the box being ever mentioned and purpose explained. 

Never occurred to me there is a reason for its existence 🤣

Who knows, maybe in 25 years I learn what is circle in the middle of the pitch for 🤣

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3 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Who knows, maybe in 25 years I learn what is circle in the middle of the pitch for 🤣

I used to be a referee so you need only ask. 🙂

In that connection, I once met Sir Stanley Rous. Literally once. He ran football as head of fifa for over ten years, played, refereed at top level, was chairman of The FA, and single-handedly wrote the first modern version of the laws of Association football. (This was in the days when The FA was responsible for the laws of the game.) Rous lost the top job at fifa partly because the rest of the world was fed up with England trying to run the sport, and partly because he was a man of his era who saw nothing wrong with apartheid South Africa so he resisted attempts to isolate them from the international game.

Hint: The centre circle is also the metric equivalent of ten yards in radius. 🙂  

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7 hours ago, bigbluewillie said:

Right then why is the ball allowed to be outside the D at corners.

And it really fucking annoys me.

Aside from the fact that the old law, which required the ball to be fully within the quadrant, made taking the kick harder, it was incompatible with the way the laws treat other lines on the pitch.  A ball which is almost entirely outside the pitch, but which overhangs the outer edge of the touchline by even a millimetre, is deemed to be 'in' the field of play. A foul which occurs on the outer edge of a line marking out the penalty area would be penalised with the award of a penalty, not a free kick. If those lines are a part of the area they contain, then it follows that the arc which marks the edge of the corner quadrant should also be regarded as being 'in' that quadrant.

Hence the 'new' law deems that as long as some part of the ball overhangs some part of the corner quadrant's arc, the ball is 'in' the quadrant.

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5 hours ago, bigbluewillie said:

Right then why is the ball allowed to be outside the D at corners.

And it really fucking annoys me.

The one they seem to ignore constantly is when the keeper does a drop kick upfield. Invariably they are often a few feet out of the area as its booted

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5 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

The one they seem to ignore constantly is when the keeper does a drop kick upfield. Invariably they are often a few feet out of the area as its booted

Yeah! I was wondering about, so many times i've been screaming look at the fucking keeper well out of the penalty area, but now I find out that the powers that be have sanctioned it.

Sorry I know this is not the correct thread, but I just needed to get this off my chest😇

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2 hours ago, bigbluewillie said:

Yeah! I was wondering about, so many times i've been screaming look at the fucking keeper well out of the penalty area, but now I find out that the powers that be have sanctioned it.

Sorry I know this is not the correct thread, but I just needed to get this off my chest😇

I must be misunderstanding you here because I don't see why a keeper shouldn't be allowed to play the ball outside the penalty area. He has the same 'rights' as any other player. It's just that he has special rights when he in his own penalty area. When he's doing a drop kick from the edge of his penalty area, as long as he doesn't handle the ball outside the area, why can't he can drop it wherever he likes? 

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15 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I must be misunderstanding you here because I don't see why a keeper shouldn't be allowed to play the ball outside the penalty area. He has the same 'rights' as any other player. It's just that he has special rights when he in his own penalty area. When he's doing a drop kick from the edge of his penalty area, as long as he doesn't handle the ball outside the area, why can't he can drop it wherever he likes? 

Sorry OFAG yes, what I've seen is so many keepers taking the drop kick when handling the ball outside the area -seems to be a blind spot to officials, though it's more noticeable when watching on TV

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29 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I must be misunderstanding you here because I don't see why a keeper shouldn't be allowed to play the ball outside the penalty area. He has the same 'rights' as any other player. It's just that he has special rights when he in his own penalty area. When he's doing a drop kick from the edge of his penalty area, as long as he doesn't handle the ball outside the area, why can't he can drop it wherever he likes? 

Yes! but not when he's still holding the ball, as Fulham Broadway say's

I've seen so many keepers holding onto the ball on their run up to launching the kick and then encroaching they are hold the ball outside the penalty area so long as there is at least 1mm of the keepers back foot on a part of the white line...to me it's handball.

But you're going to tell me the law has changed and they're allowed to do it, this and every aspect that they have changed is ruining the game, not making it better.

I think i'd better desist on this subject, before I get pulled to order, may we can have a thread regarding the laws of the game.

 

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5 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Sorry OFAG yes, what I've seen is so many keepers taking the drop kick when handling the ball outside the area -seems to be a blind spot to officials, though it's more noticeable when watching on TV

 

5 hours ago, bigbluewillie said:

Yes! but not when he's still holding the ball, as Fulham Broadway say's

I've seen so many keepers holding onto the ball on their run up to launching the kick and then encroaching they are hold the ball outside the penalty area so long as there is at least 1mm of the keepers back foot on a part of the white line...to me it's handball.

But you're going to tell me the law has changed and they're allowed to do it, this and every aspect that they have changed is ruining the game, not making it better.

I think i'd better desist on this subject, before I get pulled to order, may we can have a thread regarding the laws of the game.

 

Ah, I get you. I can't say I've noticed that. Maybe officials have taken their eyes off this because keepers don't kick from hands anywhere near as often as they used to.

These days it should actually be easier for the linos to monitor this. In the old days they would jockey level with the front edge of the penalty area watching to see that keepers didn't carry the ball out of the area, then sprint hell for leather after the kick to get in line with the last defender who had pushed up towards halfway. Nowadays, the last defender is usually standing next to the goalkeeper. 🙂

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5 hours ago, bigbluewillie said:

Yes! but not when he's still holding the ball, as Fulham Broadway say's

I've seen so many keepers holding onto the ball on their run up to launching the kick and then encroaching they are hold the ball outside the penalty area so long as there is at least 1mm of the keepers back foot on a part of the white line...to me it's handball.

But you're going to tell me the law has changed and they're allowed to do it, this and every aspect that they have changed is ruining the game, not making it better.

I think i'd better desist on this subject, before I get pulled to order, may we can have a thread regarding the laws of the game.

 

It’s crazy keepers get away with handling outside the area almost every time. Even the blatantly obvious ones like Martinez in the 2020 FA cup final

It is never even checked. they could easily use the offside line technology for that esp when it’s preventing a goal. 
pretty sure the bvb goalie did Cary the ball outside the he box when he snatched it before Sterling but no one bat an eye. 

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On 09/03/2023 at 18:11, Strike said:

 

 

you do not seem to understand the basic rules of the game (ie. the penalty arc)

you can plainly see (Özcan is on the right) he is within 10 yards of the pen spot (as in the Dortmund player directly behind Kai) 

Özcan is INSIDE THE PEN ARC

VAR showed the replay from multiple angles during the game, and you could see he was within 10 yards

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both were inside the arc BEFORE Kai even touched the ball

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https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-14---the-penalty-kick

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CASE CLOSED

 

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