Graham Potter Thread

[Vegetable 830]

9 minutes ago, Jype said:

Tuchel still had Rüdiger playing at a high enough level and Potter doesn't. 

I for one would say Tuchel MADE Rüdiger playing at a high enough level - he wasn't so good under Sarri or Lamps and that would be another of my arguments against Potter 🙃

 

I don't really buy "bad players" argument for one practical reason - it won't change. We have no clear vision of player X, Y and Z coming this winter and off we go. Every transfer we'll make will be sort of gamble and Potter has to work with what he has, otherwise we will die waiting for a proper roster for him to be able to do his job, whatever this job will be.

Manager has to work with what he have, otherwise what's the point of having manager at all or appointing one who for some reason can't do anything with personnel we have.

To say a Premier League manager can't do shit about defense having Kalidou freaking Koulibaly in the team sounds ridiculous at least. Sarri did with washed-out Garry Cahill and not complain.

Edited January 4, 2023 by Vegetable

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4 minutes ago, Jype said:

There was definitely no slacking from Rüdiger, the man always gave maximum effort till the very end. Not entirely convinced Christensen did though.

Either way it's very simple, Tuchel still had Rüdiger playing at a high enough level and Potter doesn't. 

That's an opinion, and one I disagree with.

For me, and me alone, it's still a simple matter of Tuchel vs Potter and I think their resumes say it all.

[Jype 6,398]

Just now, Vegetable said:

I for one would say Tuchel MADE Rüdiger playing at a high enough level - he wasn't so good under Sarri or Lamps and that would another of my arguments against Potter 🙃

Sure, I too fully credit Tuchel with Rüdiger becoming as good as he did but the fact still remains he's gone and the squad is much worse off for it.

Tuchel only coached the team for a bunch of games this season so the sample size is quite small but even at the start of the season Koulibaly looked just as bad as he does now and nowhere near Rüdiger's level.

[Dan Lee 47]

Many people here said things that really made senses. However, a professional guy should know well what they are doing to be promoted/considered/awarded. For the investors, when they put their money into something, it is not just a casual consideration. You talked a lot of things here as if only you can see it. Sometimes, things are not as you see. Maybe they have reasons behind it.

Many smart people are around and within the organization. Give them some credit and time. 

[Blue Armour 4,436]

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Edited January 5, 2023 by Blue Armour

[Vegetable 830]

I wonder what does the dressing room thinks of it.

The supposed fall apart of some players with Tuchel was caused by lack of rotation, yet nothing changed in this departament. I know we managed to reduce the dressing room to mostly people who hardly care for anything bar paycheck, but are they able to actually respect GP? Especially given his pressers of "it's difficult, it's hard, we don't deserved, we are worried, we are suffering".

Can't shake off the feeling that if we'd still have Broccolihead on books, there would already be a prime shithousery going on there.

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

Imagine the likes of Hutchinson, Hall, and Carney who continue to see Sterling, Mount, Havertz, stink up the pitch week after week.

Zero incentive. 

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

2 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Imagine the likes of Hutchinson, Hall, and Carney who continue to see Sterling, Mount, Havertz, stink up the pitch week after week.

Zero incentive. 

Tbf most players will be looking at how shite we are offensively and defensively for the personnel we have and be thinking fuck that.

We are in an awful place atm. 

[Mhsc 1,091]

6 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Imagine the likes of Hutchinson, Hall, and Carney who continue to see Sterling, Mount, Havertz, stink up the pitch week after week.

Zero incentive. 

Agreed, I think it is 100% time for the younger generation to get their go. Players <25 only, plus any player older who has been hitting 7/10 performances over the season on average. 

[DDA 9,924]

How can you watch back the tapes of the last game vs Nottingham Forest and not think, 'fuck it, I'm playing the youth prospects going forward, these bunch of useless cunts have had their chance time and time again'.

It's time to build something new at Chelsea.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Laylabelle 9,534]

9 minutes ago, DDA said:

How can you watch back the tapes of the last game vs Nottingham Forest and not think, 'fuck it, I'm playing the youth prospects going forward, these bunch of useless cunts have had their chance time and time again'.

It's time to build something new at Chelsea.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Exactly what is happening atm isn't working..not like we're winning soooo go for it! We look set to miss top 4 anyway

[cosmicway 1,333]

There 's two ways of looking at glass of water. Half full and half empty.
Imagine we were playing championship last year.
Everyone would say "wow, look at Chelsea, they have reached the middle of the table".
We were not playing in the championship league so everyone says "it's a disaster".
But really we deserve no better than middle of the table. Why do we ?
So what I think is happening is we have no "damage control" at Chelsea. We panic.
To make things better lots of enhancements are needed but perhaps not beyond the club's budget.
We ought to have recognized this before we sacked Tuchel, which was not a wise move.

 

 

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[milka 3,390]

support Potter in what he wants give him time to impose the youth in the team and take those he wants and remove those he does not want like Aubameyang , Pulisic, Ziyech , Sterling (maybe)  for example

The season is over for us anyway

on Sunday we will be out of the FA Cup as well

KTBFFH 

Edited January 5, 2023 by milka

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[Special Juan 28,087]

Again, not his fault, players did well last night, he just needs to look at last night and keep starting Zaharia, don't be afraid to put Chucky in there at the weekend and start players who deserve it.

The injuries are a complete joke, Potter cannot be blamed for that and it's impacting everything that's going on here

[Vegetable 830]

Yeah, he needs time, he needs time, I would really like to know what for, actually.

Like, seriously, what is this guy actually trying to impose here? Make one, bold personal or tactical move so it's clear what the vision is.

We are having worse numbers and worse results compared to a moment when half of this board was #Tuchelout, not much changed except no crosses anymore as we shipped one striker away, another is injured and Auba is suffering. If his idea is to be a transparent figure and quietly provide us with "better football" in two years, this may be super difficult for him and for fans.

[milka 3,390]

Boehly and Eghbali will have noticed that #Chelsea’s match going fans have remained supportive of Potter and the players during the bad run of results. (Telegraph)