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20 minutes ago, manpe said:

This Arteta talk is pissing me off, when Potter brought it up himself I was in disbelief. Look, just because you can bring ONE example, doesn't mean that exception will become the norm. Doesn't mean that every manager who's shit in the beginning will turn into gold. And as has been pointed out previously, statistically Arteta wasn't nearly as bad Potter's Chelsea have been. Plus he won a cup, winning something for a struggling club matters, no matter how big or small. He proved he could win early on, Potter is not going to do that. Also, having watched All for Nothing Arsenal, it was clear that Arteta has great motivational skills and is respected by the players. I would love to see how Potter tries to motivate his players, but looking at his pressers, probably it wouldn't be most inspiring.

I'm not saying we should use it as an excuse to keep Potter, just that there was absolutely nothing to suggest that this was coming with him or Arsenal. The rewritting of the early part of his tenure is driving me nuts.

Yes the cup win was nice for them in isolation, but would you want to see us employing Harry Redknapp, Alex McLeish, Grame Souness or Roberto Martinez? As they all won a domestic cup with much weaker teams.

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24 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I'm not saying we should use it as an excuse to keep Potter, just that there was absolutely nothing to suggest that this was coming with him or Arsenal. The rewritting of the early part of his tenure is driving me nuts.

Yes the cup win was nice for them in isolation, but would you want to see us employing Harry Redknapp, Alex McLeish, Grame Souness or Roberto Martinez? As they all won a domestic cup with much weaker teams.

With Arteta they didn't have the players though; players like Saka, Odegaard, Martinalli, etc needed time. He wasen't given the fund to build a team quickly, if he was given the fund he would have turned around Arsenal much quicker. 

With Potter with all the money we have spent, we have not seen any improvement. 

 

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Completely agree that it is surely annoying to relate to Arteta's story ... everyone goes through the motions and create's their own. What depends is the direction in which they moving which will allow the people on the top to make a call, for me Potter is not showing anything currently which gives me the hope that there will be a turn around in the near future. We're trying out bad strategy expecting change in fortunes. 

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18 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

With Arteta they didn't have the players though; players like Saka, Odegaard, Martinalli, etc needed time. He wasen't given the fund to build a team quickly, if he was given the fund he would have turned around Arsenal much quicker. 

With Potter with all the money we have spent, we have not seen any improvement. 

 

He was hardly penny pinching, over 200m and two and a half years it took to even match Emery's league finish via two 8th place positions which was lower than Wenger even at his most washed up fell, all while playing eye bleeding football akin to Stoke City and despite such tactics they weren't even solid at the back either, that's how Emi Martinez got so much exposure so quickly to allow for a big money move.

Up until this season he was by almost every metric a downgrade on Emery and even the 2011 onwards Wenger we were all laughing at, especially attacking wise.

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14 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

 

I mean they've been glimpse of progress then back to normal week after. I just dont see how the Liverpool game will change anything when yesterday was our 10th loss and another game of being crap. Its just another load of points to be dropped...which we've done for weeks now

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9 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

I mean they've been glimpse of progress then back to normal week after. I just dont see how the Liverpool game will change anything when yesterday was our 10th loss and another game of being crap. Its just another load of points to be dropped...which we've done for weeks now

I guess the board doesnt really care about the league anymore. There is nth to play for anyway. They will see if we can make it past Real or not and assess the situation afterwards. To be fair, any serious replacement coach would want to take over the team after the season is finished anyway.

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What Eddie Howe is doing at Newcastle makes what we’re doing look even more humiliating. Our squad is miles and miles more talented than theirs. We literally have a better player in every single position on the pitch and a bench any given day that’s probably better than their starting XI. And yet they’re being coached so well that they’re years ahead of schedule in their project. 

It’s a shambles that he’s still employed now. Are we waiting for one more humiliating result against Liverpool to act? Embarrassing ourselves on the global stage against Real Madrid? Or is there no low that’s too low and he’s 100% safe no matter what?

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31 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

I guess the board doesnt really care about the league anymore. There is nth to play for anyway. They will see if we can make it past Real or not and assess the situation afterwards. To be fair, any serious replacement coach would want to take over the team after the season is finished anyway.

We won't make it past Real..to get past them you need to score. We can't score! Sooooooo. 

I did think we were playing for Euorpa or had a chance but think that ship has sailed. Now playing for 10th!

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I'd say it's becoming laughable, but it laughable since at least 2 months. Soon the board will consider grass being too green an obstacle for Potter to perform and decide to focus on "bigger picture", that is, I guess, our chances to reach the upper part of Championship's table.

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58 minutes ago, Pizy said:

What Eddie Howe is doing at Newcastle makes what we’re doing look even more humiliating. Our squad is miles and miles more talented than theirs. We literally have a better player in every single position on the pitch and a bench any given day that’s probably better than their starting XI.

Wouldnt disagree with that. Just watched them beat Man U - but what all their players have more than ours is aggression, which, comes down to coaching

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