Jase 43,479 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 17 minutes ago, Tomo said: Would be different situations. Gilmour has all the potential in the world while Gallagher's probably a versatile squad player level, makes sense to loan the former out while using the latter as squad filler, even more so given he's also capable of filling in higher up, especially when Mount needs a rest. But both are still inexperienced and unlike Gallagher, Gilmour at least already has some experience in playing for us. I don’t see the point of him filling in for Mount when we already so many options upfront to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, King Kante said: Well I think it is a fairly logical leap Zouma would be someone the club would sell, as: 1) He clearly doesn't fit TT's style 2) He is the type of defender a lot of PL clubs would like 3) His minutes were starting to dwindle to Tammy numbers 4) We have so many players, some will need to be sold, who could admittedly be handy, in order to raise some capital. I will freely admit, this is me crystal ball gazing and not based on any sort of fact. So, please take more as a projection/prediction rather than me stating it will be a fact/is happening. I knew it! 😪 King Kante 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 With James now hopefully Zouma is merely an emergency option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,270 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, Clockwork said: A veteran and proven goal scorer is what we need. Given the amount investment we have made in our young attackers. Haaland was never going to happen. We could do much worse. he isn't coming here for a multiplicity of reasons Manure being a big one I am just gobsmacked that a sarcastic throw-away line by Jason has been latched onto and one of the players in it is now being given weight as some sort of viable path to pursue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,270 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: With James now hopefully Zouma is merely an emergency option. we REALLY need to sell Zouma so many teams would want him he just doesn't fit our scheme, but he is a more than viable CB in the right situation Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Vesper said: we REALLY need to sell Zouma so many teams would want him he just doesn't fit our scheme, but he is a more than viable CB in the right situation If we sell Zouma, we will likely then have to get a replacement because that would leave us with just 3 out-and-out CBs and one of them is soon to be 37 years old while another 2 is like half-CB and half-RWB at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,270 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, Jas said: If we sell Zouma, we will likely then have to get a replacement because that would leave us with just 3 out-and-out CBs and one of them is soon to be 37 years old while another 2 is like half-CB and half-RWB at the moment. Romagnoli is there for the taking at a cut rate price compared to what was wanted in the past then there is Maxence Lacroix and Sven Botman finally, IF he really wants out and Pep truly is putting him up for sale, there is Laporte, who I absolutely still rate Both Romagnoli and Laporte are left footers as well. Any of these 4 are a big upgrade over Zouma, and selling him covers a lot of the cost https://gyazo.com/1e2ea99e4bed464a77083dba9893cf03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Clockwork said: A veteran and proven goal scorer is what we need. Given the amount investment we have made in our young attackers. Haaland was never going to happen. We could do much worse. If we need a veteran striker, Benzema is the one (who is also unavailable) to go for. CR7 is far too greedy to pump up his stats to be in this side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Jas said: If we sell Zouma, we will likely then have to get a replacement because that would leave us with just 3 out-and-out CBs and one of them is soon to be 37 years old while another 2 is like half-CB and half-RWB at the moment. Tbh, the RCB gets played as a Half Back in the current system. Not sure you need a 'real' CB for the position. Dave and James are fine imo for that position. OhForAGreavsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 The problem is next season when Rudiger, Christensen, Azpi and Silva's contracts finish. We will be left with Zouma and Ampadu with no planning. A CB around Christensen's age, e.g. Romagnoli, would set us up in that position for a while. I think we have more pressing matters, and letting someone like Ampadu play 5th or 6th CB isn't the worst idea, even if Zouma is sold. Tuchel seems to spot player talent better than Lampard and I'm guessing a full preseason will allow him to see what we have. I think we might see one or two surprises a la Moses under Conte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 27 minutes ago, King Kante said: Tbh, the RCB gets played as a Half Back in the current system. Not sure you need a 'real' CB for the position. Dave and James are fine imo for that position. Well, either we get a RWB then or an out-and-out CB. If we sell Zouma, we'll have only 3 out-and-out CBs in Rudiger, Christensen and Silva and I'm not sure Silva's fitness, especially, will hold up for an entire season. If one of them gets injured, then James or Azpi will be moved to the middle three, then leaving the other one for the RWB slot with no backup. Of course, Tuchel could switch to a back 4 or CHO can be used as a RWB but god knows where he is now in Tuchel's mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Jas said: Well, either we get a RWB then or an out-and-out CB. If we sell Zouma, we'll have only 3 out-and-out CBs in Rudiger, Christensen and Silva and I'm not sure Silva's fitness, especially, will hold up for an entire season. If one of them gets injured, then James or Azpi will be moved to the middle three, then leaving the other one for the RWB slot with no backup. Of course, Tuchel could switch to a back 4 or CHO can be used as a RWB but god knows where he is now in Tuchel's mind. We will sign Traore or promote Livramento. We have CBs coming back from loan and in the academy too. We need to find ways to utilise what we have before spending a 30-40m of squad players. Especially if we want to buy Haaland or Mbappe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,369 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Why are you guys concerned about MF? We have 2 ballon d'or candidates 😌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Why are you guys concerned about MF? We have 2 ballon d'or candidates 😌 Because our depth is 1. We have 3 MFs competing for 2 spots. If Kante gets injured, we can't win the league with Jorginho/Kovacic pivot. Magic Lamps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, Hashishi said: Because our depth is 1. We have 3 MFs competing for 2 spots. If Kante gets injured, we can't win the league with Jorginho/Kovacic pivot. agree. we completely ran jorginho and kante in the ground after kova's injury and it bit us. we need another one for cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: agree. we completely ran jorginho and kante in the ground after kova's injury and it bit us. we need another one for cover. With Billy going, we must have someone in mind, even if that is Gallagher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, King Kante said: With Billy going, we must have someone in mind, even if that is Gallagher. Bakayoko. 🙃 Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, King Kante said: With Billy going, we must have someone in mind, even if that is Gallagher. I think it's because a loan is the best thing for the players development. Keeping him here to play half a role another season will stunt his growth. Gallagher spent last season at West Brom, I think he's ready to cover. I would definitely prefer someone like Barella or Locatelli to improve us though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jas said: Bakayoko. 🙃 Lets hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hashishi said: I think it's because a loan is the best thing for the players development. Keeping him here to play half a role another season will stunt his growth. Gallagher spent last season at West Brom, I think he's ready to cover. I would definitely prefer someone like Barella or Locatelli to improve us though. I suspect Gallagher will go on loan again. Tuchel reportedly wants a midfielder signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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