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3 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I wonder why that is, maybe Livra still wants to make it here whereas Bate is indifferent?

Or maybe the club just rates Livramento higher and made that clear to Tino himself too.

If the deal really includes a buy-back clause at a reasonable value (<20m) and the player would be happy to come back, then I don't mind the sale. Get a couple years of PL experience at Soton and if he proves good enough then buy him back, and if not then he was never going to make it at Chelsea anyway.

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7 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Just sign an inexpensive stopgap if we can’t get Haaland, ffs. Don’t spunk £100m on Lukaku who doesn’t even truly want to leave his Milan comfort zone.

Ings perhaps. Or Griezmann on loan. 

I would rather just gamble on Armando Broja than buy someone like Danny Ings.

I probably rate Lukaku higher than most on here and would actually like to have him at the club if/when Haaland can't be signed but him wanting to stay at Inter is a warning sign. Has he found a perfect home at Inter and that's why he's playing so well, or can he reproduce similar level performances elsewhere too? And if he reluctantly accepts a move because Inter get a bid too good to refuse, is money his only personal motivation to return? A lot of question marks over Lukaku.

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9 minutes ago, Jype said:

I would rather just gamble on Armando Broja than buy someone like Danny Ings.

I probably rate Lukaku higher than most on here and would actually like to have him at the club if/when Haaland can't be signed but him wanting to stay at Inter is a warning sign. Has he found a perfect home at Inter and that's why he's playing so well, or can he reproduce similar level performances elsewhere too? And if he reluctantly accepts a move because Inter get a bid too good to refuse, is money his only personal motivation to return? A lot of question marks over Lukaku.

Disagree. I now don't have the belief that Timo's finishing issue will ever be resolved. We will have another year of him trying to force goals from tight angles, taking the wrong option and panicking under pressure. We need another striker option and not someone green like Broja who will have issues of his own to work through in his game.

I am not sure if Ings is the right option because I think the striker should not just be a poacher/finisher but be equally good at pressing, making runs all game. But having Broja as option #2 screams bad management

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1 minute ago, Strike said:

Disagree. I now don't have the belief that Timo's finishing issue will ever be resolved. We will have another year of him trying to force goals from tight angles, taking the wrong option and panicking under pressure. We need another striker option and not someone green like Broja who will have issues of his own to work through in his game.

I am not sure if Ings is the right option because I think the striker should not just be a poacher/finisher but be equally good at pressing, making runs all game. But having Broja as option #2 screams bad management

In any case, if it comes down to getting some stopgap option like Ings (or similar) then it can wait till the end of the window and just get someone near deadline day who's still available.

In the meantime we have four competitive matches (and one friendly against Spurs) before the window closes so we can get some kind of idea how Werner, Havertz etc. will get on this season. If they bang in goals for fun during those early games then maybe a striker is not as necessary as people think? And if it still looks like a striker is desperately needed then there will surely be some players of Ings-like quality available later on, so no point panicking and getting someone like that in now. 

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3 minutes ago, Jype said:

In any case, if it comes down to getting some stopgap option like Ings (or similar) then it can wait till the end of the window and just get someone near deadline day who's still available.

In the meantime we have four competitive matches (and one friendly against Spurs) before the window closes so we can get some kind of idea how Werner, Havertz etc. will get on this season. If they bang in goals for fun during those early games then maybe a striker is not as necessary as people think? And if it still looks like a striker is desperately needed then there will surely be some players of Ings-like quality available later on, so no point panicking and getting someone like that in now. 

That's true. This signing can be left for later. But do think that Kai needs a genuine #9 backup if we can't sign Haaland/Lukaku

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