Chelsea Transfers

[Clockwork 1,794]

I think you guys need to prepare yourselves for a quite transfer window. I anticipate minor signing there and there.

[Jase 43,479]

7 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

I think the only way Haaland comes to us is, if we offer a player in return (CHO is like someone they're keen on) to give them some incentive.

The only reason they want CHO is because they are prepared to sell Sancho this summer. 

[Pizy 18,877]

7 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

I agree. Not to mention all International tournaments going on as well.

  

Did you see what they did last Summer to Utd? 

I think the only way Haaland comes to us is, if we offer a player in return (CHO is like someone they're keen on) to give them some incentive.

Tbf, they gave Man United a clear valuation for Sancho and they fucked about all summer trying to get a discount. If they had just payed what was asked Sancho would’ve been in a red shirt already.

We have to at least try here. If they say no they say no.

[Superblue 6,372]

37 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

I think hes gonna do another season at Paris then leave on a free in all honesty to go to one of Madrid/Barca. He has one year left on his deal and personally I think he wants to go to Spain as has been talked about for ages, mainly Madrid when Zizou was there but Barca will have seem him up close and personal a few months ago and he was electric against them also.

It's another possible dilemma.

Both Mbappe and Haaland may be available next summer and whilst it would be fierce competition, the club will surely want to make a play for both.

The only chance we really have is to be as competitive as possible again next season in England and Europe, hopefully winning something again. But to aid this we could really do with strengthening, but do you then spend big on an attacker this summer or wait for the next?

It's always going to be difficult going up against Real Madrid and Barcelona in the transfer market but this could be a really important season for both. They are both debt ridden and in need of a rebuild. I wonder whether Haaland and Mbappe are able to look through the glamour and history of both and instead look elsewhere. A strong season next year could really put us in a position to make a strong claim for one of them.

[LAM09 7,043]

4 minutes ago, Jas said:

The only reason they want CHO is because they are prepared to sell Sancho this summer. 

That would still work in our favour. Dortmund are a selling club after all, so if teams pay up, Haaland & Sancho will leave.

2 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Tbf, they gave Man United a clear valuation for Sancho and they fucked about all summer trying to get a discount. If they had just payed what was asked Sancho would’ve been in a red shirt already.

We have to at least try here. If they say no they say no.

We've been known to do exactly the same. So many rumours going around about a clause and so, but if Dortmund say £125m+, we're out.

[Clockwork 1,794]

Why guys so high on Haaland? We already have 3 underperforming former Bundesliga stars, personally don’t have the stomach for another one.

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Tbf, they gave Man United a clear valuation for Sancho and they fucked about all summer trying to get a discount. If they had just payed what was asked Sancho would’ve been in a red shirt already.

We have to at least try here. If they say no they say no.

Think the fact the fact they are already maintaining a strong stance over Haaland is the reason why no one has bothered to really go for him. Am sure clubs, not just us, would have tried testing the waters long ago. 

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1 minute ago, LAM09 said:

Dortmund are a selling club after all, so if teams pay up, Haaland & Sancho will leave.

They will let one go this summer, not both. And Sancho is the one they are willing to sell this summer.

[Jase 43,479]

The idea isn't necessarily bad but for those wanting us to push the boat out for Haaland, let's not forget that we ourselves asked Hazard to stay for another season (2018/19) when we could have sold him a year earlier to Real Madrid to get more money. Granted, he didn't have a release clause like Haaland does with his contract but the situation was the same like the latter now. Club got the player to stay for another season despite the risk of getting less money for him.

[Clockwork 1,794]

What is point of Haaland, when our recent signing like Pulisic, Havertz, and Werner all underperformed after coming from that league. Only player I would be interested from that league is Lewandoski.

 

[Superblue 6,372]

21 minutes ago, Jas said:

The idea isn't necessarily bad but for those wanting us to push the boat out for Haaland, let's not forget that we ourselves asked Hazard to stay for another season (2018/19) when we could have sold him a year earlier to Real Madrid to get more money. Granted, he didn't have a release clause like Haaland does with his contract but the situation was the same like the latter now. Club got the player to stay for another season despite the risk of getting less money for him.

It's a great point. They may lose a player or two this summer so may view keeping Haaland as even more vital for making sure they qualify for the Champions League again. That could well cover the £40m or so they may get as extra this summer.

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4 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

It's a great point. They may lose a player or two this summer so may view keeping Haaland as even more vital for making sure they qualify for the Champions League again. That could well cover the £40m or so they may get as extra this summer.

Exactly. Will also help to challenge for the Bundesliga (Bayern have a new manager. So god knows what will happen there), go as far as possible in the Champions League (get as much money as possible) and maybe win the DFB Pokal again (more sporting success).

On top of that, from Haaland's perspective, staying another year at Dortmund wouldn't necessarily be bad for his development either since he's still only 20 years old and come next summer, he'll have more European clubs to choose from compared to this summer. And with clubs having to pay less transfer fee then, Haaland and Raiola can look to get more personal money from the signing-on fee and agent fee. He can also start a bidding war to see which club will offer him the highest salary.

Matt Law was saying in his article the other day if we spend 150m+ on Haaland this summer, it'll take up almost our entire transfer budget. And that's on transfer fee alone. 

[NikkiCFC 8,300]

1 hour ago, Clockwork said:

What is point of Haaland, when our recent signing like Pulisic, Havertz, and Werner all underperformed after coming from that league. Only player I would be interested from that league is Lewandoski.

 

Would not say Pulisic is underperforming. 13 PL goals and 6 assists in minutes equal to exactly one full season is very good. So, one goal contribution every 2 games. In fact, he scored same number of goals in PL and Bundesliga already.

And only thing not good about German boys is finishing. But that will come.

Edited June 2, 2021 by NikkiCFC

[King Kante 1,643]

4 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

 

I am sorry but what? I mean is this based on  3 seasons ago still re his first touch? And even then, did he really fail at United?

I mean his first season he scored 27 goals and then his second season 15. If he failed scoring 42 goals in 2 seasons god help us. And even then you would think United were an amazing team when he was there also... Ah wait they weren’t, they were a team devoid of any real creativity for the whole time he was there under Mourinho. 

Aye he had a bad spell for a bit with United, was overweight for a period but Inter also diagnosed him with a serious bowel problem which they put him on a diet for to rectify and thats definitely controversially led to him being a lot sharper with Conte. Who knows how long he had that for because at United he looked slower, less dynamic, a lot more stockier for a period of time yet still got 15 goals that season despite going on a poor goal scoring run. 

Go and watch him for Inter, he has clearly improved his first touch, his back to goal play etc. He’s never going to be Lewandowski maybe or prime Suarez but to say he hasn’t improved that aspect is just painfully ignorant from someone who I am guessing probably hasn’t even watched any Serie A games he’s been played in.

I still don’t think he will want to leave Italy though. Why would he? Hes proven himself in the PL, yes he hasnt won a PL title but from a personal point of view he scored 113 goals and made 35 assists in 251 games. Ironically more goals than his hero Drogba.

Plus people complaining about the quality of Serie A, aye its not what it was but its not as bad as you would seriously think. I like the PL but lets no be as oblivious and make out it is the hardest league in the world when in fact it has as many shit teams as every other league and the only thing that makes the PL different from these teams is probably the finances available. It is as hard as many other teams in other top leagues because there is still clearly a gap between top and bottom tier teams.

For instance mentioning Ibrahimovich being up near the top of goals despite the fact he joined Man United aged what 35/36 4 years ago and scored 17 PL goals in 28 games....

Then what about Mo Salah signed from Roma and scored 44 goals in his first season for Liverpool no? PL top scorer that season also? No?

If Ronaldo were to rejoin United he would also piss the PL for goals.

Is it the same for Ligue 1? Wait Cavani got 10 goals this season also in extremely limited minutes when he was apparently finished.

Even Bale scored 11 PL goals this season.

There is a theme here, if you score goals regularly in one country you can certainly do it in another..... Lukaku would do it again 100%. 

I have seen Lukaku and I am not sold that he has improved much. I think a lot of it is to do with the competition level he is playing against and how that benefits his style of play. 

Personally, I am not a fan of looking purely at stats, as this typically takes away the context around them. However, my stance on Lukaku is that he is a bit fit for us as his ball work in close quarters isn't good enough and he will quickly find himself back in the same situation he did at Utd when teams dropped off on them. 

Couple of other points: 

1) No players aren't poor if they play in other leagues. For instance, I said I wanted Cavani last year and was essentially laughed at. Again, it is about looking at the player and trying to ascertain how his skill set will suit the way we play. 

2) Zlatan is a great player no doubt and I wasn't particularly surprised when he came into Utd and did the business. However, he is nearly 40 now and on one knee, that is a bit of a difference. 

3 hours ago, R2D2 said:

We do but Lukaku isn't the solution not for that pricetag, not for those absurd wages, not for that age and not for those skills, I'd say it's bullet dodged, just hope he doesn't change his mind.

I trust Werner and Kai to deliver next season and while it may backfire we should all keep in mind that Tuchel only came in the middle of the season and brought us back in Top 4, taking the points we got since he got here we should easily finish Top 4 during the whole season even with no improvements. The good thing is we will surely improve maybe not with a ST but with a new midfielder, a more attacking RB, a top class CB.

Yeah, fee and wages is what does it. If he was day 25/26 and £50m on £100k I would probably be ok with it. However, €100m at 28 and €200k+, nah I am alright thanks. 

2 hours ago, Jas said:

Think Haaland is impossible. This is the same club that decided to keep Lewandowski in his final year of the contract rather than sell him to Bayern and then let him go to them for free after that.

Yeah, Håland is a no go. To be honest, I am still annoyed we didn't get Cavani last year, he would be a good option for this team. 

2 hours ago, R2D2 said:

 

Surely the club don't think they're getting €20m for Emerson? 

Edited June 3, 2021 by King Kante

[Clockwork 1,794]

2 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Would not say Pulisic is underperforming. 13 PL goals and 6 assists in minutes equal to exactly one full season is very good. So, one goal contribution every 2 games. In fact, he scored same number of goals in PL and Bundesliga already.

And only thing not good about German boys is finishing. But that will come.

Pulisic has had his moments for sure, but let’s be honest if those three perform to the level we invested in them we wouldn’t be talking about Sancho, Haaland or other attackers.