Chelsea Transfers

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28 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

If Declan Rice is a real possibility this window then I could see Kante being the one sold to fund it. There's been some rumours recently that Conte wants him at Inter, and I could also see PSG possibly looking at him if they know we're willing to sell this window.

As good as Kante has been at Chelsea, Rice is far more suited to play that holding role in midfield that we're lacking.

Perhaps a year playing that role, whilst Thiago Silva is here and then next summer the club can re-assess the situation (whether a new holding midfielder is brought and Rice moves to centre back, or we buy a new centre back and continue Rice in midfield).

Absolute ZERO chance we'll sell Kante. If anything is going to fund the purchase of Rice, it'll be through the sales of Barkley, Jorginho, Batshuayi etc. 

Also, there is no guarantee Rice will play as the DM when all the reports have suggested Lampard sees him as a CB. And even if he plays as the DM, we're gonna depth in that position. 

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Just now, Dimitr said:

Wir werden sicher ein gk kaufen, aber keine Weltklasse. Wenn wir Havertz nicht unterschreiben würden, könnten wir uns für Oblak entscheiden (gleiche Gebühr). Aber ich glaube Onana oder Cakir oder jemand anderes.

Hopefully it will be one from Oblak Donnarumma, Pope Cakir or Maignin ..
No onana or mendy please.

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I think this could backfire badly. 2/3rds of squad brand new, plenty of cash spent and we will never hear again about Tomori, Tammy, Odoi, RLC, Mount; at least not in as starting players...

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11 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

I think this could backfire badly. 2/3rds of squad brand new, plenty of cash spent and we will never hear again about Tomori, Tammy, Odoi, RLC, Mount; at least not in as starting players...

Mount will still get plenty of games. CHO will also owing to the nature of the AM position and the amount of games there will be next season. Tammy may have a bit if a job but I expect to see him at least 20 times next season. Tomori will be loaned/sold with a buyback. RLC is the one that should be worried. If Harvetz comes in, I have: Harvetz, Mount and Kova all playing ahead of him. 

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28 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Mount will still get plenty of games. CHO will also owing to the nature of the AM position and the amount of games there will be next season. Tammy may have a bit if a job but I expect to see him at least 20 times next season. Tomori will be loaned/sold with a buyback. RLC is the one that should be worried. If Harvetz comes in, I have: Harvetz, Mount and Kova all playing ahead of him. 

Thats not the point though. Instead of Mount progressing and improving, we just bought Kai as our starter.

We had chance to see how far he will reach as our AM, but instead we forked 90m on new shiny toy. 

I guess we will be more competitive, but thats clear goodbye to having faith in our youth. 

Using them as rotation and state they will get playtime isnt exactly like putting them on the front line and belive they will succeed.

Im not mad about our spending, but I also hoped we will actualy develop our players and in few years, there will be couple from our youth system forming our winning core. 

Truth now is only James has some chance as starter. Tomori PLAYED here and was big success last first half of season, now he is about to be loaned out. Enough said how much we trust him. RLC has little chance now with the competition. Mount is never getting ahead of Kai or Puli unless they flop. He will be good rotation player,  but thats  not exactly leading the team is it. Tammy, ok, he is super limited but same. Odoi maybe, but if Ziyech is our man for next 3 years, Odoi will waste key years on bench. Cup games here and there with PL game once every blue moon isnt it. They need to play week in and out like Sancho. Get that rhytm and consistency.

But it is what it is. It always looked too good to be true tbh.

 

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5 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Thats not the point though. Instead of Mount progressing and improving, we just bought Kai as our starter.

We had chance to see how far he will reach as our AM, but instead we forked 90m on new shiny toy. 

I guess we will be more competitive, but thats clear goodbye to having faith in our youth. 

Using them as rotation and state they will get playtime isnt exactly like putting them on the front line and belive they will succeed.

Im not mad about our spending, but I also hoped we will actualy develop our players and in few years, there will be couple from our youth system forming our winning core. 

Truth now is only James has some chance as starter. Tomori PLAYED here and was big success last first half of season, now he is about to be loaned out. Enough said how much we trust him. RLC has little chance now with the competition. Mount is never getting ahead of Kai or Puli unless they flop. He will be good rotation player,  but thats  not exactly leading the team is it. Tammy, ok, he is super limited but same. Odoi maybe, but if Ziyech is our man for next 3 years, Odoi will waste key years on bench. Cup games here and there with PL game once every blue moon isnt it. They need to play week in and out like Sancho. Get that rhytm and consistency.

But it is what it is. It always looked too good to be true tbh.

 

If any of the youth is good enough they will play. Even as backups they could establish themselves as players here.

But we are Chelsea ffs, we are not happy to finish top4 every season.

I rate James and CHO but if they perform like today how long we would need to wait for them? Azpi is still better than James.

Tammy is what he is and that is not good enough. I do not see much place for improvements either. Same with Mount, he is not going to become suddenly some creative force.

So no point in overplaying youth just for the sake of it.

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I do not read too much into today's game. James I thought was ok in the main though, that said I think this season will have James as RB2 with Dave as RB1 but that was to be expected. Further, I predict Mount to start quite a lot of games alongside Harvetz. 

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On 8/28/2020 at 5:25 PM, Tomo said:

Disagree, too risky to sign him based on a months form.

 

On 8/28/2020 at 5:56 PM, Tomo said:

But ultimately we don't know how much his performances are due to the momentum and/or surprise package. Coming to Chelsea as a number 1 is a different ball game to his run in the Arsenal side where he could only have won.

 

On 8/28/2020 at 5:50 PM, killer1257 said:

 

 

Arsenal fans do not want him out. Look at Twitter. Some are furious that Arsenal are willing to sell him. Leno came in for 25 million Euros and is a bigger name than Martinez.
Martinez wants to leave because he wants to be no. 1 and he has shown his insane potential in PL. Not Eredivisie, not Ligue 1 He showed it in Pl. I do not see any real worrying weakness.

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15 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Its the game sample thats too small.

Onana had 10/10 season in eredivisie last year, but only about 7/10 this year.

Maybe Martinez is top GK, maybe it was just a run.

 

15 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I have far more doubts over Martinez than some seem to on here. 

There has to be question marks that three managers at Arsenal have now considered him nothing better than a backup, and it's hardly like he's gone out on loan and been successful either. He's just about to turn 28 and he's barely played 50 games in his career. In a top flight that number drops to about 20. 

We're talking about a seriously untested player here. He had a good end of season at Arsenal, but any player can hit a purple patch. Even Kepa looked half decent for stretches in his first season. 

For me though he has to play more games to be considered.

I normally agree that it is too early to judge as he has not been no.1 for long, but he literally looks real deal. Another fantastic game today. He catches everything too and reminds me of Neuer. Completely commands the goal and is huge. Makes himself big. I think after today, Arteta definitely will not be selling him and will make him no.1 choice. Was so commanding and that was a big call which paid off. Martinez has everything. Leno is a good shot stopper but error prone.

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3 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

I think this could backfire badly. 2/3rds of squad brand new, plenty of cash spent and we will never hear again about Tomori, Tammy, Odoi, RLC, Mount; at least not in as starting players...

RLC is done as a top level player. His injury wrecked him. Tammy never was starting material. Mount and CHO (who also looks done rn but at least has age on his side) will start plenty of games. Tomori remains to be see . We only bought types of players we need and we also have here was a lot of outflux so I don’t mind at all. And the last thing this match was is and indication for the success of our transfer business

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Mendy didn't play today for Rennes. He's clear first choice so either he's injured, has covid or there's a transfer in the works.  

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Mendy didn't play today for Rennes. He's clear first choice so either he's injured, has covid or there's a transfer in the works.  

Has covid lol

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3 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

If any of the youth is good enough they will play. Even as backups they could establish themselves as players here.

But we are Chelsea ffs, we are not happy to finish top4 every season.

I rate James and CHO but if they perform like today how long we would need to wait for them? Azpi is still better than James.

Tammy is what he is and that is not good enough. I do not see much place for improvements either. Same with Mount, he is not going to become suddenly some creative force.

So no point in overplaying youth just for the sake of it.

Is this realy bs people believe?

Was Sancho good enough? Because he looks pretty damn good to me. Yet City decided to buy Mahrez and Silva instead of giving chance to Sancho.

Yea he would play sure. Maybe a game every 100 years. But he wouldnt develop like he did in Bvb. 

This crap about if he is good he will play is worlds biggest load of crap. Lets say Odoi plays well. Will Ziyech be benched? Kai? Puli? Never. It would take Odoi to play 10-20 games in row to leave any sort of mark. One game wont change shit. And only if someone gets injured, he will get those 10+ games. Sancho at the time wasnt "good enough" to play so Pep didnt play him. But you dont judge them on now, but on 1,2, 5 years from now. Can Odoi be great player then? Yes. What does he need to achieve? Faith and playtime as in first 11, week in and out. Will we do that? No because we forked 200m on others.

So no, playtime here and there with side role isnt gonna make CHO or anyone else here a worldbeater.