Chelsea Transfers

[Thor 2,392]

16 minutes ago, Pizy said:

If we were supplementing this massive youth movement with established, top class players in the 25-28 range every now and then I’d say “fair play, that’s a smart strategy.” But it seems like what we’re actually doing is targeting only young talents who are perhaps years away from being Chelsea first team quality, if they’re ever ready.

I don’t understand how the ownership expects us to get the UCL revenue back flowing every year when we’re going to once again have a squad full of kids over the next few seasons.

Our squad now are maturing and growing together. And in turn the players coming in will be understudies and learn. And we will play a particular way and players can just slot in. 
 

Takes a while to get up and running but when it does you have players slot in seamlessly like Liverpool and City have had when young guys step in during points of injury. 
 

These guys had a rocky start with the Dodgers too and have been super successful since. 

[robsblubot 3,502]

54 minutes ago, Pizy said:

If we were supplementing this massive youth movement with established, top class players in the 25-28 range every now and then I’d say “fair play, that’s a smart strategy.” But it seems like what we’re actually doing is targeting only young talents who are perhaps years away from being Chelsea first team quality, if they’re ever ready.

I don’t understand how the ownership expects us to get the UCL revenue back flowing every year when we’re going to once again have a squad full of kids over the next few seasons.

Agreed. It's really the part I disagree with about the strategy. You have to make bets esp up front, but boy they incur into unnecessary risk by the lack of experience.

35 minutes ago, Thor said:

Our squad now are maturing and growing together. And in turn the players coming in will be understudies and learn. And we will play a particular way and players can just slot in. 
 

Takes a while to get up and running but when it does you have players slot in seamlessly like Liverpool and City have had when young guys step in during points of injury. 
 

These guys had a rocky start with the Dodgers too and have been super successful since. 

Disagree. Contrary to Baseball, football is a contact sport, much more so than Basketball, for example. The bigger the challenge, more contact and more intimidation, being technical, physical, or mental comes into play. Yes, given time some players will raise to the challenge, but why a club like Chelsea is OK waiting? Why not help out by getting, like @Pizy suggested above a couple of players to expedite the process?
It's very worrying that the one leader we've got is on a short deal and there is talks about him leaving.

It's also a bit wishful thinking to imagine that all players that have been unavailable last season will become available for the whole season, esp considering some of these players injury history.

[KEVINAA 90]

The Aston Villa academy players linked with.

LINO SOUSA

https://www.transfermarkt.com/lino-sousa/profil/spieler/743414

Date of birth/Age: Jan 19, 2005 (19)

Place of birth: Portugal Lisboa

Citizenship: England

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MORGAN ROGERS

https://www.transfermarkt.com/morgan-rogers/profil/spieler/503743

Date of birth/Age: Jul 26, 2002 (21)

Place of birth: England Halesowen

Citizenship: England

Edited June 20 by KEVINAA

[Vesper 28,767]

2 hours ago, TheHulk said:

@Vesper is he good?

I posted on him a month ago

he looks pretty solid and Boca Jrs players often do well in europe

he is one of top 2 teen Argie CBs atm

his release clause is susposedly £21m, which is steep

Tobias Palacio is the other top rated teen Argie CB

[Vesper 28,767]

9 minutes ago, KEVINAA said:

The Aston Villa academy players linked with.

LINO SOUSA

https://www.transfermarkt.com/lino-sousa/profil/spieler/743414

Date of birth/Age: Jan 19, 2005 (19)

Place of birth: Portugal Lisboa

Citizenship: England

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MORGAN ROGERS

https://www.transfermarkt.com/morgan-rogers/profil/spieler/503743

Date of birth/Age: Jul 26, 2002 (21)

Place of birth: England Halesowen

Citizenship: England

both of these 2 are worth a hard look

Rogers scored against us and is a right footed LWer, which we need

and Sousa has great size and pace, plus is a LB

[Strike 7,217]

 

 

[bigbluewillie 1,859]

5 hours ago, TheHulk said:

 

 

Liverpool aim to beat Chelsea and Manchester United to the signing of French winger Michael Olise, 22, from Crystal Palace. (Football Transfers), external

 

[Strike 7,217]

5 hours ago, Pizy said:

This has the potential to be the worst/most underwhelming transfer window we’ve had in recent memory.

It is starting to resemble the sort of window a club like Everton or Brentford have. 

Been less than a week since the window opened. Last year, we went from considering Olise, Cherki and Kudus to signing Palmer. Still a long way to go.

Except for their GK decision, which I hope they revisit, I think its been a cautiously good start. 

 

[robsblubot 3,502]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

Been less than a week since the window opened. Last year, we went from considering Olise, Cherki and Kudus to signing Palmer. Still a long way to go.

Except for their GK decision, which I hope they revisit, I think its been a cautiously good start. 

 

With the departure of Silva, and the fact that our sole leader, Conor, is on a short deal (1y), and doesn't want to talk about any of it, does not worry you?

I understand that we did not get any Europe, my point exactly, but don't we want to improve our chances of getting better results when facing more experienced and quality sides? I personally think we were a signing way from getting silverware last season; yes, a small cup, that'd be a great start as opposed to what some here think -- we did NOT have a great start.

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[Strike 7,217]

20 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

With the departure of Silva, and the fact our sole leader, Conor, is on a short deal (1y) and doesn't want to talk about any of it does not worry you?

I understand that we did not get any Europe, my point exactly, but don't we want to improve our chances of getting better results when facing more experienced and quality sides? I personally think we were a signing way from getting silverware last season; yes, a small cup, that'd be a great start as opposed to some of you thing -- we did NOT have a great start.

I am worried about roster formation and have been on here advocating for players in their prime. 

But it is offset by having players like Reece back and the knowledge that most of the youngsters have got one season under their belt.

[Strike 7,217]

We were also super competitive against the top quality teams last season. 3rd in the 'Big 6' table behind Arsenal and City. 

It is the smaller teams where this squad needed to stay disciplined, be professional and put teams away - that's where we are struggling. And we will continue to struggle unless we make a few signings. 

[robsblubot 3,502]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

I am worried about roster formation and have been on here advocating for players in their prime. 

But it is offset by having players like Reece back and the knowledge that most of the youngsters have got one season under their belt.

Well we all hope Reece can remain fit; different if we have leaders actually on the pitch for a change.

1 hour ago, Strike said:

We were also super competitive against the top quality teams last season. 3rd in the 'Big 6' table behind Arsenal and City. 

It is the smaller teams where this squad needed to stay disciplined, be professional and put teams away - that's where we are struggling. And we will continue to struggle unless we make a few signings. 

Were we *super* competitive? Every time it counted we lost and we are talking about cups here. Twice! To a depleted mostly reserves Liverpool and a visibly tired City missing their main striker (who was just tired as well).
I'd agree we were competitive (could've won esp against City), but is that really that much an achievement considering the amount spent?
I disagree on the reason we did not beat the smaller teams; for me it's mainly due to lack of quality. The better teams well they "find a way to win" those matches through sheer quality.

Edited June 20 by robsblubot

[Special Juan 27,421]

So according to Romano Palace have offered Olise a new contract but we are still favorites due to the offer and terms we have offered and also staying close to him for a year since he nearly joined us last summer.

Get rid of Mudryk and get Eze

[Reddish-Blue 2,345]

2 hours ago, Strike said:

But it is offset by having players like Reece back and the knowledge that most of the youngsters have got one season under their belt.

whilst that is true, those 'youngsters' will need to re-learn or adjust to Maresca's playing style....whereas if they had kept Poch, the club could have skipped that part of the process and used the pre-season to see if any of the youngsters/loan players should be considered for the first team squad. 

Going through managers so quickly can really impact young players development and what's the guarantee that Maresca will be able to get the best out of Enzo-Caicedo-Lavia.

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

43 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Get rid of Mudryk and get Eze

I could deffo get on board with this, although I still think there is a player in there still, eze is just great to watch.

[Strike 7,217]

2 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

whilst that is true, those 'youngsters' will need to re-learn or adjust to Maresca's playing style....whereas if they had kept Poch, the club could have skipped that part of the process and used the pre-season to see if any of the youngsters/loan players should be considered for the first team squad. 

Going through managers so quickly can really impact young players development and what's the guarantee that Maresca will be able to get the best out of Enzo-Caicedo-Lavia.

I agree but Poch was an average appointment. The rules of continuity that applied to Arteta, Klopp etc don't apply to him. Happy to have made the switch and eager to see what this group of players (with few returning injured players) can do under a serious tactical coach. 

[Reddish-Blue 2,345]

44 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

I disagree on the reason we did not beat the smaller teams; for me it's mainly due to lack of quality. The better teams well they "find a way to win" those matches through sheer quality.

It's not just quality, it's also the lack of a focal point up top.  Palmer can also have quiet games and teams will definitely target him next season as they know he's our likely goalscoring threat.  Mudryk/Madueke produce flashes of brillance and then nothing....and then there's Sterling who has regressed badly since his City days. 

I feel Nkunku and a decent experienced striker would help us get over the line against those sides that always seem to get away with points against us.  

[Special Juan 27,421]

3 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

I could deffo get on board with this, although I still think there is a player in there still, eze is just great to watch.

Honestly I have no idea what anyone sees in Mudryk, absolute horse shit