Chelsea Transfers

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

What a waste of time. 

[Duppy Conqueror 1,526]

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

By 1986/87, Platini was well spent.

If he had not been hurt and out for half the season in 1978/79, he would have scored 25 or more goals (as a MFer) in 11 straight seasons (the first one was Division 2).

then he turned 30 and went rapidly downhill

was out of football (as a player) 2 years later, at 31

10 year old Chelsea boys in '86 who grew up on John Bumstead didn't really look at such things so clinically..

[Vesper 30,079]

Lavia is a buy now or basically forget him, as his Citeh buyback clause kicks in in 2024

also

there is a 20% sell on fee (that is NOT triggered by the 2024 buyback) that goes to Citeh (which is why SOTON was demanding £50m, as they would only net £40m

and

right NOW, Citeh will also formally be given the opportunity to match any offers submitted for Lavia

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

More on Caicedo ✨🇪🇨

Chelsea late night bid for Moises was up to £100m package.

Liverpool bid is British record on £110m package — accepted by Brighton with immediate effect.

Brighton’s board was clear: player to be sold by end of Thursday to the highest bidder.

 — Fabrizio Romano

[Vesper 30,079]

2 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

No one should blame Brighton. They stuck to their guns yet for three months we fucked around. 
 

Paul Winstanley has blood on his hands. 

and Laurence Stewart

those 2 are why Vivell left

[Vesper 30,079]

2 hours ago, Pizy said:

He’s not a pure DM but gets stuck in and pops up everywhere. He’s a lot like Verratti.

Verratti is not at all that good defensively

[cosmicway 1,333]

They would probably keep raising the price and either settle for the 90 million from Chelsea in the end or sell to a new bidder - if one turned up.
So in the end it was L'pool.
For me it was strange that we offered 90 and shied away from 10 more, but whatever happened it's no use crying over spilled milk.
It was a mistake perhaps to go for Lavia and not allow Liverpool to get him and spend their budget but again could n't somebody else turn up ?
Essentially we were looking for a new Kante so if Tyler or Lavia are not up to this standard we ought to look someplace else now and forget about Caicedo.

[Vesper 30,079]

2 hours ago, Pizy said:

we need to be going around to every big club that’s got a top DM and offering a mega price even if they aren’t technically “available.” Make them say no or make the player say no.

Go to Inter and make an offer for Barella. Go to Bayern and offer for Kimmich. Go to Madrid and offer for Tcho.

Make these clubs say no to £100m when they aren’t doing nearly as well financially as top PL clubs are.

agree

[Blue Armour 4,436]

Just now, Vesper said:

agree

But would the players agree? All 3 are in CL clubs., and are at or near their primes.

 

[Vesper 30,079]

2 hours ago, shrenshah said:

Lavia on second thought should be avoided, we should just get palhinha or Fiorentino luis for the double pivot.

BIG problem

João Palhinha

inured 

and Fulham want insane money  (£90m!!!)

and he only has only one more sub 30yo season after this one

Edited August 11, 2023 by Vesper

[Thor 2,685]

I just can’t be too upset at missing out on Caceido. There have been far better players move for less. 
 

He is 70 percent the player Kante is and going for that much. I dunno. Not fussed. He isn’t a generational type player. 
 

Stop gap - or maybe one of the young guys we have come on well this season. 

[Duppy Conqueror 1,526]

People talk bout us needing a new kante but for me i'd settle for a prime Matic or  Makalele type if we gonna persist with the double pivot.even Kante wasnt ideal for that role,don't really want someone chasing the ball like a spaniel,want someone to sit and guard,sniff out danger and snuff it out. Doesn't even need to be a tackle machine to be an effective DM. Blocking passing lanes is a skill that isnt shown on a stat sheet but important all the same.

[DDA 9,924]

Its over to Santos now. Good luck lad. 

Edited August 11, 2023 by DDA

[Thor 2,685]

5 minutes ago, Duppy Conqueror said:

People talk bout us needing a new kante but for me i'd settle for a prime Matic or  Makalele type if we gonna persist with the double pivot.even Kante wasnt ideal for that role,don't really want someone chasing the ball like a spaniel,want someone to sit and guard,sniff out danger and snuff it out. Doesn't even need to be a tackle machine to be an effective DM. Blocking passing lanes is a skill that isnt shown on a stat sheet but important all the same.

We got Adams for 90 million less. 
 

He makes more tackles and more progressive passes on the field. 
 

Their aerial and ground success is pretty much identical, as well as interceptions and clearances. 
 

I’m just not that fussed… people are acting as if we have lost out on prime Hazard here. 
 

I think there will be 2-3 players in the same vein as Caceido sooner than later in the EPL. Pretty confident we have some talent in our team in the middle that will end up in the same breathe. 

[Simon1991 233]

Ok ok, people deluding themselves here, and saying Caiceido isn't that good, that he is not generational, well he is, insane talent and we messed up.

We move on, but extremely disappointing from our board to let our number 1 target go, and for an extra ~15M£. Man am i pissed..

[Thor 2,685]

He will be prime Zidane level in 2 weeks time. Then potentially Pele in 4. 

[bluesman2610 1,415]

I’m a little bothered we didn’t get him but from what I’ve seen of the players we’ve brought in Santos and Ugo are probably going to be better players. We just need immediate impact we can’t really wait for potential 

[Vesper 30,079]

2 hours ago, Pizy said:

True, they’re very weak defensively at both fullback positions. And unless they sign a new LCB they’re fucked if VVD gets injured again.

here is what they have to choose from

the market is so so small for decent ones who can play NOW

bold are the only ones I rate

only 4, and one is basically impossible

Alessandro Bastoni         crazy hard pull
Nico Schlotterbeck  
Piero Hincapié 
Gonçalo Inácio 
Max Kilman 
Presnel Kimpembe  (Achilles tendon rupture)
Castello Lukeba     only 20yo, massive dice roll
Strahinja Pavlovic
David Hancko 
Aymeric Laporte 
Facundo Medina    
Marcos Senesi 
Arthur Theate   
Alessio Romagnoli 
David Carmo 
Morato 
Abdou Diallo