Vegetable 830 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 I don't really get the endgame here - We are tip-toeing around Brighton in some crazy way. Dragging it forever want give Caicedo a reason to kick a fuss. Make final offer as United made with Mount, take it or leave it. If we actually have plan B, open the talks publicly. I am afraid that all that Tchouaméni thing was made by us, but why not to actually explore it? 85 million is money that gives some possibilities. BTW, Brighton want Colwill AND cash for him? Rotfl. Don't get the Rice talk as well. Following this logic, we shouldn't have let Kova go for anything less than 500 million Pounds then. Blue Armour and Costa19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,395 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 This with Mbappe is some terrible PR to makes Madrid pay the money now instead of taking him for free next year. Some serious game is being played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Brighton hold all the cards. Except they will forcefully (?) retain unhappy key player, that they have shafted twice at this point. If he will drop his head down and kiss their badge after this instead of going ballistic on the club and agents involved, he may not be quite the Chelsea material I'm afraid. Just look what happened to Zyiech after the PSG mess-up. He couldn't be arsed much before, but he clocked out totally after this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 I really dont understand Brighton in this case. Its harming their own business model. Every young player that joins Brighton and aims to go to a bigger club in the future will think twice before signing a contract extension without a reasonable release clause in it if they see how hard it is for Caicedo to actually make the move and how bitchy these cunts are and how valid handshake agreements are at this club. Hope that haunts them in the future. Strike, DH1988 and Vegetable 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon1991 233 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 2 hours ago, LAM09 said: Thanks for the correction. More reason to not believe most of what you read. I read recently that his salary was also heavily incentivized. I can't remember the exact figure, but it was 375k base salary rising up to something like 500/600k with bonuses. LAM09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, Gundalf said: I really dont understand Brighton in this case. Its harming their own business model. Every young player that joins Brighton and aims to go to a bigger club in the future will think twice before signing a contract extension without a reasonable release clause in it if they see how hard it is for Caicedo to actually make the move and how bitchy these cunts are and how valid handshake agreements are at this club. Hope that haunts them in the future. As You said, they are a big club now 🤪 I don't think this stale mate was intentional actually, we for once decided to act like a serious club and stick to reasonable valuation, yet not making any concrete moves anymore and they were hoping for us giving up Colwill first and bidding war on their gem second, but all they heard back was crickets and no other club gave a toss, so not sure if they actually have any plan in place other than pathetic barking about their greatness and Rice costing 100 mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,276 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 bluesman2610 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,633 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, YorkshireBlue said: Right that makes sense now, when you put it like that 250+ is a bargain then eh 🤷🤦 okay then. lets splash like 60m euros or pounds on olise or another guy and pray for 7g+a for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, whats happening said: okay then. lets splash like 60m euros or pounds on olise or another guy and pray for 7g+a for the season. What guarantees 250 mil M'bappe being here for a year peforms anyhow similar to what he does in farmer's league? It's not FIFA / EA footy. What if he gets injured and misses substantial part of season? Would he even try, given he know where he is going after season and want to conserve fitness? Does he fit our tactic anyhow? We dropped any tactical regime for one player already with Lukaku and it didn't quite give us much profit. And do we need a guy holding his club hostage and acting bit like overemphasized version of Zlatan? Football is not one man show and sum of elements is much more effective than individual talent, something we had apparently understood this season and started implementing. No need to blow it out with gamble on Mbappe, which is uttery unrealistic anyway. No serious club is paying 300+ milion for a player for single season, so it leaves only PSG and Saudis in game. Edited July 24, 2023 by Vegetable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mhsc 1,109 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Well, surprised we’ve not gone in with the final bid yet - maybe we are waiting for Caicedo to get more angry and public about this BS. Maybe the rumour that they had agreement he can leave in summer was all BS, in which case this deal is likely not happening as he’s just signed a massively long contract and they’re under no pressure to sell UNLESS that agreement was real. Honestly just get in Lavia or another player and let’s approach this from a position of strength. The depth in MF will be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,069 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Simon1991 said: I read recently that his salary was also heavily incentivized. I can't remember the exact figure, but it was 375k base salary rising up to something like 500/600k with bonuses. Ah, okay. He's probably hitting all those targets on the regular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mário César 1,327 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Sell mkh, Norfolkblue1961 and NikkiCFC 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 619 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 West Ham are interested in Trevoh Chalobah. [@JacobSteinberg] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,507 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, Gundalf said: Sell both to West Ham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Just now, TheHulk said: Sell both to West Ham. And find another CB that late in the transfer window? Clubs will fuck us again, asking for 80m for fucking Maguire level CBs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,327 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 We need to keep chalobah bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,988 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Amrabat will definitely be going to United now apparently. So that’s one less fall back option if Caicedo doesn’t come. That’s an annoyingly solid signing for them. Amrabat + Casemiro in a big game will be hell to play through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pizy said: Amrabat will definitely be going to United now apparently. So that’s one less fall back option if Caicedo doesn’t come. That’s an annoyingly solid signing for them. Amrabat + Casemiro in a big game will be hell to play through. Not sold von Amrabat tbh. He was great at the WC, but so was Ziyech. His league ratings and stats are very average, wasnt even a starter before last season and even last season he wasnt a nr1 fix starter, only having 11 league games with 90 mins, so having 1 average season at Fiorentina, naah. Norfolkblue1961 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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