DDA 9,946 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 31 minutes ago, Clockwork said: Lol at the Saudi “concerns” from the media, there are two freaking clubs owned Saudi and UAE, soon another by Qatar when they take over United. What is this nonsense? It's Chelsea mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,958 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 That we’d start seeing some moves made official today. 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 603 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Chelsea are among those keeping tabs on Robert Sanchez's situation at Brighton. The Blues have an interest in Sanchez, and he could be the ideal successor for Edouard Mendy.The Blues hold an interest in Sanchez, and he could be the ideal successor for Edouard Mendy. [@CParkerTurner] I just don't believe it how on earth Sanchez is so highly prized by us the guy has been ousted by Jason Steele and we are of course financing Brighton's next outstanding transfer of Bart Verbruggen!!!!🤢🤢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,287 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I don't like it DH1988, mkh, Vesper and 1 other 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, DDA said: It's Chelsea mate. I know, but those clubs are literally state owned by by those countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Clockwork said: I know, but those clubs are literally state owned by by those countries. I swear do these reporters even stop and think? How are these Saudi clubs saving us for FFP when Mendy, Ziyech, Koulibaly and Aubameyang will likely have us suffer a profit loss on each considering the quoted prices? We are not breaking even on any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said: I swear do these reporters even stop and think? How are these Saudi clubs saving us for FFP when Mendy, Ziyech, Koulibaly and Aubameyang will likely have us suffer a profit loss on each considering the quoted prices? We are not breaking even on any of them. Someone posted a table of break-even transfer values of all our players if we wanted them to be ffp-neutral and they weren't that high at all. I don't really understand how it's counted, but the precieved loss may not matter at the end of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,820 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,486 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, mkh said: Chelsea are among those keeping tabs on Robert Sanchez's situation at Brighton. The Blues have an interest in Sanchez, and he could be the ideal successor for Edouard Mendy.The Blues hold an interest in Sanchez, and he could be the ideal successor for Edouard Mendy. [@CParkerTurner] I just don't believe it how on earth Sanchez is so highly prized by us the guy has been ousted by Jason Steele and we are of course financing Brighton's next outstanding transfer of Bart Verbruggen!!!!🤢🤢 Get Mamardashvili and stop this madness. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Vegetable said: Someone posted a table of break-even transfer values of all our players if we wanted them to be ffp-neutral and they weren't that high at all. I don't really understand how it's counted, but the precieved loss may not matter at the end of the day. Telegraph is saying we are looking at roughly £50m from Koulibaly, Aubameyang, Ziyech, and Mendy. The remaining book value for all 4 is £55m. There is no profit. We are either taking a loss or having a neutral balance for this years FFP, so again, why is there this idea Saudi clubs are saving us from FFP? Edited June 19, 2023 by MoroccanBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mário César said: 30M€ its a little poor What did people expect though? We need to sell players. We cannot demand excessive sums and clubs know that. Been saying this for months now we will lose good quality players for lower prices. If any of these Saudi deals collapse for Koulibaly, Mendy and Ziyech though we are pretty fucked as it sounds like they are given us decent fees for players nobody else wants to pay for. There is also no way United will pay what we want for Mount and I am doubtful that Arsenal will pay €80m euros for Havertz as being reported, I don’t think any clubs that stupid (although we were). Edited June 19, 2023 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,340 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 31 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Telegraph is saying we are looking at roughly £50m from Koulibaly, Aubameyang, Ziyech, and Mendy. The remaining book value for all 4 is £55m. There is no profit. We are either taking a loss or having a neutral balance for this years FFP, so again, why is there this idea Saudi clubs are saving us from FFP? Zero is better than minus. KK would be unmovable without Saudis. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Zero is better than minus. KK would be unmovable without Saudis. Yep. Getting rid of K2, Auba, Ziyech and Mendy at break-even values would decrease squad costs by around £50-60M/y including wages and amortisations so even if there was no actual 'book profit' being made with these deals, the savings alone would provide a gigantic FFP boost going forward. Reddish-Blue, Vegetable, MoroccanBlue and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, Jype said: Yep. Getting rid of K2, Auba, Ziyech and Mendy at break-even values would decrease squad costs by around £50-60M/y including wages and amortisations so even if there was no actual 'book profit' being made with these deals, the savings alone would provide a gigantic FFP boost going forward. Hadn't thought about that. Still, the talking point from these reports are Saudi clubs over spending on these Chelsea players when they aren't even breaking even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon1991 233 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Hadn't thought about that. Still, the talking point from these reports are Saudi clubs over spending on these Chelsea players when they aren't even breaking even. I would understand other clubs complaining if let's say we were to get 50M£ for Ziyech or K2, but the amounts being discussed seem to be aligned with market value for those players. The big obstacle we had was moving those players with their respective wages. That is a totally different matter, and that's between the players and the Saudi clubs. People are just envious it's happening to us and not their club that's all :D. Magic Lamps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,512 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Hadn't thought about that. Still, the talking point from these reports are Saudi clubs over spending on these Chelsea players when they aren't even breaking even. They're likely referring to the wage packets that these players are going to be getting (sort of like Oscar's move out of nowhere to China). The transfer fees were never going to be more than 15-20 million each as no other European clubs want to buy these players outright. KK's only interest has come from a cheap loan from Inter, even Juventus weren't that keen on paying his wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,512 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said: What did people expect though? We need to sell players. We cannot demand excessive sums and clubs know that. Been saying this for months now we will lose good quality players for lower prices. If any of these Saudi deals collapse for Koulibaly, Mendy and Ziyech though we are pretty fucked as it sounds like they are given us decent fees for players nobody else wants to pay for. There is also no way United will pay what we want for Mount and I am doubtful that Arsenal will pay €80m euros for Havertz as being reported, I don’t think any clubs that stupid (although we were). I think with Mount & Havertz, the problem is, there is no bidding war and that's giving all the power to United & Arsenal. If other clubs were in for these players (like Rice at West Ham), they would have to up their bid but right now the ball is in their court. United's final offer could be 50 million for Mount and we may end up having to accept rather than watch him leave on a free next season. Similar with Havertz, Arsenal don't really have to go that high, they could say 55-60 million is their final offer for Havertz and if Bayern aren't keen to jump in, do we really keep another unhappy player at the club? OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said: Zero is better than minus. KK would be unmovable without Saudis. A Muslim player wants to move to a Muslim country near at the end of his career while getting one last pay check. Saudi is spending big on players, we are taking advantage of that. Just like when China was spending big years ago. Right time, right place. ‘if this was a situation where only our players were moving to Saudi Arabia, that would have been strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 And yet no uproar on Arsenal spending nearly 200m on Timbers, Havertz, and Rice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 The pitch is pretty awful but his link up play is still really clean in terms of both technique and game intelligence to bring others into play. This is all I ask for as a minimum from a striker. 👌 DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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