Mário César 1,326 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 we need to sell kepa and mendy to get onana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,272 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 4 hours ago, milka said: David Raya (free agent) and even Meslier (cheap if Leeds relegation) will be better than another high-prize money goalkeeper . no more short Spanish keepers! (Raya) mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turgi 71 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 On 06/05/2023 at 01:39, milka said: We are the dumbest club on earth. Why getting Onana last year on a free if you could get him this summer for 50ish million NikkiCFC, Vesper and OneMoSalah 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,513 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 9 hours ago, turgi said: We are the dumbest club on earth. Why getting Onana last year on a free if you could get him this summer for 50ish million Maybe we can still get him on a free with Lukaku going in the other direction. Lukaku really seems to want to stay in Italy with Inter...and if we're that keen on Onana, might as well try to make a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Is Onana even better than Mendy? Really hope we go after Ugarte. Good ball winner and passer of the ball. Will complement Enzo well and a good Argentina/Uruguay dynamic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,069 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: Maybe we can still get him on a free with Lukaku going in the other direction. Lukaku really seems to want to stay in Italy with Inter...and if we're that keen on Onana, might as well try to make a deal. That isn't a good deal. Onana is another GK that is riddled with mistakes, which is something we've had to put up with enough during Mendy's run. OneMoSalah and mkh 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 We shouldn’t buy a GK unless they are a big upgrade over what we have. Kepa is very unpopular here, but he is not bad. Is he a great GK? No, the next goalkeeper should be a level above or might as well stick with what you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 5 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Is Onana even better than Mendy? Sounded out my AC Milan friend and he thinks he's very good. Maignan but not quite as good to summarise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,983 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 So looks like we are interested in Toney. If I could be assed, it would be self serving of me to find where I recommended this guy back when Brentford were in the Championship.. Where does he stand currently with the betting scandal... is a lengthy ban imminent? It would be very Chelsea to buy a much needed striker knowing he is about to be banned for 6months or so. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Toney, Onana… Maybe call Mutu as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, Vegetable said: Toney, Onana… Maybe call Mutu as well. Toney would be Chelseas best striker since Diego left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 1 hour ago, DDA said: So looks like we are interested in Toney. If I could be assed, it would be self serving of me to find where I recommended this guy back when Brentford were in the Championship.. Where does he stand currently with the betting scandal... is a lengthy ban imminent? It would be very Chelsea to buy a much needed striker knowing he is about to be banned for 6months or so. I'll put on record now the next big player to crop up from a promoted side. Scott Twine. DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,745 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Clockwork said: We shouldn’t buy a GK unless they are a big upgrade over what we have. Kepa is very unpopular here, but he is not bad. Is he a great GK? No, the next goalkeeper should be a level above or might as well stick with what you have. This. De Gea made a blunder that Kepa would have been shat on for. In fact, he has made plenty more blunders than Kepa and yet Man U are far ahead of us. Our keeper situation isn't ideal, but it is absolutely fine. We could win the league with someone like Kepa in goal - no problems. We'd have more nervy moments but we could still win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 32 minutes ago, Thor said: This. De Gea made a blunder that Kepa would have been shat on for. In fact, he has made plenty more blunders than Kepa and yet Man U are far ahead of us. Our keeper situation isn't ideal, but it is absolutely fine. We could win the league with someone like Kepa in goal - no problems. We'd have more nervy moments but we could still win. De Gea is getting "shat on". We can never win the league win Kepa in goal. He gives far too much encouragement to the opposition. The fact he always concedes these "unsaveable" shots but Mendy hardly ever did is not a coincidence. Vegetable, Reddish-Blue and Blue Armour 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tomo said: De Gea is getting "shat on". We can never win the league win Kepa in goal. He gives far too much encouragement to the opposition. The fact he always concedes these "unsaveable" shots but Mendy hardly ever did is not a coincidence. It become a common occurrence with Mendy too. We were playing our best football when we had Timo, Kai, and Mount upfront. They worked extremely hard defensively which gave the defenders less opportunities for these world class shots. No coincidence it became more common last season. Reality is players at this level with the space, can score unsaveable goals with the opportunities given. Is Ederson actually a good shot stopping GK? He is fantastic for Pep style. Btw i don’t have complete endorsement of Kepa, i just think he is solid, we may need a better GK to win the title. Is Onana that? Edited May 8, 2023 by Clockwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) How has Aurélien Tchouaméni Played this season? I know most of you were disappointed we didn’t sign him. Edited May 8, 2023 by Clockwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Clockwork said: It become a common occurrence with Mendy too. We were playing our best football when we had Timo, Kai, and Mount upfront. They worked extremely hard defensively which gave the defenders less opportunities for these world class shots. No coincidence it became more common last season. Reality is players at this level with the space, can score unsaveable goals with the opportunities given. Is Ederson actually a good shot stopping GK? He is fantastic for Pep style. Btw i don’t have complete endorsement of Kepa, i just think he is solid, we may need a better GK to win the title. Is Onana that? I agree that we used to play with tight lines and that helped in all areas including the GK. On the other hand, Kepa also played under those conditions, and showed the same weaknesses; he has been VERY consistent since joining--that's not the issue. His glaring weakness is reach: that's why he concedes so much from long range. He's just smaller than Mendy for ex, who has better reach. Suppose folks also spotted his incorrect arm posture and movement, but he has prob been working on that. While I agree that Mendy had a run of poor form (+ injuries), the issue I have with Kepa is that his normal/best is nowhere near good enough. I don't think it's very hard to upgrade on him either. We did that w/ Mendy and it worked very well for some time. If you consider where Kepa was playing, and how/when we acquired him, it is really no accident he turned out not being good enough at this level. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,513 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 10 hours ago, Thor said: This. De Gea made a blunder that Kepa would have been shat on for. In fact, he has made plenty more blunders than Kepa and yet Man U are far ahead of us. Our keeper situation isn't ideal, but it is absolutely fine. We could win the league with someone like Kepa in goal - no problems. We'd have more nervy moments but we could still win. Simply put, no, we couldn't. De Gea is getting 'shat on' because he's getting 375k a week and his form has dropped out completely. Kepa has too many mistakes in him to be part of a title winning side, he's basically the Spanish equivalent of Pickford (i.e. generally good but due to lack of size gets found out in corners and long range strikes). Remember that we used to have Cech/Courtois in goal for our title winning sides and we went from that to Kepa (who was only wanted by Real Madrid as a Spanish backup as he had a 15 million release clause in his Bilbao contract....it's a shame we got so desperate for a keeper that we decided to pay 70 million for Kepa, he'll go down in history as the worst GK signing based on transfer fee). robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,513 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 8 hours ago, Clockwork said: It become a common occurrence with Mendy too. We were playing our best football when we had Timo, Kai, and Mount upfront. They worked extremely hard defensively which gave the defenders less opportunities for these world class shots. No coincidence it became more common last season. Reality is players at this level with the space, can score unsaveable goals with the opportunities given. Is Ederson actually a good shot stopping GK? He is fantastic for Pep style. Btw i don’t have complete endorsement of Kepa, i just think he is solid, we may need a better GK to win the title. Is Onana that? Put it this way, if you put Kepa as the starting keeper in any of the top 6 PL clubs, I would be shocked if they weren't worse off in the PL standings right now. The only keeper in the top 6 who isn't an "upgrade" on Kepa is his Spanish team-mate De Gea. Every other keeper would walk into our XI right now. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,069 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: Put it this way, if you put Kepa as the starting keeper in any of the top 6 PL clubs, I would be shocked if they weren't worse off in the PL standings right now. The only keeper in the top 6 who isn't an "upgrade" on Kepa is his Spanish team-mate De Gea. Every other keeper would walk into our XI right now. Lloris is an upgrade? He and De Gea have made the most errors resulting in goals this season. Edited May 8, 2023 by LAM09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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