NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, Hashishi said: How will man city points deduction affect us? We will finish 8th instead of 9th place 🙌 Reddish-Blue, nyikolajevics, OhForAGreavsie and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,104 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, Hashishi said: How will man city points deduction affect us? It wont happen. They will wriggle out of it or it’ll be a fine. Plus even if they got a point deduction not gonna improve our chances of making the top 4. We need to do that by improving ourselves. Vegetable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 It’s going to take YEARS of appeals and lawsuits before anything comes of the City situation. From what I’ve seen a lot of these charges relate to their dodgy sponsorships over the years which have been blindingly obvious for a decade. It’s insane that for years City’s owners have been able to sponsor the club with companies they own or are connected with directly. Likewise PSG. I don’t think this has anything to do with their actual transfer spending so this isn’t something we as Chelsea supporters need to worry about. This is about accounting breaches I think. The idea that Man City, a club with nowhere NEAR the global following of the other Big 6, has the highest revenue in world football in a legitimate way is laughable. Their dodgy ass sponsorships drastically over inflate those figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: It wont happen. They will wriggle out of it or it’ll be a fine. Plus even if they got a point deduction not gonna improve our chances of making the top 4. We need to do that by improving ourselves. They have been charged with 100 breaches. This is unprecedented. I think they won't escape with a fine this time. It might be a points deduction or even relegation. They will want to set an example with them. Pep and Halaand to Chelsea. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,765 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 The can't even appeal the CAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,997 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hashishi said: They have been charged with 100 breaches. This is unprecedented. I think they won't escape with a fine this time. It might be a points deduction or even relegation. They will want to set an example with them. Pep and Halaand to Chelsea. So based on the last days we can easily sack Potter, as we can choose between Klopp and Pep 😂 OhForAGreavsie, Superblue, Vesper and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 I haven't really looked into too much detail with this, but the general theme I'm getting from the charges relate to (1) over inflated sponsorship deals from 'related' parties or sponsorship deals from fictitious parties, and (2) treatment of certain operating costs in their books which looks like it includes how certain remuneration to players and staff is treated and I am also assuming how they have treated certain operational costs as some are dismissed for the purpose of passing FFP and Premier League financial rules. If this is the case, this isn't simply breaching FFP rules and a slap on the wrist. This is high level fraud, with over 100 charges made against them. I don't follow rugby but I understand a couple of years ago that Saracens were found guilty of something similar where they were treating salaries in a different way to 'beat' the salary cap rules. Despite being one of the best and biggest teams in Europe with a number of England internationals, they were relegated to the second tier. Depending on just how serious this digs, and if the Premier League want to make a real example out of a club in order to prevent similar happening again (especially with Newcastle's ownership now and potential talk of further Arab investment in the future), it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that they are relegated or hit with a points deduction severe enough to relegate them. This isn't United or Liverpool, or even Chelsea or Arsenal. Despite the wealth and recent success, City aren't much bigger than Spurs as a worldwide brand which is why it's been so ridiculous to see them topping turnover tables recently ahead of the likes of United and Madrid. There is absolutely no way their turnover should be that much higher than ours either, simple common sense should tell you all of this. OhForAGreavsie and Fernando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pizy said: It’s insane that for years City’s owners have been able to sponsor the club with companies they own or are connected with directly. Likewise PSG. meet Chelsea's new shirt main sponsors, with a fat £2.5 billion 10 year contract lololol Edited February 6, 2023 by Vesper OhForAGreavsie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,146 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 28 minutes ago, Superblue said: I haven't really looked into too much detail with this, but the general theme I'm getting from the charges relate to (1) over inflated sponsorship deals from 'related' parties or sponsorship deals from fictitious parties, and (2) treatment of certain operating costs in their books which looks like it includes how certain remuneration to players and staff is treated and I am also assuming how they have treated certain operational costs as some are dismissed for the purpose of passing FFP and Premier League financial rules. If this is the case, this isn't simply breaching FFP rules and a slap on the wrist. This is high level fraud, with over 100 charges made against them. I don't follow rugby but I understand a couple of years ago that Saracens were found guilty of something similar where they were treating salaries in a different way to 'beat' the salary cap rules. Despite being one of the best and biggest teams in Europe with a number of England internationals, they were relegated to the second tier. Depending on just how serious this digs, and if the Premier League want to make a real example out of a club in order to prevent similar happening again (especially with Newcastle's ownership now and potential talk of further Arab investment in the future), it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that they are relegated or hit with a points deduction severe enough to relegate them. This isn't United or Liverpool, or even Chelsea or Arsenal. Despite the wealth and recent success, City aren't much bigger than Spurs as a worldwide brand which is why it's been so ridiculous to see them topping turnover tables recently ahead of the likes of United and Madrid. There is absolutely no way their turnover should be that much higher than ours either, simple common sense should tell you all of this. Yes it is obvious they are cheating to absolutely everybody, but I assumed they had gotten away with it at this point. Would be strange to me now if they get relegated to the bottom of English football, but totally fair. I assume history wont be re-written in terms of the things they've already won. My gut feeling is they'll somehow get away with it, as they managed to win at CAS (anyone understand how?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mhsc said: as they managed to win at CAS (anyone understand how?) two of the 3 judges on CAS panel had Citeh ties it was a fucking farce, the one who voted against Citeh said it was a ridiculous decision time barred my sweet FA!!!!! Edited February 6, 2023 by Vesper OhForAGreavsie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,666 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Hashishi said: Pep and Halaand to Chelsea. looks like they had a fight, so pick one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Arthur Vermeeren is the one to watch as future midfielder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 31 minutes ago, whats happening said: looks like they had a fight, so pick one. Pep Håland is soon Real or Barca bound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lluubbeenn 188 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 If city get a serious punishment and lose Pep it would be great for the pl. I don't believe any of the other top teams has a structure to consecutively win. It will be a great two - three year span. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, Vesper said: Pep Håland is soon Real or Barca bound Do you think these players can cut it with pep? I don't think we can overhaul the squad again and comply with FFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Like Klopp, I highly doubt Pep would immediately jump to another PL club. It would destroy their legacy with those supporters. Perhaps if they each took a 1 year break they’d be more understanding. But yeah, if Pep in particular expresses even a little interest in coming to Chelsea we should do whatever it takes. Let him choose his own salary if you have to. He could create a juggernaut here just like he has with City. And unlike recent years we do finally have lots of players he could implement his style with. Think about what Pep could do with Nkunku, Mudryk, and Madueke in attack. He’s already worked with Sterling. We’ve got plenty of young CB’s who are comfortable on the ball so we’re set there. Enzo is the ideal Pep midfielder. Both fullback areas are stacked and include numerous players Pep wanted City to sign like Chilly and Cucu. We would 100% need to get him a creative attacking mid like KDB and a new keeper but other than that we have all the tools he’d need. And we also now have the football structure above that he craves with the new sporting and technical directors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,237 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Does this bode well for us though? I can see this hitting us in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 25 minutes ago, Hashishi said: Do you think these players can cut it with pep? I don't think we can overhaul the squad again and comply with FFP. He could work wonders with them. I am convinced of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, DDA said: Does this bode well for us though? I can see this hitting us in a few years. We did not cheat. Not worried. OhForAGreavsie and Blue Armour 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lluubbeenn 188 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Vesper said: We did not cheat. Not worried. They are changing the rules because of us. We obliged by the rules and broke them legally. City apparently/allegedly did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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