Chelsea Transfers

[maxlev 54]

Lots of people still talk about buying player A or B when the ones we have not lived up to expectations. I refuse to believe our problem solely lies in stockpiling talented players. I think it is poor and clueless coaching. Never seen Chelsea fc poor as this in so many years. Even if we bought prime Messi into this team, we would still struggle. Poor game strategy, poor attacking play. In the last 10 matches or more we have struggled to even reach 50:50 ball possession. 

[Blue Armour 4,477]

On 11/11/2022 at 06:03, Strike said:

Its gonna be another chaotic window. I wonder whether Boehly and co will simply lose interest in this project if the next batch of signings also underwhelm.

Too soon for them getting bored.

My worry is about our prospects if we fail to get top 4 this season

If this past window was any indication, there's a lot of doubt regarding the new Chelsea, and where our ambitions lie.,

Finishing outside the top 4 spots would take away some of the assurances we had, and make us less of an appealing option when there's at least 4 other options to choose from in England.

Also, I doubt Potter has the pull that Conte or Mourinho had in terms of getting players to come over.

It could basically lead to a slippery slope - the same hellhole Arsenal and United have been in for the past 5 years.

And no, don't tell me about how well Arsenal are doing this year. They hit the jackpot with the transfer window and hit the purple patch at the right time. The ends don't always justify the means.

[Reddish-Blue 2,517]

1 hour ago, Blue Armour said:

Too soon for them getting bored.

My worry is about our prospects if we fail to get top 4 this season

If this past window was any indication, there's a lot of doubt regarding the new Chelsea, and where our ambitions lie.,

Finishing outside the top 4 spots would take away some of the assurances we had, and make us less of an appealing option when there's at least 4 other options to choose from in England.

Also, I doubt Potter has the pull that Conte or Mourinho had in terms of getting players to come over.

It could basically lead to a slippery slope - the same hellhole Arsenal and United have been in for the past 5 years.

And no, don't tell me about how well Arsenal are doing this year. They hit the jackpot with the transfer window and hit the purple patch at the right time. The ends don't always justify the means.

I think the most recent transfer window should be looked at as pure panic and chaos.  No Director in charge, Manager at odds with his new ownership group and we ended up making our problems worse (50+ million on Cucurella, 60+ million on young Fofana coming off a nasty injury, 30+ million on Sterling who seems to have forgotten how to dribble and 30+ million on Koulibaly who will likely get worse with age). 

It's quite obvious that our lack of a midfield and rubbish attack will cost us a top 4 place this season.  We really were spoiled for that period of time where we had Kante, Kovacic, Jorginho fit and firing in midfield.  Now you look at the lineup of Jorginho - RLC or Kovacic - RLC and you know the game's gone. 

Massive transfer window coming up in the summer, wonder if Boehly & co have the balls to sell off half the squad?

[chelsea_4_eva 1,182]

Cannot stress enough how important it is to buy the right midfielder for our system, hopefully the board will be in place to help us find the right one.

Nothing against RLC but when a player his level has played so many times and minutes for a team like Chelsea, something is not right.

[Special Juan 28,188]

Jorginho will probably get another two year contract

[Strike 7,533]

9 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

Too soon for them getting bored.

And no, don't tell me about how well Arsenal are doing this year. They hit the jackpot with the transfer window and hit the purple patch at the right time. The ends don't always justify the means.

They did have a decent window in 2021 too - signed White, Ramsdale, Odegaard

[Laylabelle 9,539]

9 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

Too soon for them getting bored.

My worry is about our prospects if we fail to get top 4 this season

If this past window was any indication, there's a lot of doubt regarding the new Chelsea, and where our ambitions lie.,

Finishing outside the top 4 spots would take away some of the assurances we had, and make us less of an appealing option when there's at least 4 other options to choose from in England.

Also, I doubt Potter has the pull that Conte or Mourinho had in terms of getting players to come over.

It could basically lead to a slippery slope - the same hellhole Arsenal and United have been in for the past 5 years.

And no, don't tell me about how well Arsenal are doing this year. They hit the jackpot with the transfer window and hit the purple patch at the right time. The ends don't always justify the means.

But we got top 4 and some targets still turned us down and hasn't worked out well for them being in the Champions league either...seeing as now they're not!

Obviously that is a pull factor but also how the club sell it all and approach it. We could still potentially make decent signings if we finish outside but its how the deals are done. 

[Special Juan 28,188]

We won't get top 4, not a chance

[Superblue 6,372]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

They did have a decent window in 2021 too - signed White, Ramsdale, Odegaard

It's a window that they're reaping the rewards from more now compared to last season.

That's why I still retain hopes in particular with Cucurella and Fofana that they will develop into good signings for the club irrespective of the price paid for them, and hopefully this season is a learning curve for players like Broja and Gallagher to kick on too. Neither in my opinion has really fully grasped the opportunities they've been afforded this season, but both are still young and developing and they're having to come in and perform in a struggling side.

Potter has to really get a grip of what he wants to do with this squad and who he wants to take with him moving forward. Everyone else needs moving on and just cut adrift. It sounds cold but some cut throat decisions need to be made with this squad and I do worry a little whether Potter is ready to do that. So far it feels like he's being too nice trying to keep everyone involved and included and what we're ending up with is a heavily rotated side game after game with lifeless, inconsistent performances from a group that look like they've never played a game in their lives together.

 

[Laylabelle 9,539]

1 hour ago, Special Juan said:

We won't get top 4, not a chance

Nahhh that seems obvious at this stage. Unless something drastic happens after the break such as winning and scoring again...

[Tomo 21,751]

2 hours ago, Strike said:

They did have a decent window in 2021 too - signed White, Ramsdale, Odegaard

Am I the only one who doesn't see it with Odegaard? Even last week with Arsenal in full control he was invisible.

Smith Rowe looks comfortably better from what I've seen.

[DDA 9,985]

Big shout but I think we should fuck Mount off. 

Bring in a real quality CM.

Forget the Leaos and Nkunkus as I can't see them coming if we finish outside top 4.

Get the Ivan Toneys and Trossards.

They are better than what we have and are good enough to push us back into the top 4 if managed correctly.

[Tomo 21,751]

4 minutes ago, DDA said:

Big shout but I think we should fuck Mount off. 

Bring in a real quality CM.

Forget the Leaos and Nkunkus as I can't see them coming if we finish outside top 4.

Get the Ivan Toneys and Trossards.

They are better than what we have and are good enough to push us back into the top 4 if managed correctly.

It's a myth it's (that much) harder to attract players without top 4. Maybe if it becomes a theme but for one year I very much doubt it.

Ronaldinho went to a team outside the UCL places three times.

[DDA 9,985]

15 minutes ago, Tomo said:

It's a myth it's (that much) harder to attract players without top 4. Maybe if it becomes a theme but for one year I very much doubt it.

Ronaldinho went to a team outside the UCL places three times.

True... but even if you look at the other projects around us... they look more appealing for top players right now. Who wants to join us with the way we are playing football. Its truly tragic stuff.

[Tomo 21,751]

18 minutes ago, DDA said:

True... but even if you look at the other projects around us... they look more appealing for top players right now. Who wants to join us with the way we are playing football. Its truly tragic stuff.

Things change quickly in football. Casemiro joined United when they were looking like having a Chelsea 15/16 level season.

[Stats 7,156]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

Am I the only one who doesn't see it with Odegaard? Even last week with Arsenal in full control he was invisible.

Smith Rowe looks comfortably better from what I've seen.

I think he is a brilliant player tbh. The one thing he did not really do much was score but his dribbling is top class. Brilliant technique/vision. ESR is criticised a lot by Arsenal fans. He scored a lot of goals last season but they generally feel he goes missing a lot. I was annoyed when Arsenal got him from Real as he was till young and would improve. I think he has been one of their best players. He is the perfect player for Arsenal, especially in terms of getting the ball out wide to Martinelli and Saka.

[Laylabelle 9,539]

4 hours ago, Tomo said:

It's a myth it's (that much) harder to attract players without top 4. Maybe if it becomes a theme but for one year I very much doubt it.

Ronaldinho went to a team outside the UCL places three times.

Exactly that's what mean. Top 4 last year and some of our targets still said no...went to Barcelona and no Champions league for this year. Long as can make ourselves look appealing and there is something to build on that can help as well! 

[DDA 9,985]

 

[Superblue 6,372]

5 hours ago, DDA said:

Big shout but I think we should fuck Mount off. 

A big decision is going to have to be made with him sooner or later due to his contract.

If nothing has been agreed by the end of the season, we would need to look at moving him on with a year left. 

The problem I see with his contract situation is he's likely looking at James' contract as a measuring stick for his own. I don't think he should be paid as much as that. He deserves a significant bump in pay but I'm not sure he should be at the very top of the pay scale here.

I'd rather have him than not here 100% but on the same token, I don't think he should just be a guaranteed starter which he seems to be at the moment. Not sure what Potter's plans are moving forward. I think Mount is better suited in a deeper role in a midfield 3, which allows then 3 attackers ahead of him, and he can then fill into those 3 attackers sometimes if needed.

[Superblue 6,372]

27 minutes ago, DDA said:

 

Centre back in my opinion should be at the low end of our priorities.

Starting to get concerned that there's a lot of talk ramping up again about all sorts of positions except midfield which remains absolutely critical to get sorted out and revamped.