MoroccanBlue 5,384 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 So people are now pretending Zouma wasn't an absolute calamity when he was pressed. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 19 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: Agree with this though Hutchinson is impressing and is possibly above Lewis now in my reckoning. Casadei will have to deal with another suspension after his second 'two yellows equals red' of the season last weekend. Ok, you are right, especially after last evening 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,301 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 17 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: So people are now pretending Zouma wasn't an absolute calamity when he was pressed. His cat agrees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,517 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 19 hours ago, Tomo said: Solid enough defender but when he was tasked with ball playing and ball carrying responsibilities he was all at sea. I agree but forcing a player to do something they are not good at just points to poor man management by the manager in charge. It's like a manager asking a wide player/winger to "track back" or play out of position as a wingback because the manager is too lazy to adapt his tactics to the players at his disposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,517 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 18 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: So people are now pretending Zouma wasn't an absolute calamity when he was pressed. So people are now pretending that Zouma didn't help the defense at all, especially when the opposition would break at pace against us on a counter and Zouma was often the only one trying to make a challenge as Cahill was absolutely cooked by any decent counter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) On 17/10/2022 at 19:47, Vesper said: All time single season most goals (35) by a MFer in topflight, top 10 European league history is hardly 'master of none'. Plus 20 assists, and is already at 10 goals this season. Have you even watched him play to any sort of extensive amount? Nope, those numbers wasn't from midfield. While Nkunku is versatile like Havertz was at Leverkusen, he only look decent as either second striker or no. 10. If we are planning to use him as a winger, might as well sign someone like Kvaratskhelia instead. Edited October 19, 2022 by Blues Forever Magic Lamps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 What do you guys think about Zubimendi? Is he Chelsea-level player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Blues Forever said: Nope, those numbers wasn't from midfield. While Nkunku is versatile like Havertz was at Leverkusen, he only look decent as either second striker or no. 10. If we are planning to use him as a winger, might as well sign someone like Kvaratskhelia instead. I am really not very sold on Nkunku, he screams to me another Budesliga attacker that does well over their because of the space he is afforded like Werner, Sancho, Kai etc. Kvaratskhelia looks more like someone who would adapt quickly in the PL. Edited October 19, 2022 by King Kante laura90, DDA and Clockwork 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 7 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: I agree but forcing a player to do something they are not good at just points to poor man management by the manager in charge. It's like a manager asking a wide player/winger to "track back" or play out of position as a wingback because the manager is too lazy to adapt his tactics to the players at his disposal. What's the alternative we change our system to something which isn't really "the trend" at the top in the present day (hence Mou's decline) to accommodate a good but not great defender? Apart from Lampard all our post Mou managers did manage the situation properly. Conte and Tuchel loaned/sold him at the first avaliable opportunity while Sarri let him go before he even kicked a competitive ball for him. OneMoSalah and Strike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,384 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 8 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: So people are now pretending that Zouma didn't help the defense at all, especially when the opposition would break at pace against us on a counter and Zouma was often the only one trying to make a challenge as Cahill was absolutely cooked by any decent counter. Literally no one said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,889 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: I agree but forcing a player to do something they are not good at just points to poor man management by the manager in charge. It's like a manager asking a wide player/winger to "track back" or play out of position as a wingback because the manager is too lazy to adapt his tactics to the players at his disposal. Being comfortable on the ball is an essential to being a modern day professional footballer though? Even more so as a central defender in this day and age where every Tom, Dick or Harry is a Guardiola acolyte. I mean every half decent team in Europe is proactive with the ball and able to play out to a reasonable degree. So is it really poor man management? Absolutely not. 4 hours ago, King Kante said: I am really not very sold on Nkunku, he screams to me another Budesliga attacker that does well over their because of the space he is afforded like Werner, Sancho, Kai etc. Kvaratskhelia looks more like someone who would adapt quickly in the PL. Kvaratskhelia looks like he could be a good player but again, a lot of people are basing this off of like 15 games from his time in Italy with Napoli. And thats it. Still too early to be entirely convinced that he is the real deal and I think he would be wise to remain at Napoli for another season at least and repeat what he’s doing so far. Although football doesn’t always work like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,301 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 8 hours ago, Blues Forever said: Nope, those numbers wasn't from midfield. While Nkunku is versatile like Havertz was at Leverkusen, he only look decent as either second striker or no. 10. If we are planning to use him as a winger, might as well sign someone like Kvaratskhelia instead. his numbers are off the chain no matter where he is 'officially' listed as playing, stop hating how much have you watched him play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,301 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) delete Edited October 19, 2022 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,985 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 That Kvaratsheilaosijfjdjc fella looks tailor made to play in The Prem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) We lost Haaland through a series of unfortunate coincidences. If Kylian Mbappe is to leave PSG we must sign him. Edited October 20, 2022 by cosmicway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beigl 1,387 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 19 minutes ago, cosmicway said: We lost Haaland through a series of unfortunate coincidences. If Kylian Mbappe is to leave PSG we must sign him. Players of that calibre don´t want to join us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, Beigl said: Players of that calibre don´t want to join us. We are cl winners. Who they want to join ? Edessaikos ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beigl 1,387 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, cosmicway said: We are cl winners. Who they want to join ? Edessaikos ? We are behind Real, Barca, Bayern, United, City, Pool, PSG in the european pecking order. To say otherwise is unrealistic in my view. There is a reason we settled for the likes of Werner and Ziyech in the last few years. Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,092 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 22 hours ago, ulvhedin said: Ok, you are right [about Omari Hutchinson], especially after last evening 😄 Hutchinson isn't giving me sure thing vibes like Reece was at age 18 but he's making encouraging progress and has a chance I'd say. I hope GP includes him in the squad for the League Cup game at City next month. Can't see Hutchinson getting a start but 10/15 mins would be good. I suppose that for him to get on we'd have to be comfortably ahead, or comfortably behind, but if Hutchinson just makes the trip, it'll be a start. Edited October 20, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie Reddish-Blue and Strike 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 48 minutes ago, Beigl said: We are behind Real, Barca, Bayern, United, City, Pool, PSG in the european pecking order. To say otherwise is unrealistic in my view. There is a reason we settled for the likes of Werner and Ziyech in the last few years. Behind Barca I doubt. Also PSG have to face weaker opposition at home and their strength in Europe is yet to be seen. Real, City I would agree and Bayern are always impressive. Pool why ? But it's a question of money really, not current team ratings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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