Chelsea Transfers

[Superblue 6,372]

4 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

 

you on the other hand, extremely overrating Lukaku. Like Tomo said Werner scored 28 league goals in Bundesliga, that is better than Lukaku record at Inter. What makes you think 15-20 goals is guaranteed? Also consider Ciro immobile who scored 36 league goals, could only score 3 goals at Dortmund. 

I think to be fair to Lukaku, you have to take into context that during his career he has played for three different Premier League clubs (not including ourselves) already and averaged around 1 in 2 at all three.

He's then carried a similar goal output on to Inter, so you would probably expect that if he's playing regularly he should be getting us 15-20 league goals.

[Clockwork 1,794]

3 minutes ago, nyikolajevics said:

I wouldn’t say he flopped at United. Scored 42 goals and assisted 13 on 96 matches in Mourinho’s shity United, where he was used as a target man which clearly didn’t suite him.

 

That is some serious revisionism shit. If he wasn’t linked to Chelsea you wouldn’t be saying this nonsense.

 

He flopped, United were overjoyed they were able to recoup most of it. Just like we were when we sold Morata to Athletico Madrid.

[Pizy 18,994]

6 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

 

you on the other hand, extremely overrating Lukaku. Like Tomo said Werner scored 28 league goals in Bundesliga, that is better than Lukaku record at Inter. What makes you think 15-20 goals is guaranteed? Also consider Ciro immobile who scored 36 league goals, could only score 3 goals at Dortmund. 

I mean, if Calvert Lewin and old ass Jamie Vardy can score 15+ and the likes of Ollie Watkins and washed Lacazette can score around 15 I think Lukaku can easily hit that playing in a much better team.

The actual goal scoring is the least of my worries with Rom. It’s everything else (team play, longevity, how his body holds up) that worries me.

[Jype 6,398]

12 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

you on the other hand, extremely overrating Lukaku. Like Tomo said Werner scored 28 league goals in Bundesliga, that is better than Lukaku record at Inter. What makes you think 15-20 goals is guaranteed? Also consider Ciro immobile who scored 36 league goals, could only score 3 goals at Dortmund. 

Lukaku has already scored 113 goals in the Premier League over 7 seasons when he was younger, that's an average of 16 goals a season. I would expect +15 league goals from him even if he hadn't improved at all since his days at WBA/Everton or his overweight Man Utd period.

Immobile has only ever succeeded in Serie A and failed on every transfer outside of his native Italy, so there's a huge difference. At 24yo he had only ever had one great season at Torino before his move to Dortmund where he flopped badly, and then found consistency at Lazio. Maybe he's one of those who gets homesick when he goes away from Italy, or maybe during his spells at Dortmund / Sevilla he just wasn't good enough yet? Either way it's a shit comparison and to this day Lukaku has already shown he's got what it takes to score goals in multiple countries / leagues.

Edited August 3, 2021 by Jype

[Vesper 30,309]

2 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Tonight in a game we can scout Hlozek vs Tchouameni.

Tchouameni just scored a blaster header

he so looks a fucking beast

http://sportyradar.blogspot.com/p/channel-6.html

[sainttourist 68]

Why not do a Giroud and go for Auba or Laca? I think both could do a decent job and bring more of the competition for Werner than completely ditch him. I do not really buy the idea, that we absolutely need main man up front. I think many of our attacking players could improve on numbers this year.
Happy, we have ambitions and money to do things but think Lukaku is not who we need.

[Costa19 858]

We wont stand a chance to sign Haaland next year. Its just impossible when the likes of PSG, Barca and Real will be there. They can offer 400-800k in wages which we never would do or can do. Just look at Griezmann on 800k/week 😵

I guess we really tried for Haaland this summer but since he is impossible now and will be next summer then Lukaku is the next best option and they are kind of similar in their playing styles. Why would people even have Haaland if they talk down Lukakus abilities? They both excel going forward in spaces with their power and speed and can finish with both feets. 

Haaland is younger and probably the better long term alternative but if he is impossible and we are looking at the same kind of striker then Lukaku is the next best choice. 

[Razer Sharp 4]

I'm getting major 2017 transfer window vibes ...  and You just know Man u are loving this and I'd they end up getting Haaland ill be sick to my stomach 

[Mário César 1,343]

3 minutes ago, Hermione said:

Di Marzio - Lukaku would not say no to a transfer to Chelsea

Expected, this man has no pride in him, as soon his wages doubled he changed stance faster than you can say Baba Rahman.

lol?

what is the problem for move to a team for money? Its perfect normal. I would do the same  lol

[nyikolajevics 2,713]

5 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

That is some serious revisionism shit. If he wasn’t linked to Chelsea you wouldn’t be saying this nonsense.

 

He flopped, United were overjoyed they were able to recoup most of it. Just like we were when we sold Morata to Athletico Madrid.

Not at all. I regret we wasted on Lukaku, he could have had long great career here. Also felt bad when we got Morata not him few years ago. Morata’s numbers and performances are nowhere near to Lukaku’s. I would take him back in a heartbeat, rather than Haaland. He is in top of his game, great age, would fit in current team.

[Atomiswave 6,120]

If you can splash 100M on Lukaku, then you can do Håland. Its a win win down the line as well.

[YorkshireBlue 3,300]

5 minutes ago, Hermione said:

He said he is staying at Inter and is happy, now when we offering more he wants to come, I dislike players that come only for the sake of money.

So u don't like 99% of players? 

[Costa19 858]

1 minute ago, Atomiswave said:

If you can splash 100M on Lukaku, then you can do Håland. Its a win win down the line as well.

True. But that is only IF Haaland wants to come.

[Clockwork 1,794]

10 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I think to be fair to Lukaku, you have to take into context that during his career he has played for three different Premier League clubs (not including ourselves) already and averaged around 1 in 2 at all three.

He's then carried a similar goal output on to Inter, so you would probably expect that if he's playing regularly he should be getting us 15-20 league goals.

He won’t be playing regularly for long, I can’t imagine a manager like Tuchel keeps playing Lukaku if he struggles to score. Look how he excluded Tammy. He cares a lot about how a player’s general play. 
 

Lukaku is a terrible fit, i honestly don’t believe these reports. I guess I will be in denial even when the club announces him.

[YorkshireBlue 3,300]

5 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

He won’t be playing regularly for long, I can’t imagine a manager like Tuchel keeps playing Lukaku if he struggles to score. Look how he excluded Tammy. He cares a lot about how a player’s general play. 
 

Lukaku is a terrible fit, i honestly don’t believe these reports. I guess I will be in denial even when the club announces him.

Man City are reportedly trying to buy kane who will cost 150m who is the same age? 

[Costa19 858]

1 minute ago, Clockwork said:

He won’t be playing regularly for long, I can’t imagine a manager like Tuchel keeps playing Lukaku if he struggles to score. Look how he excluded Tammy. He cares a lot about how a player’s general play. 
 

Lukaku is a terrible fit, i honestly don’t believe these reports. I guess I will be in denial even when the club announces him.

But why would we want Haaland if Lukaku is a terrible fit? They are really similar players in the way they are attacking and scoring goals. 

[Tomo 21,751]

I don't know what I find more frustrating, the fact that we're trying to sign Lukaku or that people are suddenly agreeing with me (that we shouldn't sign for the sake of it) purely because we are about to do it.

"Sign someone anyone"

Ok

"No not him"

[YorkshireBlue 3,300]

7 minutes ago, Hermione said:

Havertz and Kante didn't came for the money, many others as well, where does this 99% come from? Some of you don't know how to defend the guy anymore, he clearly said in front of the tv he is staying at Inter, is happy in Milan and never felt happy in England because of the press who abused him, now that money has been put on the table he gives up on all his morals just to grab some more money, this is beyond sad, it's not like the difference in wages will change his lifestyle one bit but he is just a greedy guy.

Players have short careers money talks no matter what job you are in if a company will double my wages am off simple as that 

[MoroccanBlue 5,384]

4 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I don't know what I find more frustrating, the fact that we're trying to sign Lukaku or that people are suddenly agreeing with me (that we shouldn't sign for the sake of it) purely because we are about to do it.

"Sign someone anyone"

Ok

"No not him"

Call them out. 

From what I've seen the vast majority has been Haaland or no one. 

[Jype 6,398]

6 minutes ago, Costa19 said:

Why would people even have Haaland if they talk down Lukakus abilities? 

Haaland is flavor of the month, and like we've seen many times in the past people love flavor of the month players. Last year it was Reguilon instead of Chilwell. 

Haaland is great and odds are by the end of his career he will likely go down as one of the best players of his age group, but I'm having a really hard time figuring out why having Lukaku would all of a sudden be some huge tactical problem for Tuchel to solve or else he'll be shit but then same people think Haaland would fit our team like a glove, even though they're actually quite similar players.

I can understand being turned off by Lukaku on the financial side of things (high fee, high wage, little re-sale value) but what I really don't get is the outright abuse on Lukaku as a player like he's the second coming of Andy Carroll or some shit. The man has scored 305 career goals by age 28 while playing in top leagues since 18 and keeping up the same rate he's likely to reach close to 500 goals overall by the time he retires from the game. Shit players just don't do that.