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11 hours ago, Vesper said:

IF we lose AC (and somehow keep Rudiger)

I have my target

Nico Schlotterbeck

22yo, Freiburg

1.91m, strong, pacey, great instincts, huge leg reach on tackles and blocks, good verts, very solid on the ball

I have just spent a few days watching games (not just clips) of his

REAL DEAL

and A LEFT FOOTER

IMHO best CB in the Bundesliga the first half of the season

going into the Dortmund game, Freiburg had best defence in the league, they had beaten (with Schlotterbeck) Dortmund 2 1 in first game

with no Nico

bye bye, Dortmund ran riot 5 1

he is that impactful

Bayern wants him bad, so that is a potentially big issue

 

 

 

unfortunately the kind of signing we never make.

If Bayern want him, they will probably get him for free next year.

Their pull on German players and the ability to just call free dips on them whenever they want is what has sustained that club for decades.

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It’s actually kind of insane that we’re so far into the window and are not even close to bringing in any cover for either wingback position. It’s as though the club hierarchy just assumed they’d be able to bully Lyon into letting a key player come back to us and had no other plan in case that didn’t work.

How many more times do we have to see Azpi and Alonso get torched down the flanks before we do something? It’s probably going to happen again tomorrow with Lamptey. We going to wait until deadline day and panic loan some shit player?

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1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said:

unfortunately the kind of signing we never make.

If Bayern want him, they will probably get him for free next year.

Their pull on German players and the ability to just call free dips on them whenever they want is what has sustained that club for decades.

Tuchel can change that perhaps

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9 minutes ago, Pizy said:

It’s actually kind of insane that we’re so far into the window and are not even close to bringing in any cover for either wingback position. It’s as though the club hierarchy just assumed they’d be able to bully Lyon into letting a key player come back to us and had no other plan in case that didn’t work.

How many more times do we have to see Azpi and Alonso get torched down the flanks before we do something? It’s probably going to happen again tomorrow with Lamptey. We going to wait until deadline day and panic loan some shit player?

Speaks volumes of the boards footballing intelligence that they don’t think twice dropping 100m on a lazy over the hill striker but are too stingy to spend anything on our most important weak spots 

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9 minutes ago, Pizy said:

It’s actually kind of insane that we’re so far into the window and are not even close to bringing in any cover for either wingback position. It’s as though the club hierarchy just assumed they’d be able to bully Lyon into letting a key player come back to us and had no other plan in case that didn’t work.

How many more times do we have to see Azpi and Alonso get torched down the flanks before we do something? It’s probably going to happen again tomorrow with Lamptey. We going to wait until deadline day and panic loan some shit player?

This is why we need an experienced DoF and capable scouts. 

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13 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Speaks volumes of the boards footballing intelligence that they don’t think twice dropping 100m on a lazy over the hill striker but are too stingy to spend anything on our most important weak spots 

This is a good take in hindsight but at the time the Lukaku signing was sensible and most people were fine with it. Not all, but most. The rest of the squad looked great but were missing an elite goal scorer. Lukaku was the best goal scorer available. Haaland was impossible and a player like Vlahovic was probably seen as too big of a risk coming off of 1 breakout season. Not as though there were 5 great options and we chose Lukaku.
 

We could’ve waited a year I suppose, but Tuchel and the club clearly thought we were right in the cusp of being a title winning side but needed to act right away by getting a striker immediately. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Pizy said:

This is a good take in hindsight but at the time the Lukaku signing was sensible and most people were fine with it. Not all, but most. The rest of the squad looked great but were missing an elite goal scorer. Lukaku was the best goal scorer available. Haaland was impossible and a player like Vlahovic was probably seen as too big of a risk coming off of 1 breakout season. Not as though there were 5 great options and we chose Lukaku.
 

We could’ve waited a year I suppose, but Tuchel and the club clearly thought we were right in the cusp of being a title winning side but needed to act right away by getting a striker immediately. 

 

It's not hindsight though. Me, @King Kante and others called it.

Nothing he has pulled so far has surprised me, from his disappearing acts in big games to highly inflated opinion of himself.

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we clearly need to cut out some deadwood, why we don't start to do it in this transfer window? 
at least 2 of them could be sold or go out right now:
barkley, RLC, ziyech. 
In the summer we will think to the others.
like buys we need 1 striker, and 1 or 2 wing or number 10)
My ideas could be:
adeyemi
joao felix
and maybe dembele that is on free.
Also frank de jong would be amazing.
 

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46 minutes ago, Tomo said:

It's not hindsight though. Me, @King Kante and others called it.

Nothing he has pulled so far has surprised me, from his disappearing acts in big games to highly inflated opinion of himself.

That’s why I said most, not all. I definitely do remember you and others being against the move. But almost every top pundit, former player, and the people who covered him for a living all agreed that it was a great signing at the time. There’s a reason we were a popular pick for the league title and I remember Neville saying he’d be top scorer.

A lot of evidence suggested that he was a good fit. But there was also evidence that he might not be and that has turned out to be the case.

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17 minutes ago, Pizy said:

That’s why I said most, not all. I definitely do remember you and others being against the move. But almost every top pundit, former player, and the people who covered him for a living all agreed that it was a great signing at the time. There’s a reason we were a popular pick for the league title and I remember Neville saying he’d be top scorer.

A lot of evidence suggested that he was a good fit. But there was also evidence that he might not be and that has turned out to be the case.

Pundits are just generally lazy, listening to them talk about it their train of thought was basically "he's the poacher who finish what they create"  without realizing to accomodate him you take out an integral piece of the creative puzzle.

Us fans (and i include myself in this as the Arsenal and Villa games sucked me into wondering if i was overeacting) should be ignored during the honeymoon period of a new signing, what will piss you off after a year is spun as a positive in the early days.

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3 hours ago, Pizy said:

That’s why I said most, not all. I definitely do remember you and others being against the move. But almost every top pundit, former player, and the people who covered him for a living all agreed that it was a great signing at the time. There’s a reason we were a popular pick for the league title and I remember Neville saying he’d be top scorer.

A lot of evidence suggested that he was a good fit. But there was also evidence that he might not be and that has turned out to be the case.

Of course they said that. They just looked at the numbers and immediately thought he will just slot in easily and we will become perfect instantly. It's the same mindset that the board also seem to have when it comes to signings.

And the same Gary Neville has turned around and said Lukaku now looks like the Lukaku of Man United just two weeks ago.

 

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5 hours ago, Tomo said:

It's not hindsight though. Me, @King Kante and others called it.

Nothing he has pulled so far has surprised me, from his disappearing acts in big games to highly inflated opinion of himself.

At least 50% of the forum were against Lukaku while I among others have always called for Alonso’s sale. When we failed to get hakimi,  who would have been huge given out I juries, I we were not in the market for an alternative again and now stand here with the same problem again. 

 I genuinely believe that if you put a selection of fans from here in charge of the footballing side of only scouting and transfer decisions alone we would probably not have a worse squad. 

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I believe the problem with our scouting and tranfer decisors is that see too much to stats or team performance, and not to the skills and ability of player! with this mindset in the last few years we have brough in lukaku, werner, ziyech, bakayoko, drinkwater.... somewhere like 280M euro wasted.

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