Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Bakayoko was the top rated DM in Ligue 1 the summer we bought him. Kounde is just not made for PL can't believe no one else sees this. He was good but not top rated, Fabinho at that time was rated higher than Bakayoko. Alabama 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,369 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Are they? weird no one else except Spuds actually made a bid for him. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-city-kounde-transfer-news-19270079 City tried hard for him last summer. Monchi explained here why they rejected great offer. Kounde also said that he spoke to Pep. They also wanted KK. Ruben Dias was only a 3rd option and now player of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Blues Forever said: He was good but not top rated, Fabinho at that time was rated higher than Bakayoko. maybe. same with kounde. there are probably higher rated cbs in la liga as well. personally for me eder militao, alaba, gimenez and possibly diego carlos are better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,369 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Simeu to Southampton confirmed. Chelsea gets 1,5m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 at least kounde is already proficient in shithousery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Going to be interesting how Kounde fairs here. On the ball he is brilliant, and from the glimpses I've seen he can read the game decently well. His height obviously a question mark but his defensive statistics in aerial duels look promising. Will see if that translates in England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styl1994 188 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Simeu to Southampton confirmed. Chelsea gets 1,5m. Was he highly rated didn’t hear a lot of buzz about him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,985 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 As I said a little while ago, being great in the air isn’t all about height. Thiago Silva is on the short side for a CB and he has been fantastic in the air his whole career due to his superb positioning, his athleticism, and his great vertical leap. Koundé is shorter than Silva but he’s got all the other tools to overcome that. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: maybe. same with kounde. there are probably higher rated cbs in la liga as well. personally for me eder militao, alaba, gimenez and possibly diego carlos are better Except for Eder Militao...the guy is shit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Styl1994 said: Was he highly rated didn’t hear a lot of buzz about him? Standard English tall and strong CB. Not a real loss if Mbuyamba lives up to his potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Going to be interesting how Kounde fairs here. On the ball he is brilliant, and from the glimpses I've seen he can read the game decently well. His height obviously a question mark but his defensive statistics in aerial duels look promising. Will see if that translates in England. 2 minutes ago, Pizy said: As I said a little while ago, being great in the air isn’t all about height. Thiago Silva is on the short side for a CB and he has been fantastic in the air his whole career due to his superb positioning, his athleticism, and his great vertical leap. Koundé is shorter than Silva but he’s got all the other tools to overcome that. I don't doubt that he is a good footballer but I just don't see him excelling in PL. You just can not teach height. maybe his jumping or heading technique can compensate some of it but sometimes you just dont have the time to go for a leap and just need to stand there block a ball that wil evade you when you are too short. or you need the strnegth to push a player off it. In PL strength and height is so important, a fun sized, weak, short CB will not cut it no matter how good he looks in other leagues Maybe he could become a world class right back or DM, he surely is good on the ball, decent movement and reading of the game but even Alex Ferguson did not want gary neville as a permanent cb cos he is just as short as kounde. this will simply not work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: Which wouldn't have been in the last couple of hours. So once again we have a situation where we've heard next to no links with a player, nothing from the trusted, reliable news sources and then when things do break they are already seemingly in an advanced situation. It's the exact reason why people shouldn't be getting so worked up about the lack of news and links in recent weeks. Yea, some journo tweeted that talks over Koundé transfer have been ongoing for two weeks now and today's the first we're hearing of it. 3 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Who the hell is that guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styl1994 188 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Who is this random guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,369 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Jype said: Who the hell is that guy? 6 minutes ago, Styl1994 said: Who is this random guy. Worked for Daily Mail, now working closely with Sky 🤣 Edited July 27, 2021 by NikkiCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,369 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: I don't doubt that he is a good footballer but I just don't see him excelling in PL. You just can not teach height. maybe his jumping or heading technique can compensate some of it but sometimes you just dont have the time to go for a leap and just need to stand there block a ball that wil evade you when you are too short. or you need the strnegth to push a player off it. In PL strength and height is so important, a fun sized, weak, short CB will not cut it no matter how good he looks in other leagues Maybe he could become a world class right back or DM, he surely is good on the ball, decent movement and reading of the game but even Alex Ferguson did not want gary neville as a permanent cb cos he is just as short as kounde. this will simply not work. Azpi is same height and is playing this position for years. Do you agree that RCB is best role for Azpi over RB or LB or RWB or DM? Walker also. So you think Azpi height 178cm is not a problem but Kounde height 178cm is a problem? And I wonder will he bench Azpi from day one? Edited July 27, 2021 by NikkiCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, Alabama said: Except for Eder Militao...the guy is shit... How can someone who displaced Ramos is shit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Monday: *Fans on TC giving up on the club signing players* Tuesday: 3 hours ago, Jype said: Yea, here's Romano tweet about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,270 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, Artandur said: That is simply not true yes it is other than an argument between Fabinho and Baka, But Fabinho played much higher then (at Monaco), was not at all a true DMF then 2016-17 Ligue 1 DMF's rated over £10m (almsot all Ligue 1 DMF's were under £4m, many under £1m Grzegorz Krychowiak (massive bust at PSG and the rest of his career has been shit) Bakayoko Fabinho Maxime Gonalons Lyon (3rd best, but we were not going to buy a DMF who turned 29yothe season we bought him, roma did, the same window we boght Bkakyoko, and Gonalons career basically ended asa full time starter, he was a complete bust, worse than Bakayoko) that is all of them December 25, 2017 http://b90m.com/features/player-ratings/ranked-europes-top-25-defensive-midfielders-end-2016-17 Highest ranked Ligue 1 DMF was Bakayoko Magic Lamps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura90 556 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) This Kounde looks better than everyone we signed in 2017. Way better. He is ball playing CB, albeit short one. Question remains how good he will preform in PL. Means something if Pep wanted him. What worries me is that pursuing this fella means we will continue with back five. Our attacking talents need to improve massively, like: Havertz from 4 to around 20 Timo from 6 to around 18 Mount from 4 - around 15 Pulisic from 4 to around 12 Ziyech from 2 to around 10 and we will be fine. Striker. Even if we get one, I will believe when he starts scoring goals. Edited July 27, 2021 by laura90 Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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