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BVB demanding 65m for gittens is a joke. Probably like 15% PL tax and 20% stupid ‚soccer‘ investor tax. They want him gone and everyone know it. Gittens has hardly featured under Kovac cos his position does not exist in his system and does not fit BVBs way of attacking play.
 

To me gittens looks a lot like a somewhat technically cleaner madueke with even less awareness and link up ability but having hit a purple patch. The sancho comparison is a bit lazy, they are very different players.
Gittens has a lot of pace and power obviously. However, if you look at his highlight reel, it is all sprints, dribbles, shots. He seldom looks up to spot a better placed teammate. Pure one route footballer. Everything he contributes comes from solo actions leading up to a finish or attempted assist. his link up play and vision is quite underdeveloped. He has almost zero value in slow short-pass build up play. Against a deep bus he might be able to skip past a defender occasionally and get a shot off but don’t expect him to provide perfect crosses or defence splitting passes. 
The upside is, he is super direct, great on the counter, won’t frustrate  ppl to death by avoiding risks and delaying to pull the trigger like so many of our players. 

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46 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

BVB demanding 65m for gittens is a joke. Probably like 15% PL tax and 20% stupid ‚soccer‘ investor tax. They want him gone and everyone know it. Gittens has hardly featured under Kovac cos his position does not exist in his system and does not fit BVBs way of attacking play.
 

To me gittens looks a lot like a somewhat technically cleaner madueke with even less awareness and link up ability but having hit a purple patch. The sancho comparison is a bit lazy, they are very different players.
Gittens has a lot of pace and power obviously. However, if you look at his highlight reel, it is all sprints, dribbles, shots. He seldom looks up to spot a better placed teammate. Pure one route footballer. Everything he contributes comes from solo actions leading up to a finish or attempted assist. his link up play and vision is quite underdeveloped. He has almost zero value in slow short-pass build up play. Against a deep bus he might be able to skip past a defender occasionally and get a shot off but don’t expect him to provide perfect crosses or defence splitting passes. 
The upside is, he is super direct, great on the counter, won’t frustrate  ppl to death by avoiding risks and delaying to pull the trigger like so many of our players. 

Yeah, the upside is clear and you can see why Maresca would be interested. But again, he’s someone you’d take a chance on for cheap so that if he flops you can easily move him on. To pay huge money for Gittens is terrible business. 

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While I get the skepticism of Gittens I do laugh when players like Gordon and Rodgers are talked up as alternatives given the reactions if we went for them when they went to Newcastle and Villa would have been even worse (well was in the formers case).

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7 minutes ago, Tomo said:

While I get the skepticism of Gittens I do laugh when players like Gordon and Rodgers are talked up as alternatives given the reactions if we went for them when they went to Newcastle and Villa would have been even worse (well was in the formers case).

I feel like the price tag has a lot to do with it. People weren't pleased when we were linked with Gordon years ago, but Rogers for less than £10m wouldn't have been an issue for most. Based on his rise at Villa, it would have proven to be a very astute piece of business. 

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16 minutes ago, Tomo said:

While I get the skepticism of Gittens I do laugh when players like Gordon and Rodgers are talked up as alternatives given the reactions if we went for them when they went to Newcastle and Villa would have been even worse (well was in the formers case).

Agree with Gordon - Tuchel wanted him and the forum was up in arms about signing him but many wanted Rogers to be the Villa player included in the Maatsen deal.

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1 hour ago, Special Juan said:

Pedro would be an Nkuknu replacement but it sounds like Newcastle have taken an early march on him and we are sniffing rather than talking

 

Or just bring back Pedro from Lazio, he's still got it! 

I am not overwhelmed by Gittens either, but I will be happy over anyone but Garnacho.. Him we should avoid at any cost.

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1 hour ago, Tomo said:

While I get the skepticism of Gittens I do laugh when players like Gordon and Rodgers are talked up as alternatives given the reactions if we went for them when they went to Newcastle and Villa would have been even worse (well was in the formers case).

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It’s even clearer now that we 100% need 2 new attackers this window with Mudryk now confirmed to likely never play for Chelsea again, Sancho gone, and Nkunku surely to follow.

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On 01/06/2025 at 11:01, Vesper said:

please let this happen:

Arsenal

https://thedailybriefing.io/i/164900027/arsenal

  • Myles Lewis-Skelly to Real Madrid? The youngster has still not signed a new contract with the Gunners. Full Story here!

 

On 01/06/2025 at 11:20, Stats said:

I am pretty sure he will sign a new contract. But like Sane, Gnabry and a lot of players do, they us interest from other teams to get offered higher wages from their current club. I would be shocked if he does not extend. Probably wants around £100k+ a week.

Yep, as predicted, the plan has worked, surprise, surprise. Now been offered a massive pay rise. Was never going Real but fairplay, secured the bag and had all the bargaining power, considering he is the starting LB right now for both club and country.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6344158/2025/06/18/myles-lewis-skelly-arsenal-contract/

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4 hours ago, mkh said:

Mykhailo Mudryk charged by the FA, confirmed. Facing up to a four-year ban. 24yo winger not played for Chelsea since November 2024

Club is protecting him in his appeal and won’t terminate his contract. 
 

Madness. 

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