Chelsea Transfers

[DDA 9,941]

46 minutes ago, Mário César said:

these decisions to sell gallagher and the way they are treating chalobah and only buying youngsters for the attack like marc and samu and ignoring the fact that we need at least one senior striker and the center of defense needs clear improvements not to mention the goalkeeper issue is making me totally despondent.

it's such surreal management that I don't even have words.

Its borderline protest worthy. 
 

betond a fucking joke tbh.

People defending this behaviour, thats what gets me.

[TheHulk 2,475]

25 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Welp. Hopefully the addition of Samu doesn’t mean Guiu joins the endless “loan before being sold off 5 years from now” army. Think he’s really got something about him and would be a great alternative weapon off the bench this season for us.

He probably will, fuck these idiots, bought Shatmu for 35m when Guiu is a better player, we're run by complete clowns.

[TheHulk 2,475]

First they inflated his fee to pretend he is some cosmic talent, now pretending other clubs were interested, Egbali must've paid Romano and the others a fortune already, briefing same garbage every week.

Edited August 7, 2024 by TheHulk

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

We are pretty much fucked the start of the season until Jackson gets fit. 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

2 hours ago, LAM09 said:

He came through our academy. You should realise by now that isn't something to our board's liking.

In all honesty, we currently have six CB's in our squad. I don't see anything happening (we obviously need a good starting point CB) unless one or more are sold.

Yeah fully agree. Too much like common sense, all our next signings now depend purely on outgoings too I would think. Because we have about 30 thousand players.

[nyikolajevics 2,700]

13 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

He probably will, fuck these idiots, bought Shatmu for 35m when Guiu is a better player, we're run by complete clowns.

Omorodion has one full LaLiga and one full Segunda Division season behind him, in which he apparently both excelled. Guiu has only played Spanish third tier football and like few dozens minutes of top level. If anyone goes out on loan it’s logically be Guiu.

[DDA 9,941]

Actually like the look of this Omorodion fella despite what the numbers say, you have to take the stats with a slight pinch of salt considering the context. He was at a shite club on loan with fuck all service.. and not all those game were starts. He is clearly powerful and can use his nut which not many of our players can do and considering we seem to be a club that loves crossing to an empty box at least theres some hope we might actually have a head in their trying to convert some of the endless crosses we produce. 

What we do need to worry about now, is having 41 odd players on the books. Didnt the owners learn from their mistake in having too many players on the dressing room last time around? It appears not.

 

[TheHulk 2,475]

 

5 minutes ago, nyikolajevics said:

Omorodion has one full LaLiga and one full Segunda Division season behind him, in which he apparently both excelled. Guiu has only played Spanish third tier football and like few dozens minutes of top level. If anyone goes out on loan it’s logically be Guiu.

Logical would be to actually play Guiu since he already showed promise. I couldn't give a fuck about Shatmu having a season of La Liga, anyone with eyes can see he isn't any better than Fofana. Also what the fuck happened with Washington, didn't these idiots pay around 20m for him, hasn't even been given a chance.

Edited August 7, 2024 by TheHulk

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

6 minutes ago, nyikolajevics said:

Omorodion has one full LaLiga and one full Segunda Division season behind him, in which he apparently both excelled. Guiu has only played Spanish third tier football and like few dozens minutes of top level. If anyone goes out on loan it’s logically be Guiu.

In the real world, Guiu would of been loaned had we signed Oshimen or any other top attacker anyway. A top CF relegates Jackson to second choice. Broja is clearly going to the exit door too. 

Looks like Omorodion, Jackson & Guiu will likely be our striking options now though.

So 90% likely that whoever between Omorodoin and Jackson will be our first choice. Which doesn’t fill me with hope. 

Edited August 7, 2024 by OneMoSalah

[YorkshireBlue 3,279]

10 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

In the real world, Guiu would of been loaned had we signed Oshimen or any other top attacker anyway. A top CF relegates Jackson to second choice. Broja is clearly going to the exit door too. 

Looks like Omorodion, Jackson & Guiu will likely be our striking options now though.

So 90% likely that whoever between Omorodoin and Jackson will be our first choice. Which doesn’t fill me with hope. 

Jackson gets too much stick here, take penalties out of the equation, Jackson in his first season scored 14 goals, without penaltys, that's 2 less that isak, 1 more than Salah, 1 more than cole Palmer,4 more than Saka and only 6 less than Haaland, not a bad first season at all.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

2 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Jackson gets too much stick here, take penalties out of the equation, Jackson in his first season scored 14 goals, without penaltys, that's 2 less that isak, 1 more than Salah, 1 more than cole Palmer,4 more than Saka and only 6 less than Haaland, not a bad first season at all.

Good point but for me Jackson’s number of goals is not the problem. His number of misses on big ocassions and in pivotal moments of narrow games are. But such a mental blockage can probably be worked on. He has all the tools to become a top striker but I doubt it will happen over night so he will continue to cause frustration. 
 

on a different note I am sure Guiu will be loaned out if we sign Omrodian. Simply bc of the fee the latter will be given a shot first. 

[robsblubot 3,595]

8 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Jackson gets too much stick here, take penalties out of the equation, Jackson in his first season scored 14 goals, without penaltys, that's 2 less that isak, 1 more than Salah, 1 more than cole Palmer,4 more than Saka and only 6 less than Haaland, not a bad first season at all.

yup and on top of that he's a good player; as in he's not clueless with the football at his feet.

Not sure comparisons with wingers help his case tho, esp Salah and Cole, who are pretty dominant players scoring or not.

I'm not a fan of Isaak; while he can finish, he's just so freaking slow. Now in tight games, esp when we are chasing a goal, we may need a physical player who can attack headers in tight spaces and under pressure (from the opposition CBs), and Jackson isn't that player.

[King Kante 1,643]

49 minutes ago, nyikolajevics said:

Omorodion has one full LaLiga and one full Segunda Division season behind him, in which he apparently both excelled. Guiu has only played Spanish third tier football and like few dozens minutes of top level. If anyone goes out on loan it’s logically be Guiu.

Well it all depends. Does Samu have any technical ability or tactical ability? The biggest problem we've had with CF is going with physical skills and forgetting that unless a player has the correct skills they're going to flop hard. 

I will never forget having to tell people Lukaku was a Donkey and would be an absolute bust, but people weren't having it because he looked good in highlights and had decent stats in Italy. 

Jackson to be fair, actually started to show some good development last season, which is why a big defender of him when he fan base went after him. Guiu however, has shown that he has been able to do reasonably at all three so far so deserves a chance. Does Samu have enough technical/tactical skill as while I haven't seen him a lot of people are saying he is a bit of a lump which is a big concern for me. 

Edited August 7, 2024 by King Kante

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1 minute ago, King Kante said:

Well it all depends. Does Samu have any technical ability or tactical ability? The biggest problem we've had with CF is going with physical skills and forgetting that unless a player has the correct physical skills. 

I will never forget having to tell people Lukaku was a Donkey and would be an absolute bust, but people weren't having it because he looked good in highlights and had decent stats in Italy. 

Jackson to be fair, actually started to show some good development last season, which is why a big defender of him when he fan base went after him. Guiu however, has shown that he has been able to do reasonably at all three so far so deserves a chance. Does Samu have enough technical/tactical skill as while I haven't seen him a lot of people are saying he is a bit of a lump which is a big concern for me. 

Yup remember that as well; Lukaku was never good enough in his overall technique.
The PL has a history of overvaluing physicality esp power. That has changed over time, but old habits die hard. Wonder if the owners have a bias towards that as well.
I think City was the club that changed all that having skill on the ball above all else.

[YorkshireBlue 3,279]

25 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Not sure comparisons with wingers help his case tho, esp Salah and Cole, who are pretty dominant players scoring or not

Salah cole and saka are the only players above Jackson from Thier clubs that out scores Jackson with penalties, not Liverpool arsenal or Chelsea have a better goal scorer this season than Jackson when u remove penalties, that's the point I was making.

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Just now, YorkshireBlue said:

Salah cole and saka are the only players above Jackson from Thier clubs that out scores Jackson with penalties, not Liverpool arsenal or Chelsea have a better goal scorer this season than Jackson when u remove penalties, that's the point I was making.

Understood. However, Jackson is the striker, a player whose focus is mainly to score goals. Of all players on the pitch he’s got the freer role and plays centralized: there are fewer opposition players between him and the goal.

Those wingers would have to do a lot more aside from scoring, so their focus is split… as is their work.

so, basically I’m suggesting based on the data you shared is that aside from haaland, there isn’t a striker in the league firing in all cylinders considering that the top wingers lead in goals scored.

i also hope Kai does not carry his end of the season form over to this one.

[Mário César 1,280]

it was the first season for jackson

this season I hope to see a great improvment 

[YorkshireBlue 3,279]

23 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Understood. However, Jackson is the striker, a player whose focus is mainly to score goals. Of all players on the pitch he’s got the freer role and plays centralized: there are fewer opposition players between him and the goal.

Those wingers would have to do a lot more aside from scoring, so their focus is split… as is their work.

so, basically I’m suggesting based on the data you shared is that aside from haaland, there isn’t a striker in the league firing in all cylinders considering that the top wingers lead in goals scored.

i also hope Kai does not carry his end of the season form over to this one.

Yes, but also Saka and Salah are considered monsters and Palmer has been hailed as the only reason we stayed up because of his goals, which is only half right only when you remove penalties out of the mix 

[Pizy 18,941]

Btw, what in the hell happened to this Kellyman dude we signed for silly money from Villa? Felt like we announced him and then he fell off the face of the earth never to be seen or heard from again. Haven’t heard anything about a loan or what his role is if he stays with us.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

1 hour ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Jackson gets too much stick here, take penalties out of the equation, Jackson in his first season scored 14 goals, without penaltys, that's 2 less that isak, 1 more than Salah, 1 more than cole Palmer,4 more than Saka and only 6 less than Haaland, not a bad first season at all.

As Magic Lamps says, big moments you cannot fully count on him being that clinical player. And at times when the game is going against you he tends to struggle with some of the more basic things you want your CF to do when your under pressure.

Young player who needs to learn his trade a bit more, should be a number 2 with a more established player to sort of guide/mentor him. As a number 1, not for me. Don’t expect this other bloke to be much better, if at all.

Relying on 3 young CFs as your 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice for a club with ambitions of European football isn’t suitable. But the make up of the squad has the problem in virtually most positions. I think in 2 seasons we have pretty much seen this. We need to get some more established quality players to take the load and actually allow some of these guys to come out the firing line and maybe have a bit less pressure on making it as players of various qualities.

Still question marks around various players regarding quality irrespective and thats why some more proven and established guys would help us 10 fold. Nkunku will help and Sterling really should have been also but in goals, defence and still in attack barring Cole, the quality and whether or not these guys will ever be truly good enough as first choice for the level we want to get isn’t clear at all.

Edited August 7, 2024 by OneMoSalah