robsblubot 3,595 Posted March 2, 2024 Share Posted March 2, 2024 (edited) 7 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: I'm sure Mikel would just laugh and look at his trophy collection from his time at Chelsea, hopefully Caicedo gets to lift a trophy someday and repay that mammoth price tag. 😆 Hehe well, he had a few (more like several) WC players around him to help out back then. Seriously though we complain about caicedo’s passing, but he can hit a long ball and assist rarely tho (still 20yo). The one thing he has in common with Mikel right now is the absolute inability to shoot and score goals. caicedo is quick and very mobile—the opposite of Mikel. Despite the shortcoming in caicedo a game he’s still more useful than Mikel was. Edited March 2, 2024 by robsblubot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted March 2, 2024 Share Posted March 2, 2024 I was dead wrong about Edson Álvarez he has been great for West Ham as their main DMF, and overall probaly has been their best player, at least consistently vastly better player at than either Enzo or Caicedo, especially Caicedo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted March 2, 2024 Share Posted March 2, 2024 17 minutes ago, Vesper said: I was dead wrong about Edson Álvarez he has been great for West Ham as their main DMF, and overall probaly has been their best player, at least consistently vastly better player at than either Enzo or Caicedo, especially Caicedo Too old and experienced for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted March 2, 2024 Share Posted March 2, 2024 1 minute ago, lucio said: Too old and experienced for us he was only 25yo in the summer window of 2023/24 he is a Gen Zer, lolol lucio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted March 2, 2024 Share Posted March 2, 2024 11 minutes ago, Vesper said: he was only 25yo in the summer window of 2023/24 he is a Gen Zer, lolol He’s got that atletico Madrid vibe from what I saw at Ajax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,636 Posted March 3, 2024 Share Posted March 3, 2024 The type of talent you go for if available instead of all those no name brazilians. Vesper and lucio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted March 3, 2024 Share Posted March 3, 2024 20 hours ago, robsblubot said: Hehe well, he had a few (more like several) WC players around him to help out back then. Seriously though we complain about caicedo’s passing, but he can hit a long ball and assist rarely tho (still 20yo). The one thing he has in common with Mikel right now is the absolute inability to shoot and score goals. caicedo is quick and very mobile—the opposite of Mikel. Despite the shortcoming in caicedo a game he’s still more useful than Mikel was. Finally we agree on something. Never thought Mikel was all that and to this day I found him to be a very average player, yet now since his podcast he’s getting Chelsea legend labels. It’s as if people are pretending to forget how frustrating he was. Side to side Mikel. Wasn’t great technically, limited passing range, offered next to nothing in creating chances, but was decent defensively. Ramires was more of a legend than Mikel. robsblubot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vytis33 1,373 Posted March 3, 2024 Share Posted March 3, 2024 Speaking of Ramires just saw this yesterday wouldn’t even have recognized him without the caption lucio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted March 3, 2024 Share Posted March 3, 2024 1 minute ago, Vytis33 said: Speaking of Ramires just saw this yesterday wouldn’t even have recognized him without the caption Saw him at the Viali charity game live and he was fat with an Afro lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted March 3, 2024 Share Posted March 3, 2024 20 minutes ago, TheHulk said: The type of talent you go for if available instead of all those no name brazilians. We need him back because he’s our guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted March 3, 2024 Share Posted March 3, 2024 18 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Finally we agree on something. Never thought Mikel was all that and to this day I found him to be a very average player, yet now since his podcast he’s getting Chelsea legend labels. It’s as if people are pretending to forget how frustrating he was. Side to side Mikel. Wasn’t great technically, limited passing range, offered next to nothing in creating chances, but was decent defensively. Ramires was more of a legend than Mikel. Mikel was an underrated baller. Strong as an ox , dominant in the air. Didn’t make mistakes. Prime Mikel would be a huge asset to this team. watch him for Nigeria and he actually had a good range of forward long passing and could drive up the pitch but wasn’t really his job here. Norfolkblue1961 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 16 hours ago, lucio said: Didn’t make mistakes. Are you being serious here? 😄 I still remember him walking around nonchalantly, not closing players down, just being slow overall in situations. He would probably be slightly better than Caicedo though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,663 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 17 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: It’s as if people are pretending to forget how frustrating he was. He was frustrating to watch but at that point in time, he was what we needed in that deeper midfield role. 17 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Ramires was more of a legend than Mikel. For that goal vs Barcelona, he'll always be a LEGEND. Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 18 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Finally we agree on something. Never thought Mikel was all that and to this day I found him to be a very average player, yet now since his podcast he’s getting Chelsea legend labels. It’s as if people are pretending to forget how frustrating he was. Side to side Mikel. Wasn’t great technically, limited passing range, offered next to nothing in creating chances, but was decent defensively. Ramires was more of a legend than Mikel. For me top3 most annoying players in the last 20 years: Mikel, Willian and Mount. Ofc they were not the worst, far from it but can't compare them to Drinkwater, Bakayoko and guys like that because they were not starters and didn't stay long. But those 3 for years and years played every game and it was painful every time seeing them in starting lineup. Now retrospectively I admire Willian more but remember for years I wanted upgrade there and his end product was so annoying. Pedro was better but they usually shared minutes. Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,829 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 18 hours ago, Vytis33 said: Speaking of Ramires just saw this yesterday wouldn’t even have recognized him without the caption I thought Samuel Umtiti. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,663 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 39 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Now retrospectively I admire Willian more but remember for years I wanted upgrade there and his end product was so annoying Agree the end product was annoying but he's still far far ahead of Madueke/Mudryk on the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 willian was a very decent player a way better than kalou, madueke or mudryk. far better from all of them bigbluewillie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 3 hours ago, manpe said: Are you being serious here? 😄 I still remember him walking around nonchalantly, not closing players down, just being slow overall in situations. He would probably be slightly better than Caicedo though. Didn’t constantly make mistakes on the ball and give it away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,730 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 Musiala is so much a typical Liverpool signing Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,636 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 Get him out of my club. To think we could've had Gvardiol instead of this fraud. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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