Vesper 31,104 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 lol just on name alone I am going to follow this bloke Seedy Jatta what a seedy hat trick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,949 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 I have stayed away so people can vent, I am just not the kind of person that needs to. I am a real optimist, borderline irritating. We are going to have growing pains. I really think this group will come good. bigbluewillie, Hamilton, Thor and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Chelsea player will be “put on the market in January” if he doesn’t sign a contract extension https://www.Chelsea-news.co/2023/09/Chelsea-player-will-be-put-on-the-market-in-january-if-he-doesnt-sign-a-contract-extension/ With the summer transfer window over the time has come to reflect on it all and the business that was done. Chelsea did some incredible business and spent a lot of money. But as well as that, they managed to sell many of the deadwood players and make some incredible fees on player departures. They could have sold more as well and the squad size is still slightly too big for what Mauricio Pochettino would have ideally liked. A handful of Chelsea’s players could still have been sold on transfer deadline day last Friday but they ended up staying, one of which was Ian Maatsen. Burnley agreed a deal to sign him from Chelsea for £31.5 million, but Maatsen did not want to go and didn’t go! He wanted to stay at Chelsea and fair play to him for that. But if he doesn’t sign his new contract extension at the club, then he will be put on the transfer market in January. That is according to Ben Jacobs writing in his latest exclusive and extensive Chelsea FC column for SPTC today. He said: “I was surprised Ian Maatsen didn’t go to Burnley on a loan with an obligation to buy, especially after Marc Cucurella’s loan to Manchester United fell through. There are a lot of left-backs at the club suddenly, albeit Maatsen has been used in a more advanced position. “Had Burnley offered £20-25m at the beginning of the window, Maatsen would have likely moved. But he got minutes in pre-season and was reluctant to exit, even knowing Burnley so well from his time with them on loan last season. Chelsea now want Maatsen to sign a new contract and if he doesn’t he’s another one who will be put on the market in January.” related: Chelsea star Ian Maatsen celebrates after rejecting £31.5m deadline day transfer Chelsea have been one of the busiest Premier League teams during this summer's transfer window, but one of their proposed deadline day deals didn't end up going through https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/Chelsea-transfer-deadline-day-maatsen-30847250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 31,104 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) Corinthians now desperate to sell Brazilian teen Gabriel Moscardo to Chelsea, Blues offering most money https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/transfer-news/club-now-desperate-to-sell-21m-player-to-Chelsea-in-record-sale-blues-offering-most-money/ That is according to Itatiaia in Brazil. So, what is the latest on Gabriel Moscardo and Chelsea? Let’s take a look… What’s the story? Well – according to Fabrizio Romano – Chelsea made a bid for the Brazilian wonderkid at the end of August. Corinthians told Chelsea to pay €25m (£21m) for Moscardo at the time – which would make it a record sale for the Brazilian giants – and talks between both sides continued. Now – however – Corinthians want to sell the teenager to Chelsea quickly, as they find themselves at risk of losing the South American wonderkid for just 80mR$ (£13m). Why? Well, Itatiaia explain how clubs in Brazil have access to Moscardo’s £13m release clause, and the largest sides in Série A are able to afford his £13m release clause. There is now a fear of one Brazilian club triggering his release clause, hence the reason why Corinthians want to finalise a deal with Chelsea as soon as possible. Corinthians are also keen to sell Moscardo to Chelsea as the Blues are willing to send him back on loan for the 2023/24 campaign. Edited September 6, 2023 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) ffs Chelsea failed to sign exciting player Antonio Nusa on deadline day after Ian Maatsen refused to leave Stamford Bridge https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/rumor-news-Chelsea-failed-sign-exciting-player-deadline-day-21-year-old-star-refused-leave-stamford-bridge-reports Chelsea reportedly failed to sign winger Antonio Nusa this summer as youngster Ian Maatsen refused to leave. As per Transfer Confidential by Mail, the Blues were interested in signing another young prospect this summer in Nusa. The Norwegian winger plies his trade for Club Brugge, whom he joined from Stabaek in 2021. He has since made 46 senior appearances for the Belgian side, scoring four goals and providing three assists. Nusa had interest from Chelsea on deadline day (September 1), but they wanted to part ways with Maatsen first. Journalist Miguel Delaney had confirmed that the Blues received a bid from Burnley, where he spent last season on loan. However, the 21-year-old declined the offer, as he wants to stay and develop at Stamford Bridge. Maatsen's departure would have helped the west London side in FFP in the long term and also allowed them to sign Nusa, but the Dutch left-back will now stay at the club. Maatsen joined Chelsea's academy from PSV Eindhoven's academy in 2018. He made his debut in their opening game of the ongoing season in the 1-1 home draw with Liverpool. The Dutchman has made substitute appearances in three of the Blues' Premier League fixtures this season. He also played the entire 90 minutes of their Carabao Cup second-round win over AFC Wimbledon. Edited September 6, 2023 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ulvhedin 526 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 On 04/09/2023 at 23:34, ZAPHOD2319 said: I have stayed away so people can vent, I am just not the kind of person that needs to. I am a real optimist, borderline irritating. We are going to have growing pains. I really think this group will come good. yeah, under Potter we also had some good statistics (xG...) but we are not passing eye test so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 2 hours ago, ulvhedin said: yeah, under Potter we also had some good statistics (xG...) but we are not passing eye test so far. We are deluding ourselves if we think this reflects a positive development. All these stats mean nothing unless there is progress in terms of goals scored. But the opposite is the case. we are a worse team than a year ago and the year before that. There is no excuse for wastefulness. It is a mental weakness. This group is mentally weak bc it is young and inexperienced and it’s getting younger and less experienced every transfer window. You overcome mental weakness by overcoming obstacles in your life over and over again. But these players are falling shorter of doing so every week. It’s not even their fault. There is almost no one there to learn from or to lead. Every new signing is just looking left and right and seeing a player who is just as clueless. They look up and see a clueless management throwing money around. They go to the treatment room and get some gym bro level medical care from some person who is there courtesy of being pals with the foo fighters. our rebuild which now has been dragging on in episodes for at least 5 years is one of the biggest bottle jobs in the history of football. And make no mistake the worst is yet to come. Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,789 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: We are deluding ourselves if we think this reflects a positive development. All these stats mean nothing unless there is progress in terms of goals scored. But the opposite is the case. we are a worse team than a year ago and the year before that. There is no excuse for wastefulness. It is a mental weakness. This group is mentally weak bc it is young and inexperienced and it’s getting younger and less experienced every transfer window. You overcome mental weakness by overcoming obstacles in your life over and over again. But these players are falling shorter of doing so every week. It’s not even their fault. There is almost no one there to learn from or to lead. Every new signing is just looking left and right and seeing a player who is just as clueless. They look up and see a clueless management throwing money around. They go to the treatment room and get some gym bro level medical care from some person who is there courtesy of being pals with the foo fighters. our rebuild which now has been dragging on in episodes for at least 5 years is one of the biggest bottle jobs in the history of football. And make no mistake the worst is yet to come. Sounding very much like the same stat gurus who kept waiting for Werner and co. to start posting monster attacking numbers I'd wait till November before concluding the worst is yet to come. Seen enough in the games and with Enzo playing well that we can get better in attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Net transfer spending: winners and losers https://football-observatory.com/WeeklyPost429 CIES Football Observatory Weekly Post number 429 presents the net transfer spending of the 100 most active clubs in terms of the financial volume of transactions concluded over the last decade. During this period, Manchester United has the most negative balance (-€1.396 billion), while the Portuguese side SL Benfica has the best (+€764 millio) Two other teams have had transfer losses of more than €1 billion over the last ten years: Chelsea and Paris St-Germain. Chelsea also has the most negative balances in the post-COVID period (-€993 million) and the calendar year 2023 (-€558 million). In contrast, SL Benfica outranks AFC Ajax (+€434m) and RB Salzburg (+€422m) over the last decade, while Villarreal has the most positive net spending in the 2023 calendar year (+€117m). Also published today, the 87th CIES Football Observatory Monthly Report presents an even more detailed analysis of transfer-related financial flows in world football over the last decade. In particular, it shows that the amount of transfer fees incurred by clubs in 2023 (around €12.4 billion) was almost 25% higher than in the previous record year of 2019. This is essentially due to the sharp increase of English Premier League and Saudi Pro League clubs’ investments. The figures published include fixed transfer fees, any add-ons regardless of whether they have actually been paid, as well as sums invested in the context of paying loans. Amounts negotiated for loans with an obligation to buy are included in the breakdown for the year of the transfer. Within the limits of available information, the data on beneficiaries considers sell-on fees negotiated by previous clubs. Net transfer spending since 2014 € Million, for the 100 most active clubs in terms of the financial volume of transactions concluded since 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 On 03/09/2023 at 18:39, Mhsc said: Yes but Enzo/Ugarte would have been a very good double pivot, I don’t think there’s any chance we spend 115m on an extra midfielder if that’s our starting point, it would be a completely nonsensical transfer if we were not in a state of total desperation. Ugarte's fee (£51.5m) was less than Lavia's (£58m when add-ons are included) PSG got him because they offered him a far larger salary than we were willing to spend Mhsc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, ulvhedin said: yeah, under Potter we also had some good statistics (xG...) but we are not passing eye test so far. First couple of months in the PL under Potter, going from his appointment till the mid-season World Cup break. Games played: 8 xG: 8,40 (18th in the league) Goals scored: 9 (14th in the league) xGA: 12.71 (11th in the league) Goals against: 3 (3rd in the league) So yeah, the stats were shite too. After the World Cup till Potter's eventual sacking the numbers did get slightly better to indicate some improvement in the performances but even then the offensive numbers still weren't great compared to the best teams in the league but rather maybe somewhere around 8-10th in the league. It was only the defending that improved significantly in the second half of Potter's reign with both xGA and actual goals against being among the top3-4 in the league but that just wasn't enough when nothing was going our way in attack. Not overly worried about things right now. The loss against Forest was terrible and I thought Poch's tactics were cowardly (Chilly at LW) but there were still plenty enough opportunities to win the game. If performances stay like this, things are absolutely guaranteed to get better. It was always going to take a bit of time for things to start clicking with half the team being new arrivals and a new manager in charge too. Edited September 6, 2023 by Jype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Chelsea’s £140m Enciso deal, United’s new No 7, Ritchie to Saudi: Imagining the January window https://theathletic.com/4825257/2023/09/04/january-transfer-window-imagined/ Well, what a transfer window that was! January 2024, we will never forget it. A series of football players were transferred — in exchange for money — from one club to another. It really was memorable. In many ways, it was completely different to all the windows that have gone before it. Although then again, there was a surprise twist no one saw coming when Chelsea broke the British transfer record to sign Brighton’s Julio Enciso for £140million. New Chelsea boss Frank Lampard spoke of his delight as Enciso put pen to paper on a 17-year contract with the option of an 18th. Read our exclusive interview with Jordan Henderson, on Saudi Arabia transfer and LGBTQ+ concerns Henderson ‘only has positive things to say’ about FSG’s Liverpool ownership “We’ve signed so many Brighton players we’re thinking of wearing blue and white stripes,” Lampard wisecracked, before adding: “No, but seriously, he’s a fantastic player and we can’t wait for him to help us try and finish in the top half.” It was a busy window for the Blues who also loaned out Moises Caicedo to Manchester United, sold their most promising academy graduate to a mid-level Premier League club for £40million and signed a player from the Bundesliga you have never heard of for £70million. However, they did fail with a late bid for the Amex Stadium. Chelsea had actually seen off late competition for Enciso from Liverpool, whose last-minute bid of £139million was flatly rejected. Enciso was said to be keen on a move to Anfield but Jurgen Klopp instructed the club not to bid any higher, reportedly saying: “The day that £140million bids are football, I’m not in a job anymore.” Elsewhere Manchester United made a late move on deadline day to bring in a striker after the unforeseen struggles of £72million striker Rasmus Hojlund. After being released by Nottingham Forest, Chris Wood moved to Old Trafford on a short-term deal and was handed the No 7 shirt previously worn by Cristiano Ronaldo, David Beckham and George Best. When it was put to manager Erik ten Hag that signing Wood wasn’t befitting of United’s glorious history and traditions, the Dutchman pointed to previous January signings Odion Ighalo and Wout Weghorst (combined goals in their 29 United league appearances: 0) and said he was following the club’s heritage to the letter, before having to cut his press conference short as part of the decaying Old Trafford roof was caving in. United, whose only other January addition was Phil Jones on a free transfer, tried in vain to move on £80million defender Harry Maguire and his near-£200,000-a-week wages. In a desperate attempt to trick Maguire into leaving, United blindfolded the defender and put him in a chauffeured limo while telling him he was going to Arsenal. When Maguire later removed the blindfold and realised he was at West Ham’s training ground, he stormed off in a huff. England boss Gareth Southgate reassured Maguire that his ever-present place in the national side would remain unaffected, citing the 30-year-old’s form for United’s under-21 side in the EFL Trophy as being “good enough for me”. As for who won the window, journalists and pundits alike were unequivocal in their praise of Brighton’s business. “They’re a model club,” every single person in the world said. The Seagulls made a profit of £300million in January but refused to spend big on first-team replacements for the departed Enciso and Kaoru Mitoma, despite the team sitting just two points behind leaders Manchester City. Instead, Brighton’s two additions were an 18-year-old midfielder from the Bolivian third division and a 20-year-old right-back from Garrison Gunners in the Isles of Scilly Football League. Chelsea are reported to be monitoring their situations with an eye on a possible summer move. The biggest Premier League sale came not from Brighton but from Newcastle United, whose promising, young left winger Matt Ritchie moved to Al-Ittihad for £200million. Figures on both sides of the deal insisted Ritchie had been valued fairly, with one senior source saying: “We just can’t wait to see Ritchie line up for Newcastle this weekend. No wait, I mean Al-Ittihad. Hang on which club am I supposed to be working for again?”. Everton also went big with a signing involving the number 200, specifically the £200,000 they paid Stoke City for striker Dwight Gayle. The fee represented the entirety of Everton’s January budget and meant the club had to cut costs elsewhere, with beleaguered manager Sean Dyche agreeing to stop starching his white shirts to save a few pennies. Ritchie’s Newcastle sale was a league record fee, while Nottingham Forest broke a record too with the addition of seven right-backs, six of them from Brazil, as part of a recruitment drive that saw 41 players move to the City Ground and 39 leave. And finally, across Europe the most high-profile transfer involved Barcelona who struck a deal to loan Victor Osimhen from Napoli with an obligation to buy. Barca president Joan Laporta contacted a senior Napoli official with the message “we’ll give you €300million next summer, honest”, followed by the wink emoji. However, after announcing the loan signing of Osimhen and holding a press conference to unveil the 25-year-old, Barca were shocked to discover they couldn’t afford to register him with La Liga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,949 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 7 hours ago, ulvhedin said: yeah, under Potter we also had some good statistics (xG...) but we are not passing eye test so far. If it was just xG, then yes. It clearly is not. Under Potter we were not getting the kind of through balls and progressive passing we are seeing in every game we have played this season. I see a world of change from last year to what we are seeing in these early games. We definitely need better finishing. There is night and day differences in attack from Potter to this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,237 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Just buy Toney Jan and close the books. Come summer maybe bring in a World Class winger if possible like a Kvaratskhelia, maybe a GK if possible and let a few more go. This team would lift off. bigbluewillie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,949 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 bigbluewillie and Fernando 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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