OneMoSalah 9,122 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Pedro Goncalves. And I think Maddison is highly creative player, shame we didn't go for him. Very reasonable price and would be great in Poch 4231 as Nkunku backup. Clear upgrade on Mount imo. Both delivering good numbers for years. Maddison could of been a good shout. Although known our luck he’d probably struggle here like every attacker we’ve signed recently 😂 But for £40m (I think it was that), good age, good pedigree, experience, matured a bit last 2 seasons as a more established player - maybe should of been a consideration. Maybe with the Nkunku signing though, even if we were to ever have been in the running, he’d probably of went somewhere where he would be undisputed first choice. Little bastard had 2 really good games against Brentford and United. Scored a lot of goals last season, chips in with set play goals and assists also. I still remember watching him play for Aberdeen when he was on from Norwich at Pittodrie years ago at a work day out and the difference now is incredible. Very talented back then but didn’t have the drive or consistency that he developed at Leicester. No idea about Pedro Goncalves. Plays for Sporting all I know. Edited August 21, 2023 by OneMoSalah NikkiCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Really not a fan of Maddison on and off way too much for me. Paqueta is more interesting, albeit a bit on the slow side. of course that's out with both City interest and the betting issue. On the latter, if true, his only defense would be some sort of cohesion--not even sure how much sway that would provide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,701 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said: Maddison could of been a good shout. Although known our luck he’d probably struggle here like every attacker we’ve signed recently 😂 But for £40m (I think it was that), good age, good pedigree, experience, matured a bit last 2 seasons as a more established player - maybe should of been a consideration. Maybe with the Nkunku signing though, even if we were to ever have been in the running, he’d probably of went somewhere where he would be undisputed first choice. Little bastard had 2 really good games against Brentford and United. Scored a lot of goals last season, chips in with set play goals and assists also. I still remember watching him play for Aberdeen when he was on from Norwich at Pittodrie years ago at a work day out and the difference now is incredible. Very talented back then but didn’t have the drive or consistency that he developed at Leicester. No idea about Pedro Goncalves. Plays for Sporting all I know. That's because we went away from getting quality, experienced players like Cesc, Hazard, Costa, Willian and going after "projects" like Mudryk, Madueke and co. I don't mind the investment in guys like Casadei, Gabriel and these other youngsters but we got our pants pulled down by both Shaktar and PSV for these two wingers. I'm sort of surprised we didn't get Ward Prowse along with Lavia, at least he would have provided quality set pieces for our CB's, striker. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,832 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Seasons over by the sounds of things. Might as well pack it in, play the youth and focus on next season by the sounds of people on the board here. Mhsc and Norfolkblue1961 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,668 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 maddison would not be a backup to anyone. and he's already injured after two games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,158 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Given the amount of defensive power we have in Lavia and Caicedo, I wonder if the Cherki idea has gained or lost merit? Originally I was against getting him because he is extremely lazy defensively, but his creativity is not really in doubt. If we played Caicedo + Lavia behind Enzo, Cherki as the RAM and Sterling LAM that would be a better balance of creativity/dribbling. Maybe the defensive output of Lavia+Caicedo cancels out his lack of work ethic... My gut still says don't buy lazy players though, or people that don't score when our whole CM group are not goal scorers. dimmas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,374 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mhsc said: Given the amount of defensive power we have in Lavia and Caicedo, I wonder if the Cherki idea has gained or lost merit? Originally I was against getting him because he is extremely lazy defensively, but his creativity is not really in doubt. If we played Caicedo + Lavia behind Enzo, Cherki as the RAM and Sterling LAM that would be a better balance of creativity/dribbling. Maybe the defensive output of Lavia+Caicedo cancels out his lack of work ethic... My gut still says don't buy lazy players though, or people that don't score when our whole CM group are not goal scorers. I feel like he’d be kind of wasted out wide primarily. From what I’ve watched of him he needs to be centrally where he can be more influential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lluubbeenn 188 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I really don't rate any player, who is even remotely on the market(realistic) and can come and improve us. There are a lot of gambles out there, but no sure things. Especially after the Caicedo debut I am reluctant to recommend a sub 25yo player. I would bet on the current squad until January. There are soo many new players we really cant analyze where exactly should we improve. Another GK is a must this window though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,408 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Who ever it is we need wingers that are effective in the box and know how to put a chance away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blue Armour 4,759 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Mhsc said: Given the amount of defensive power we have in Lavia and Caicedo, I wonder if the Cherki idea has gained or lost merit? Originally I was against getting him because he is extremely lazy defensively, but his creativity is not really in doubt. If we played Caicedo + Lavia behind Enzo, Cherki as the RAM and Sterling LAM that would be a better balance of creativity/dribbling. Maybe the defensive output of Lavia+Caicedo cancels out his lack of work ethic... My gut still says don't buy lazy players though, or people that don't score when our whole CM group are not goal scorers. Cherki - another player with flair, but no real output in terms of goals or assists. We have enough of those. Might as well resign Felix then. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,374 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Yeah, as much as I like Cherki and wouldn’t say no to him if the club targeted him, he really isn’t what we need now. If the plan is to have a rock solid midfield 3 of Enzo, Caicedo, and Lavia then there isn’t really a place for a traditional #10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 39 minutes ago, Blue Armour said: Cherki - another player with flair, but no real output in terms of goals or assists. We have enough of those. Might as well resign Felix then. Cherki is on another planet in terms of key passes/progressive passes/chances created compared to our wingers/attacking midfielders. There is no one in our squad like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,122 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 51 minutes ago, JDY said: Cherki is on another planet in terms of key passes/progressive passes/chances created compared to our wingers/attacking midfielders. There is no one in our squad like him. Is this based off of one season? Need some proven quality not another one hit wonder to put it bluntly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,408 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 9 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: Pedro Goncalves. That's a great shout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,528 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Is this based off of one season? Need some proven quality not another one hit wonder to put it bluntly. I watched Lyon this season against Strasbourg they are horrible, and last night another horrid display by the look of result and stats - both loses. Barcola and Cherki couldn't do shit. 7 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: That's a great shout. Yeah, I'm thinking guy is having 58 goals and 34 assists last 3 seasons predominantly as a winger. 25 years old doing it constantly for years. Players for Portugal could be hit and miss but there is a similarity with Bruno who was doing the same for Sporting for years and left for United at best age and continue to deliver in terms of numbers. Pedro just extended the contract this could be problem tho but definitely have more sense than any winger we bought or are linked. dimmas and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,408 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 100% who ever we get isn't being mentioned right now in the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,408 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: I watched Lyon this season against Strasbourg they are horrible, and last night another horrid display by the look of result and stats - both loses. Barcola and Cherki couldn't do shit. Yeah, I'm thinking guy is having 58 goals and 34 assists last 3 seasons predominantly as a winger. 25 years old doing it constantly for years. Players for Portugal could be hit and miss but there is a similarity with Bruno who was doing the same for Sporting for years and left for United at best age and continue to deliver in terms of numbers. Pedro just extended the contract this could be problem tho but definitely have more sense than any winger we bought or are linked. Think its less of a risk given wingers from Portugal tend to do well in the Premier League. Jota, Diaz, Neto, etc. Looks like he has a 68m buy out clause. I'd also throw in Simon Banza as the ST depth as well. Edited August 21, 2023 by MoroccanBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lluubbeenn 188 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Think its less of a risk given wingers from Portugal tend to do well in the Premier League. Jota, Diaz, Neto, etc. Looks like he has a 68m buy out clause. A bargain by our standards then 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,374 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Didn’t Bruno Fernandes put up monster numbers at Sporting as well? He translated well to the PL as much as I hate the prick. So perhaps this Goncalves dude is worth a punt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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