Blue Armour 4,446 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 3 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Stupidity by the club not fighting to keep him if I am honest. Can’t buy experience. Can’t buy anybody better than this fella either when he’s fit and firing too (think Poch could have maybe used him similarly to Jose with Maka in his last season here and if we had a competent medical team that could also of helped get him fitter)- seems a waste letting him go so easily. Losing Rudiger, Jorginho, Kante, probably Azpilicueta, Kovacic as well in this window all in the space of 2 years - big players who have brought a lot in different ways be it through leadership, experience or personality. Poch really has got a lot to do here to because the majority of this bunch have shown they are utterly feckless when it comes down to all three of those. I sincerely hope there are a few players with big personalities coming into this dressing room and soon. Can’t expect all of these young fellas to bring it all either, so whatever the strategies going to be recruiting wise, it better include some proven players with leadership and more importantly, personality. It's not just stupidity, it's pure laziness. They are simply looking at the easiest options to sell. While leaving Poch with a squad that has Cucurella, Sterling, Koulibaly and Gallagher. They finally appoint a manager that could make use of so many options, and they are on the verge of leaving him with little to work with OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,446 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 And what's with Brighton and their annoying bids for Colwill. The seagulls collectively ruined our last season by giving us Cucurella & Potter whilst fleecing us for a ton of cash. Now they want to get our talented youth prospects for cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,200 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 50 minutes ago, Blue Armour said: They are simply looking at the easiest options to sell. he leaves on a free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) Kante is by far my fav player too. And IMO he's by far our best player, and the one true world class player we've got. He's underrated too; not because he's not considered a world class player, but because folks think he's not up there with the greats, but I disagree. I think he's a world beater who, when fit, can absolutely ruin any plans your opposition may have for that game. He'd walk into ANY starting XI... no questions asked. I very much doubt Argentina would've won had Kante been fit. With that out of that way, it's a very difficult assessment to make: if we sell and he comes back to near full fitness, and delivers top performances for the next 3 years, then we will look like fools. If we retain him under big wages, and he hardly plays, well we will look like fools too. Hope the "leadershit" did not fire the last good physios and docs the club had. Edited June 7, 2023 by robsblubot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,200 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, robsblubot said: if we sell and he comes back to near full fitness, and delivers top performances for the next 3 years, then we will look like fools. number one, we are not selling him he contract is up he leaves on a free number 2, he is going to the shitbox saudi league if he leaves, and for 2 years (not 3 atm) so how would you know if he is 'top notch' as he will be toiling away in that shithole? number 3, he has been consistently injured FAR too much, exactly as I predicted long ago when I said sell (after we won the CL) number 4, when healthy this season, he has looked a shadow of the player he was far too often Norfolkblue1961 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Vesper said: number one, we are not selling him he contract is up he leaves on a free number 2, he is going to the shitbox saudi league if he leaves, and for 2 years (not 3 atm) so how would you know if he is 'top notch' as he will be toiling away in that shithole? number 3, he has been consistently injured FAR too much, exactly as I predicted long ago when I said sell (after we won the CL) number 4, when healthy this season, he has looked a shadow of the player he was far too often Fair enough, but once again, it goes into a medical assessment, which I'm far from being qualified to do--even if I had the information, which I don't. Your #4 somewhat contradicts your #3 tho, or at least makes either one of them not very important. I'd stick with he has hardly played, and for that reason, he was a shadow of his former self in the few matches he did play. Now, whether that's it... or was a one-time injury, which ruined him for 2 seasons, I cannot tell, or know. With all that said, nothing guarantees that we will get a player remotely close his level. Considering the latest signings, I'd not be very optimistic about the near future. Edited June 7, 2023 by robsblubot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) Chelsea have joined Barcelona and Liverpool in the race to sign Celta Vigo's Spanish midfielder Gabri Veiga. The 21-year-old has a £34.4m release clause. (Guardian) Who's he? anyone have info on him please... I'm looking at you Vesp lol Edited June 7, 2023 by bigbluewillie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Since kante joined, he's missed around 101 games due to injuries, this season alone he has missed 38 games, IF he's fit is a big word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 completely missed me that extension was never signed. Well if Kante leaves, thanks and good luck but surely at least one year too late. Hurts dismantling that CL team already. What a short era that was. But out of that XI , honestly only Rüdiger should still be here besides Chilly, RJ and Thiago . I really liked Mount and Kai. but they regressed and if they want to pursue a new challenge it’s probably a good time to leave. We need to build our identity anew. Not just as a team but as a club. And if that project is to succeed we need more new faces in and most importantly many old ones to leave even if it hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) Apparently we want Neymar and looking to open talks…. Hmmm. What the fuck is the transfer strategy at this club? Let Kante leave, let Kovacic leave and then go after someone like Neymar? After signing Mudryk in January? If this is true, there is clearly no defined plan and back to winging it. Edited June 7, 2023 by OneMoSalah Laylabelle and robsblubot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 6 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: True but I don’t think Kante is going there for the money, he’s going because they’re giving him a 2 year deal and because we are stupid enough to let him go. If we offered him a 2 year deal on any terms he’d probably stay as its been continually confirmed that his preferred option has always been to stay here. The fact we are just letting him go is mental - people keep mentioning injuries but the club basically sacked the whole medical team who have been here for longer than the past 2 years, indicating that perhaps their belief is that they’re more to blame than Kante, James, Chilwell, etc whoever else has suffered big lay offs. The fact hes getting £100m a year or whatever is irrelevant, its not like hes demanding that, I mean this is Ngolo Kante we are talking about - one of the most modest footballers in the modern game. Hes not went to that Saudi club and asked for that, they’re offering him it Also people saying he doesn’t have an affect on this squad/in the dressing room have no idea. The guy leads by example when he plays, covers every blade of grass, clearly trains well and gets on with his job, doesn’t have an enormous ego etc. Just look at all the quotes about Kante from Rudiger, Vardy and all his past team mates about his personality, how humble he is etc. He’s a good egg and I think he will be an enormous miss on and off the pitch. Kante is our highest paid player and is barely fit. He is on what? £300k p/w? We talk about players on high wages and for a player who is consistently injured as he is and his age, it is completely understandable why there has been a reluctance to offer him a new contract on Kante's preferred terms. Kante may be a modest player but he has virtually won every trophy possible for us. At this stage it is definitely about money and understandably too. He is coming to latter stages of his career so with them offering that amount of money, we will not compete. If he was around 26-27 with his top years still ahead of him, then yes he most likely stays but now at his age of 32, he will consider the best financial move for himself and family. Also in a country that someone else pointed out, that is Islamic, it is a no-brainer for him. Not one I can blame the club on at all tbh. Hamilton and Norfolkblue1961 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 25 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Apparently we want Neymar and looking to open talks…. Hmmm. What the fuck is the transfer strategy at this club? Let Kante leave, let Kovacic leave and then go after someone like Neymar? After signing Mudryk in January? If this is true, there is clearly no defined plan and back to winging it. That's one think Neymar has over Kante plenty: no not skill, injuries! 😰 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 40 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Apparently we want Neymar and looking to open talks…. We have been linked with him for the last two windows, and he's stil at PSG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 There isn't a better time for Kante to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 11 hours ago, Mário César said: Goodbye you will always be remember legend! Happy for Kante for this payday. Hope he and his family enjoy Saudi. Came in and transformed the club from Day 1. His Duracell bunny energy is the key reason for the 16-17 league win and 20-21 CL win. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 3 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: It is our Ship of Theseus moment. New ownership has changed almost every part of the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 So, I wonder what shit today will bring. Outgoings outgoings and more outgoings whilst Winstanley and Vivell are sat stroking their cocks on a beach no doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,280 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 neymar ony want a club that play in champions league he never will play for Chelsea well in my opinion we need: 1 goalkeeper 3 midfielders 1 winger 1 center forward and sell deadwood kante is the first next probably will be auba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,928 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 21 minutes ago, Special Juan said: So, I wonder what shit today will bring. Outgoings outgoings and more outgoings whilst Winstanley and Vivell are sat stroking their cocks on a beach no doubt After the Ugarte debacle it doesn’t really seem as though we’re close to any other deal. It’s kind of stunning that we haven’t really been linked to a striker at all. The one most dire position of need and really the only name we’ve heard is Osimhen who is completely unrealistic. The Napoli owner will ask €150m for him at this point. And then in midfield there are plenty of names we’re linked with but we don’t seem to be advancing on any of them yet. Liverpool on the other hand are pushing forward with about 3 midfielders all at once. A club we will hope to rival to get back into the top 4. Appears we’re almost paralyzed by needing to sell our deadwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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