Strike 7,792 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Wants pay on par with Azpi and can't blame him for asking that. The club should move him along with Azpi in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 41 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said: I hope we also supplement the key first team players with some of the youth coming through (who are hungry for their chance). Gallagher, Broja, Colwill (if he lives up to the hype) would be quality squad players to have around the club moving around. I feel like we've always done better in the transfer market in finding players without the massive price tags. Whenever we try to go big, it tends to go badly for us (Morata, Lukaku, Havertz, Pulisic etc) That's why Broja signed an extension till 2028, and Gallagher is already important rotation player. Colwill so far is having disappointing loan spell because of Brighton very good start of the season. Unfortunately no player from current youth teams looks like is ready to make a step to the 1st team, Lewis Hall is propably the closest one, hopefully Hutchinson and Casadei will progress nicely later in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,110 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 6 hours ago, Strike said: or take offers in the £50m-£60m category if you think West Ham will take that for Rice this coming summer, I have a bridge to sell you CHEAP!!! ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,110 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 16 hours ago, Clockwork said: Heard good things about Enzo Fernández, thoughts on him? Also huge fan of Bruno Guimarães. Those are some good options for midfield. https://www.si.com/soccer/liverpool/transfers/report-liverpool-could-spend-big-on-enzo-fernandez-in-january Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,127 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 41 minutes ago, ulvhedin said: Unfortunately no player from current youth teams looks like is ready to make a step to the 1st team, Lewis Hall is propably the closest one, hopefully Hutchinson and Casadei will progress nicely later in the season. Agree with this though Hutchinson is impressing and is possibly above Lewis now in my reckoning. Casadei will have to deal with another suspension after his second 'two yellows equals red' of the season last weekend. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: You must have something against Zouma, he was a solid defender on his day. For a relatively low profile signing at the time (think it was around 12 million + add ons), he worked out perfectly for the club. Comparing him to a potential Declan Rice transfer is quite harsh as Zouma didn't arrive with an inflated price tag and a massive ego to go with it, we brought here on potential. Solid enough defender but when he was tasked with ball playing and ball carrying responsibilities he was all at sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 So people are now pretending Zouma wasn't an absolute calamity when he was pressed. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 19 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: Agree with this though Hutchinson is impressing and is possibly above Lewis now in my reckoning. Casadei will have to deal with another suspension after his second 'two yellows equals red' of the season last weekend. Ok, you are right, especially after last evening 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,110 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 17 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: So people are now pretending Zouma wasn't an absolute calamity when he was pressed. His cat agrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,676 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 19 hours ago, Tomo said: Solid enough defender but when he was tasked with ball playing and ball carrying responsibilities he was all at sea. I agree but forcing a player to do something they are not good at just points to poor man management by the manager in charge. It's like a manager asking a wide player/winger to "track back" or play out of position as a wingback because the manager is too lazy to adapt his tactics to the players at his disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,676 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 18 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: So people are now pretending Zouma wasn't an absolute calamity when he was pressed. So people are now pretending that Zouma didn't help the defense at all, especially when the opposition would break at pace against us on a counter and Zouma was often the only one trying to make a challenge as Cahill was absolutely cooked by any decent counter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) On 17/10/2022 at 19:47, Vesper said: All time single season most goals (35) by a MFer in topflight, top 10 European league history is hardly 'master of none'. Plus 20 assists, and is already at 10 goals this season. Have you even watched him play to any sort of extensive amount? Nope, those numbers wasn't from midfield. While Nkunku is versatile like Havertz was at Leverkusen, he only look decent as either second striker or no. 10. If we are planning to use him as a winger, might as well sign someone like Kvaratskhelia instead. Edited October 19, 2022 by Blues Forever Magic Lamps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 What do you guys think about Zubimendi? Is he Chelsea-level player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Blues Forever said: Nope, those numbers wasn't from midfield. While Nkunku is versatile like Havertz was at Leverkusen, he only look decent as either second striker or no. 10. If we are planning to use him as a winger, might as well sign someone like Kvaratskhelia instead. I am really not very sold on Nkunku, he screams to me another Budesliga attacker that does well over their because of the space he is afforded like Werner, Sancho, Kai etc. Kvaratskhelia looks more like someone who would adapt quickly in the PL. Edited October 19, 2022 by King Kante DDA, Clockwork and laura90 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 7 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: I agree but forcing a player to do something they are not good at just points to poor man management by the manager in charge. It's like a manager asking a wide player/winger to "track back" or play out of position as a wingback because the manager is too lazy to adapt his tactics to the players at his disposal. What's the alternative we change our system to something which isn't really "the trend" at the top in the present day (hence Mou's decline) to accommodate a good but not great defender? Apart from Lampard all our post Mou managers did manage the situation properly. Conte and Tuchel loaned/sold him at the first avaliable opportunity while Sarri let him go before he even kicked a competitive ball for him. OneMoSalah and Strike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 8 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: So people are now pretending that Zouma didn't help the defense at all, especially when the opposition would break at pace against us on a counter and Zouma was often the only one trying to make a challenge as Cahill was absolutely cooked by any decent counter. Literally no one said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,104 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: I agree but forcing a player to do something they are not good at just points to poor man management by the manager in charge. It's like a manager asking a wide player/winger to "track back" or play out of position as a wingback because the manager is too lazy to adapt his tactics to the players at his disposal. Being comfortable on the ball is an essential to being a modern day professional footballer though? Even more so as a central defender in this day and age where every Tom, Dick or Harry is a Guardiola acolyte. I mean every half decent team in Europe is proactive with the ball and able to play out to a reasonable degree. So is it really poor man management? Absolutely not. 4 hours ago, King Kante said: I am really not very sold on Nkunku, he screams to me another Budesliga attacker that does well over their because of the space he is afforded like Werner, Sancho, Kai etc. Kvaratskhelia looks more like someone who would adapt quickly in the PL. Kvaratskhelia looks like he could be a good player but again, a lot of people are basing this off of like 15 games from his time in Italy with Napoli. And thats it. Still too early to be entirely convinced that he is the real deal and I think he would be wise to remain at Napoli for another season at least and repeat what he’s doing so far. Although football doesn’t always work like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,110 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 8 hours ago, Blues Forever said: Nope, those numbers wasn't from midfield. While Nkunku is versatile like Havertz was at Leverkusen, he only look decent as either second striker or no. 10. If we are planning to use him as a winger, might as well sign someone like Kvaratskhelia instead. his numbers are off the chain no matter where he is 'officially' listed as playing, stop hating how much have you watched him play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DDA 10,241 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 That Kvaratsheilaosijfjdjc fella looks tailor made to play in The Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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