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33 minutes ago, Pizy said:

We’ve had reports over the past few days that we haven’t even bid or been in contact with our supposed top 2 targets (Haaland & Hakimi). So unless we’re secretly working on signings that no journalists have a clue about (which is entirely possible!) then we really may be doing nothing at this point. Maybe waiting in players who are still playing in the Euro’s.

Not targeting at you specifically but this is what happens when people just believe every Tom, Dick, Harry on transfers out there and then when reliable sources say we haven't bid, negotiated etc, they get all mad, start to curse etc. It's the same case every bloody summer. It's like groundhog day!

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1 minute ago, Special Juan said:

That ex WHU employee on twitter confirming the noises about Rice are true regarding contract offers to him have been below what Yarmolenko is currently on.

So, West Ham value Rice highly but want to pay him below what Yarmolenko is earning? 🤣

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6 minutes ago, Hermione said:

Rice is a pretty poor player overall baffles my mind why some even want him, for 25-30£ millions at most he would be okay for squad depth but above that it's just poor, would rather we get that French midfielder from Monaco, who actually looks already like first team quality.

Also Rice's obsession with Mount is pretty creepy to say at least, if he went to a rival I doubt most of us would care as he simply isn't that good to begin with.

I rate him at £60m max (because of English tax)

zero chance I would drop £100m on him, zero

my top DMF targets are simple 

the pipe dreams


Joshua Kimmich  (IF he refuses to renew due to Bayern low-balling his salary, which is now in play but still a SUPER long shot, plus will not come into play until next summer,, as he is signed until end of June, 2023)


Nicolò Barella (as close to a Kante type as there is out there, but he would be insanely expensive now, and no clue if he would leave Italy, he did not want to last time, when we made a big run at him)

then the realistic trad DMF's


Aurélien Tchouaméni
Manuel Locatelli

Declan Rice    
Boubacar Kamara  (can play CB as well, and is now so cheap, as Marseille are financially fucked)  

 

Hybrids (CMF/DMF) all are teens atm
    
Eduardo Camavinga    turns 19 in 4 and a half months
Jude Bellingham   (give him another year or two, he just turned 18yo 2 days ago)
Ryan Gravenberch turns 20yo in 10 and a half months, more CMF than DMF atm
Bruno Guimarães

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Mbappe gives off the vibe that he’s kind of arrogant and self centered to me. Not to CR7 or Zlatan levels of course but still. I can only ever see him at Real Madrid if he leaves PSG.

Don’t think anyone else would be considered from his POV. 

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3 hours ago, Pizy said:

United may have several top quality signings sealed and delivered before we even actually bid on anyone. It’s like the reverse of last summer where we were doing business left and right and United fans were screaming bloody murder at their club for doing fuck all.

The CL win has done a lot to calm the concern but seeing other teams starting to drastically improve while we’re silent is annoying. United we’re always going to go big this summer so it’s not a shock. But I figured we’d attack the market for the few needs we have and get our business done swiftly. That’s clearly not happening.

Because last summer's window means we have a good enough team and most importantly coach to wait to the right signing. We're a lot better than the league position suggests as we showed by winning the UCL barely breaking sweat. 

United despite finishing above us need a lot more work, especially with Ole at the wheel, to even muster up anything resembling a challenge. With their coaching handicap they need world class DM, CB, RB, ST and GK.

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32 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

We could bid £100m - £120m for Mbappe now and sign Haaland next summer for £65m. 🙃

We are not playing Manager mode in Fifa 20. And in Fifa 21, I have managed to get Haaland for £120m + Isak (£62 mil) 🤣. Jokes apart, Werner won't be sold and Mbappe will prefer Madrid next season than Chelsea this season. Moreover, we cannot afford two Marquee signing as it will destroy our wages structures. 

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12 minutes ago, Mana said:

No no...we really aren't. We may won the UCL, but there are still cracks especially going forward that seriously needs to be rectified.

If we take out the UCL final, our final run of games has been a disaster. We should have claimed top 4 at least a game to spare. We should have done better in the FA Cup final.

You can't just brush these things under the carpet because we won the UCL. We are very unlikely to retain the UCL next season because this squad just isn't good enough going forward.

We finished 4th because we had two months worth of relegation form when Lampard lost the plot.

Since Tuchel has came in we're 2nd on the form table, won a UCL without breaking sweat (very few win this thing without getting some rub of the green in a crucial moment, even the greatest ever were a better first touch from Bendtner away from going out) and won almost every big game alongside that.

If a genuine upgrade to what we've got (and also fits the system Tuchel is trying to implement) becomes available then by all means go for it, but signing for signings sake is what put us on the road of 4 years in a top four battle in the first place. Remember in January 2020 people here were in meltdowns because our rivals signed the likes of Bergwijn, Igahlo, Gedson and Pablo Mari? Imagine what a mess our squad would look like right now with those four in it.

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16 minutes ago, avrobsws said:

We are not playing Manager mode in Fifa 20. And in Fifa 21, I have managed to get Haaland for £120m + Isak (£62 mil) 🤣. Jokes apart, Werner won't be sold and Mbappe will prefer Madrid next season than Chelsea this season. Moreover, we cannot afford two Marquee signing as it will destroy our wages structures. 

I'm just joking, fully aware we can't afford both Mbappe and Haaland as they are 100% destroying our wages structures.

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5 hours ago, Jype said:

As long as a loan club pays for the full salary and covers the remaining amortisation value as a loan fee, it makes perfect sense to extend if the player was willing to do it.

Bakayoko right now has a year left on his contract so amortisation value of €8M for next year. If he were to extend it would go down to €4M a year for the next two years which means the player is "cheaper" on the club's books and it would be more probable to find a club that pays for the full costs during the loan and then hopefully the same club would then take up the option to buy next summer.

Surely the transfer market hasn't fully gotten over COVID yet and most clubs (especially Italian ones) still can't afford to pay a lot for players but perhaps next year they could. If the club think loan fee + future transfer fee is bigger than whatever next-to-nothing fee they could get for the player in these circumstances it's only smart business to try to renew the contract.  Bakayoko however doesn't seem too keen so it's up to the club to find a permanent new home for him this year.

A lot of if's mate but I see your point. Still just get rid, he is not exactly screaming quality with tons of clubs after him, and he rejected the offer anyway. Get rid.

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1 hour ago, Mana said:

No no...we really aren't. We may won the UCL, but there are still cracks especially going forward that seriously needs to be rectified.

If we take out the UCL final, our final run of games has been a disaster. We should have claimed top 4 at least a game to spare. We should have done better in the FA Cup final.

You can't just brush these things under the carpet because we won the UCL. We are very unlikely to retain the UCL next season because this squad just isn't good enough going forward.

Spot on. We are nowhere near challenging City over a 38 game season without serious investment in 2-3 positions. Never mind a much improved Liverpool and Man United. And then there’s Leicester who have already made 3 excellent signings and aren’t going anywhere.

We simply don’t have the clinical goal scoring in our side to compete for the title as we are currently constructed.

We may not need to plug as many holes as United do but the few holes we do have are much more glaring and important.

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19 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Spot on. We are nowhere near challenging City over a 38 game season without serious investment in 2-3 positions. Never mind a much improved Liverpool and Man United. And then there’s Leicester who have already made 3 excellent signings and aren’t going anywhere.

We simply don’t have the clinical goal scoring in our side to compete for the title as we are currently constructed.

We may not need to plug as many holes as United do but the few holes we do have are much more glaring and important.

If someone said in February we'll win the UCL going toe to toe with our opponents without relying on any real luck along away they'd have been laughed at, this a very very talented squad that was made to look poor by Frank's meltdown/unableness to fit the star signings into a system.

If we had a team of players with no (or a long distant) proven goal record I would agree (ie when Costa left and we only had Hazard) but we have a lot of scorers in our side who for many mitigating reason's all had poor season's at the same time. And the thing is, we don't even need one to improve by 20, we need all to improve by 5 on average which is very much doable.

The reality is we invested hundreds of millions into top class players who are a lot better then they looked/were made to look for most of last season and we've brought in one of the world's best coaches to find a way to get the best out of them, which I'm confident he will. If we're just going to keep throwing shit at the wall whenever signings don't hit the ground running we may aswell just get ourselves a man manager type manager.

Yes they "could" all carry on struggling but they on the flip side also "could" all have a Drogba esque 2nd/3rd season improvement now they're more settled into the country and are riding the UCL (and possibly for some the Euro's) wave.

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