Jase 43,479 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 7 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Mane’s goals dried up which is why having a natural CF in and around the box is better no? Liverpool still created chances just lacked someone to put them in the net because Firmino was probably positioned more as a number 10. I don't see what Mane's goals drying up has to do with having a CF or not when that approach has worked for Liverpool under Klopp. It just so happened that Mane suddenly had an average season - in a pandemic season no less - and it's also why Klopp bought another option in Jota but he got injured and missed out for several months. 7 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Kane wont really need to drop deep at City though as often to the extent he does for Spurs. Obviously he will do his bit and that, more than Aguero or Jesus but I mean why would he need to do it as often when creative players like Foden, de Bruyne, Bernardo Silva, Gundogan etc are going to be there and putting chances on a plate for him? It would be baffling if he did it as frequently as at Spurs in that team. Spurs were lacking creativity in midfield to get Son and Bale in behind teams which probably contributed to why Kane dropped deep on top of Mourinho’s approach. And even then he did it for god knows how long after their good start with Jose (most of his assists came in the first half of the season IIRC, 10 of the 14 before December. 4 alone v Southampton where they played that suicide high line which is one of the stupidest defensive performances I think I have ever seen) and all it really did was take away from Spur’s attacking play (also Mourinho's set up didn’t help but I mean how you meant to go a bit longer/over the top if your CF is playing as a number 10 in his own half?) Maybe Kane won't need to drop so deep but it's still known that Guardiola tends to like someone who can drop deep, link up play, create chances for others etc to have that fluidity going forward as opposed to someone just sticking around the box waiting for the ball to come. 7 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: I get a CF has to be of a decent standard at linking up the play but the likes of Haaland etc we aren’t talking League 2 levels here. Most of these top CFs/options we will look at will probably all play in fairly good teams where they need to do more than just score goals. Its almost a prerequisite now a days for strikers. So if they are very good at it or average at it, as long as they score goals regularly, that will be more important. 100%. Missing the point again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 56 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Would be funny if we do not get Haaland and Hakimi lol. Tuchel probably furious then. He hates it when he does not get his wish transfers Yes, Tuchel could implode like Conte in 17/18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,207 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 9 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: If true, we need to stop fucking about and just get it done. The only other RWB who is doable AND potentially at Hakimi level (Silas) is out with a knee injury and needs to be watched to see if he recovers. All others after those 2 are not at their level (Hakimi) or potential, pre injury level (Silas). I am going to be gutted if PSG pulls Hakimi. He is a best in world (at a specific position, in his case right wingback) vision target, as is Håland (in a year or two for Erling, as Lewa will fade, and he will become the best pure CF). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Blues Forever said: If the negotiations for Tomori were anything to go by, Milan won't get anywhere with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Jas said: If the negotiations for Tomori were anything to go by, Milan won't get anywhere with this. Yeah, they'll be telling Ziyech on one hand he is world class, whilst on the other asking us for a loan with us covering 50% of his wages. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 3 hours ago, killer1257 said: Would be funny if we do not get Haaland and Hakimi lol. Tuchel probably furious then. He hates it when he does not get his wish transfers You say funny, I say a nightmare. Don't need another 2017 again, that Summer was disastrous. I am personally amazed we have been able to recover from it so fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,207 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, King Kante said: You say funny, I say a nightmare. Don't need another 2017 again, that Summer was disastrous. I am personally amazed we have been able to recover from it so fast. IF this is true (and a fee agreement happens) welcome to the nightmare 😿 ‘Total agreement’ reached, as Chelsea, Man Utd target Haaland makes his move https://www.teamtalk.com/news/total-agreement-Chelsea-man-utd-haaland-transfer-real-madrid Chelsea and Man Utd target Erling Haaland has edged closer to a blockbuster transfer after reaching a ‘total agreement’ with his proposed next club, per a report. The Norwegian sensation, 20, is one of the most sought after footballers in the European game. Since moving to Borussia Dortmund, Haaland has operated at marginally below a goal every game. In the most recent season, he notched exactly 41 strikes from 41 outings. Unsurprisingly, the heavy hitters took note, but it now appears a Bundesliga exit could happen sooner than many believed. From an English perspective, Chelsea and Man Utd appeared to be leading the way for his signature. Man Utd’s immediate need diminished slightly when Edinson Cavani signed on for an additional year. But acquiring Haaland would represent a longer term option and will secure the No.9 spot for a decade wherever he goes. Chelsea are on the hunt for a clinical centre forward to remedy their attacking issues. Thomas Tuchel has his Blues side purring. But Timo Werner failed to convince in his maiden year in England. That led to Kai Havertz often being deployed as a false nine. However, according to noted Italian journalist Alfredo Pedulla of SportItalia, both sides are set to miss out. That’s because they report that Real Madrid have reached a ‘total agreement’ with the marksman over personal terms. Haaland is on board with taking his next step in Spain, but the matter of convincing Dortmund to sell remains in play. Edited June 22, 2021 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Please say not to all Spanish strikers . 😁 Erling Goaland or nothing . Chelsea identify Villareal`s Gerard Moreno as alternative to Erling Haaland CFC# Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,207 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) We HAVE to restart the new stadium. Soon Barca and Real BOTH will have new, 1 billion euros a piece completed renovated/redone 'best football stadiums on the planet' homes, PSG is in the process of a half billion euro+ redo, and Manure and Liverpool will keep on renovating and expanding Old Shitford and Spamfield. Spuds have a state of the art giant new stadium, same for Juve and Atletico. Citeh have dumped over a billion into their combined physical plant, Arse will soon do a renovation, etc etc (even EVERTON soon has brand new stadium, ffs). The only other clubs in terms of the giant old powers with a huge issue besides us (and they still dwarf us capacity-wise) are the 2 Milan sides, as COVID and financial issues are helping to collapse the new shared stadium for them atm. IF we are trying to get 'best players on the planet at their positions' players, our stadium crushes us in both revenue and pulling power (it is tiny and run down, so so not remotely world class). I cannot stress how important this already is, and it will only get worse as the years roll by. Edited June 22, 2021 by Vesper Muzchap and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,207 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, King Kante said: You say funny, I say a nightmare. Don't need another 2017 again, that Summer was disastrous. I am personally amazed we have been able to recover from it so fast. 2017 and 2018. A disastrous run of windows and poor decisions then and later on that will end up costing us half a billion+ in lost funds when the books are finally closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,207 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 I will keep this simple HELL NO TO GERARD MORENO Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,937 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 How would two pure #9’s in Benzema and Haaland coexist? Benzema just had a great season and even at close to 34 doesn’t look close to finished. Them signing Haaland doesn’t make much sense at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Can we please stop taking something seriously that Pedulla said King Kante and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,207 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) only CF options for me IF we miss out on Håland AND IF we still buy one Dominic Calvert-Lewin (price makes this unlikely) Dusan Vlahovic (probably the CF I would buy, as I doubt Sociedad comes down from Isak's RC) Alexander Isak (his release clause is too high though) Youssef En-Nesyri Jonathan David Adam Hlozek (18yo youth player, MASSIVE upside) Edited June 22, 2021 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 What a farce and blatant click bait article. TOTAL AGREEMENT REACHED....yet if you actually read it it states "Real are stated to only be willing to bid slightly above €100m. Clearly, this saga could run and run." Add the fact 99% of the population know Real are broke, this is some conjured up bollocks. King Kante 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Vesper said: I will keep this simple HELL NO TO GERARD MORENO lol yeah he has been disappointing in the euros as well he played a very decent season and scored quite a couple of good goals but he went missing in some big moments and might share some of the blame if Spain drop out. also has athletic deficiencies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,207 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Pizy said: How would two pure #9’s in Benzema and Haaland coexist? Benzema just had a great season and even at close to 34 doesn’t look close to finished. Them signing Haaland doesn’t make much sense at this point. that isn't how things work and Benz IS ageing out, it will happen soon IF Real can work out the fee, Håland will be gone to them we are a small club compared to Real and Barca all others are, even Manure, Juve, Pool, us, Citeh, PSG, AC MIlan, and even Bayern, and those 2 new billion euro+ stadiums will smash that difference home every day after they open I expect Barca to dip a bit when Messi retires/leaves, but they will recover Real can lose any player, no matter who, and they are just always going to be the biggest club is that fair? life isn't fair Edited June 22, 2021 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,207 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: lol yeah he has been disappointing in the euros as well he played a very decent season and scored quite a couple of good goals but he went missing in some big moments and might share some of the blame if Spain drop out. also has athletic deficiencies and is soon 30yo, so has shit for resale value if he is a bust after two seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Pizy said: How would two pure #9’s in Benzema and Haaland coexist? Benzema just had a great season and even at close to 34 doesn’t look close to finished. Them signing Haaland doesn’t make much sense at this point. Financial factor aside, Real Madrid are gonna have to rebuild that squad sooner or later. It's stale, some of the players are already old (including Benzema) and some are just average. Plus when you look at their struggles last season, it's no surprise they're looking at Haaland (or Mbappe or whoever else). Benzema was their top scorer with 30 goals and their next highest goalscorer is Asensio and Casemiro...on 7 goals. How would Benzema and Haaland coexist? I wouldn't rule out someone like Ancelotti to make it work. This is the same manager that made Ronaldo, Bale and Benzema (remember the famous BBC?) work as a front three with someone like James supporting them from midfield. He always finds a way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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