Chelsea Transfers

[Vesper 30,106]

Claim player has asked Chelsea ‘for bigger role or to be sold’ – Two clubs in Italy vying for his signature

http://sportwitness.co.uk/claim-player-asked-Chelsea-bigger-role-sold-two-clubs-italy-vying-signature/

Chelsea’s Hakim Ziyech is a target for AC Milan and Napoli this summer after asking to be sold if there are not more opportunities for him next season.

That’s according to the journalists at Radio CRC, relayed by Area Napoli, who say the former could have an advantage over their rivals.

Ziyech arrived at Chelsea last summer in a big-money move from Ajax, having established himself a star man for the Dutch giants in both the Eredivisie and Champions League.

However, he struggled for form in his first season in England, failing to be the star man under both Frank Lampard and his replacement Thomas Tuchel.

[Vesper 30,106]

ML: Not only Giroud, Tomori and Ziyech – Milan evaluating unwanted €40m Chelsea forward

https://sempremilan.com/ml-not-only-giroud-tomori-and-ziyech-milan-evaluating-unwanted-e40m-Chelsea-forward

The axis between AC Milan and Chelsea is a very hot one at the moment and now a new potential target has been linked with the Rossoneri.

According to MilanLive, Milan are keen on signing Chelsea striker Tammy Abraham as there is a chance that the England forward would continue to find no playing time with the London club, especially given their links with Erling Haaland and other strikers.

If the Blues are to seriously pursue Haaland they would need a sale to raise funds and free a spot in the squad, and even though Abraham scored 12 goals last season Thomas Tuchel does not consider him a first choice.

The Abraham hypothesis is possible for Milan but still not very easy, as the 23-year-old is under contract until 2023 and has interest from the Premier League, with West Ham keen among others. One of the main obstacles would be the cost of the transfer fee, as Chelsea would want €40m for him. A loan with option to buy deal, like the Fikayo Tomori one, could get it done.

 

We should demand Romagnoli and Theo Hernandez for the 4 of them

toss in Emerson too if they pay us £20m (to replace Theo)

 

the money works

The most we will get for Emerson is £20m, so call that a wash

 

Giroud is £3m tops

Tammy £40m

Tomori £25m (they owe us this anyway)

Ziyech £35m

 

£103m

 

 

Romagnoli is worth £40m

Theo is worth £60m

£100m

(and let's be honest, £20m for Emerson is 3 to 5m more than he is worth in this market)

 

we solve our left-footed CB issue

we now have 2 of the top 4 LB's in the world (Theo can also play CB in a pinch, and I would think that Tuchel could turn him into a DMF option too)

and they get 5 quality players

also frees us up to dump Zouma and Alonso (should pull in £45-50m or so)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jype 6,398]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

He maybe switching to the Ghana NT too, which means he is gone for a month mid-season if he does so.

How can he switch? He's already declared for England and played in competitive matches (Euro 2020 qualifiers). As far as I'm aware, you can't switch after that anymore. Friendlies don't count but competitive games mean he's locked for England, right?

[Vesper 30,106]

3 minutes ago, Jype said:

How can he switch? He's already declared for England and played in competitive matches (Euro 2020 qualifiers). As far as I'm aware, you can't switch after that anymore. Friendlies don't count but competitive games mean he's locked for England, right?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/hudson-odoi-uncertainty-Chelsea-england-24270961

His struggles for the Stamford Bridge outfit have limited his England chances, with Hudson-Odoi making three senior outings for Gareth Southgate's squad; his last coming in the 4-0 win over Kosovo in November 2019.

And it has now emerged that Hudson-Odoi is considering a possible international change, with Ghana keen on securing his services.

With three Three Lions appearances already, one more cap would permanently tie him down to the country of his birth.

[Jype 6,398]

6 minutes ago, Vesper said:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/hudson-odoi-uncertainty-Chelsea-england-24270961

His struggles for the Stamford Bridge outfit have limited his England chances, with Hudson-Odoi making three senior outings for Gareth Southgate's squad; his last coming in the 4-0 win over Kosovo in November 2019.

And it has now emerged that Hudson-Odoi is considering a possible international change, with Ghana keen on securing his services.

With three Three Lions appearances already, one more cap would permanently tie him down to the country of his birth.

They must have changed the rules for international eligibility then.

I remember in the past it's always been one competitive game and that's it, no more changes. Previously the only exception to that rule was the forming of a whole new national team like Kosovo a few years ago and players who were eligible for Kosovo but had played for other national teams were allowed to switch if they wanted but other dual nationals could only switch allegiances at youth international level after appearing for one country but full internationals were locked.

In that case declaring for Ghana could be really good for CHO himself. Can't see him getting back to the England team anytime soon with players like Sancho, Foden, Grealish Rashford, Sterling, Mount etc. to compete with.

Edited June 8, 2021 by Jype

[Vesper 30,106]

59 minutes ago, Jype said:

They must have changed the rules for international eligibility then.

I remember in the past it's always been one competitive game and that's it, no more changes. Previously the only exception to that rule was the forming of a whole new national team like Kosovo a few years ago and players who were eligible for Kosovo but had played for other national teams were allowed to switch if they wanted but other dual nationals could only switch allegiances at youth international level after appearing for one country but full internationals were locked.

In that case declaring for Ghana could be really good for CHO himself. Can't see him getting back to the England team anytime soon with players like Sancho, Foden, Grealish Rashford, Sterling, Mount etc. to compete with.

In September 2020, the 70th edition of the FIFA Congress approved a rule change that now allows players to switch if they have played no more than three competitive matches at senior level prior to them turning 21.

[Vesper 30,106]

2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

In September 2020, the 70th edition of the FIFA Congress approved a rule change that now allows players to switch if they have played no more than three competitive matches at senior level prior to them turning 21.

https://www.goal.com/en-tza/news/why-footballers-change-international-teams-eligibility-rules-new-/qzqdkqcx0x871eprs8yywafpz

What are the new eligibility rules?

The new eligibility rules build on the foundation of the rules that had already been in place prior to September 2020.

So, the basis of the eligibility rules is effectively the same, but there have been a number of clarifications and some additional insertions.

In particular, FIFA has added three new exceptions whereby a player may change the national team they play for.

First, it is now possible for a player to change national team even if they have played competitively at senior level, provided:

1. the player held the nationality of their new association at the time of their first official appearance for their first national team.
2. the player played in no more than three competitive senior games before the age of 21.
3. the player has not played in the final stage of an official tournament such as the World Cup, European Championship, Copa America etc.
4. at least three years have passed since the player's last senior appearance for their previous national team.

So, a player who is eligible for England and Republic of Ireland could, for the sake of argument, play for England in three World Cup 2022 qualification games, then represent Ireland at the 2026 World Cup. The opposite - playing at a World Cup then switching - is not permitted.

Second, a player can now change to a new national team even if they did not hold that nationality at the time of their first appearance for their old national team, as long as they last played for the old national team before the age of 21.

It should be noted that there is an exception underpinned by the principle of legal certainty, whereby the age limit of 21 does not apply to players who played their last match for their old national team prior to September 18, 2020, when the new rules were introduced. This exception explains why Aymeric Laporte, who played for France Under-21s at the age of 21 in 2016, is permitted to switch to Spain.

Finally, a competitive cap will not keep a player tied to a national team in the event that they suddenly become stateless - that is, lose their nationality - against their will.

 

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4 hours ago, Vesper said:

Stuttgart’s Wamangituka reveals real name & age after ‘manipulation’ by ex-agent

https://theathletic.com/news/silas-wamangituka-stuttgart-agent-name-age/9WUAkkg1mTAI

Stuttgart’s Silas Wamangituka has revealed his name and age were false after being the “victim of manipulation by his former player agent”.

Documentation has come to light that, according to Stuttgart, proves the Congolese forward’s real name is Silas Katompa Mvumpa and that he is 22, rather than 21 (his age listed on the Bundesliga’s official website as of 1.30pm BST on June 8).

Silas, as Stuttgart now refer to him, has worked with Stuttgart and a new agent to obtain his correct records from the Democratic Republic of Congo and clarify his identity. Due to his situation, Silas says he has been “living in fear”.

The forward won this season’s Bundesliga Rookie of the Year after Stuttgart’s promotion.

How did this happen?

Stuttgart say that following a trial with Anderlecht in 2017, “an agent is said to have put Silas under considerable pressure in Belgium and convinced him that he would not be allowed to return to Europe if he left Belgium and went back to Congo.

“Silas trusted the agent and went to live with him in Paris. He then changed his identity and papers were created for him in the name of Silas Wamangituka (one of the names of his father) and with a date of birth that was exactly one year different from his own, 6 October 1999.

“From this point onwards, Silas was under the influence of the agent who syphoned off part of his wages and threatened him that he would never play football again if the matter ever became public.

“Thanks to his considerable efforts to clear up the situation, Silas now has a valid Congolese passport with his correct personal details.”

The club noted that Silas “had been the victim of manipulation by his former player agent and that Wamangituka is not his real name”.

What has Silas said?

“Over the past few years, I was constantly living in fear and was also very worried for my family in Congo,” he told the club website.

“It was a tough step for me to take to make my story public and I would never have had the courage to do so if Stuttgart, my team and VfB had not become like a second home and a safe place to me.”

Stuttgart sporting director Sven Mislintat added: “First and foremost, Silas has been the victim of this change of name.

“I have the greatest respect for the fact that at a young age, he has taken the brave step to clarify his situation. We will continue to give him all the help he needs in absolutely every respect.”

How has he performed at Stuttgart?

Since joining from Paris FC in 2019, Silas has been a key player for Stuttgart.

In his first year in Germany, he scored seven goals as Stuttgart were promoted to the Bundesliga.

Silas kicked on in his debut top-flight campaign, registering 11 goals and five assists as Stuttgart enjoyed a ninth-placed finish, and firmly established himself as a highly-rated Bundesliga talent.

He looks a lot older than 22. This age and false documents is not rare with some African players. There has been question marks on many African born stars.

[Special Juan 28,124]

Ziyech should be sold he's brutal, an absolute one trick pony.

[King Kante 1,643]

32 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Ziyech should be sold he's brutal, an absolute one trick pony.

Ziyech does look the most likely to be sold from the AM unit. It is probably also better we do this sooner rather than later as one more dud season and he could enter the deadwood realm. 

[Tomo 21,751]

4 hours ago, Vesper said:

He maybe switching to the Ghana NT too, which means he is gone for a month mid-season if he does so.

He's already played competitively for England.

Edit: already been covered

Edited June 8, 2021 by Tomo

[Pizy 18,866]

I’d be sad to see Ziyech go before we get to see the best of him. Sell him in January if he continues to struggle.

Let’s at least see what he can do with a nice, full preseason and full fitness. 

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, Pizy said:

I’d be sad to see Ziyech go before we get to see the best of him. Sell him in January if he continues to struggle.

Let’s at least see what he can do with a nice, full preseason and full fitness. 

There's the AFCON next January.

I don't think he'll be sold this summer unless a club make an enticing offer for him. The club would probably want at least 40 million.

[King Kante 1,643]

19 minutes ago, Jas said:

There's the AFCON next January.

I don't think he'll be sold this summer unless a club make an enticing offer for him. The club would probably want at least 40 million.

Can see us doing £30m. Problem we have is that we have a lot of AM's and none of them proved consistent enough at scoring last season. Ziyech at his age should have been hitting the ground running. 

In my opinion, getting our money back (£33.5m) or close to it, with him going to Spain/Italy is a good thing all round. We have hardly lost anything and he gets to play he a league that isn't too physical for him. 

Edited June 8, 2021 by King Kante

[Jase 43,479]

4 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Can see us doing £30m. Problem we have is that we have a lot of AM's and none of them proved consistent enough at scoring last season. Ziyech at his age should have been hitting the ground running. 

But it was still a pandemic season, he had some injuries and things went south under Lampard. 

5 minutes ago, King Kante said:

In my opinion, getting our money back (£33.5m) or close to it, with him going to Spain/Italy is a good thing all round. We have hardly lost anything and he gets to play he a league that isn't too physical for him. 

Right or wrong, not sure if Marina sees it that way based on the price she puts on the other players.