Chelsea Transfers

[King Kante 1,524]

10 minutes ago, Alabama said:

Unpopular opinion...

How about Hector Bellerin in lieu of Adama Traore for the right wing back role if he will fancy the move and want to win trophy...

I would also love Lautauro Martinez if Jadon Sancho ends up in United(though I will be gutted going to that shit defensive team). As Martinez is South American he has that steel vibe and aura suitable for premier league though not yet a clinical finisher yet he is class  and on his way of becoming a deadly world class finisher...Because Haaland Kane and Lukaku transfer will not happen....

No, we need more robust players and not anymore weak players. One of the reasons we get rolled over by the likes of WBA so often is because we bend over without a fight too often. 

As for Martinez, I am not sold on him, kind if seems to me when I watch him as very similar to Alexis Sanchez but not quite as good as Sanchez was at his peak. 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

11 minutes ago, Alabama said:

Unpopular opinion...

How about Hector Bellerin in lieu of Adama Traore for the right wing back role if he will fancy the move and want to win trophy...

I would also love Lautauro Martinez if Jadon Sancho ends up in United(though I will be gutted going to that shit defensive team). As Martinez is South American he has that steel vibe and aura suitable for premier league though not yet a clinical finisher yet he is class  and on his way of becoming a deadly world class finisher...Because Haaland Kane and Lukaku transfer will not happen....

Might as well save our money and use Livramento instead.

[Pizy 18,509]

Every option is going to be off the table pretty quickly by the look of it. Any teeny, tiny sliver of hope for Haaland will be gone if they sell Sancho to United. So that’ll be literally every striker we’ve been linked with (Aguero, Kane, Lukaku, Haaland) out of reach before we’ve really even got started.

Is that kid from Fiorentina good enough to take a punt on? 

[Jype 6,398]

If all top striker options are out of the question for this summer, I probably wouldn't mind sticking with Havertz in the false 9 role and Werner / Broja other options depending on tactical setup. Seems like a better bet than going for some second rate option who'd still cost a lot of money. Would prefer Tammy to stay if that's the case but he looks too far gone and Tuchel clearly doesn't rate him.

Choosing not to spend on a striker would likely leave a massive budget for improving other areas. Then just need to win back-to-back CLs and get Haaland next year. 🤣

[NikkiCFC 8,067]

Everyone speaking about Broja but Ugbo had even better season. 

[Jype 6,398]

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

Chelsea chief Marina Granovskaia targets Atletico Madrid star as new N'Golo Kante partner

Romano also just said Chelsea could be in the running for Saul Niguez.

Can't say I've watched much of Atletico in the last couple of years but I've always rated Saul. Could be a good fit in Tuchel's midfield.

[Jype 6,398]

1 minute ago, NikkiCFC said:

Everyone speaking about Broja but Ugbo had even better season. 

Nah.

For starters Eredivisie > Belgian League any day and not to mention Broja is a full three years younger than Ugbo, at such young age being 19 or 22 makes a massive difference.

Can't see much of a future at the club for Ugbo (the club even allowed a buy option for his latest loan) but for Broja the club seem to be very much invested in his future, hence contract extension plans and invite for pre-season.

[King Kante 1,524]

13 minutes ago, Jype said:

Nah.

For starters Eredivisie > Belgian League any day and not to mention Broja is a full three years younger than Ugbo, at such young age being 19 or 22 makes a massive difference.

Can't see much of a future at the club for Ugbo (the club even allowed a buy option for his latest loan) but for Broja the club seem to be very much invested in his future, hence contract extension plans and invite for pre-season.

Yeah, Ugbo will be sold in my opinion to raise some cash. 

[Superblue 6,372]

The price would have to be drastically lower than previous years, but would Zaha be a potential option?

His versatility to be comfortable to play across the front three, and most importantly he could play the central role in a false 9 capacity could make him a very useful rotational option.

If Palace are still wanting £70m then it's a complete no go, but if there demands have climbed down significantly (say the £40m bracket) then it might be worth a punt. Particularly as I don't think a signing like him hinders the potential to go in for a top striking option next summer that may become available, but in the meantime he would offer a very good attacking option and chip in with some goals.

We do have players who may be attractive to Palace who could help us cut a very reasonable price possibly.

[Jype 6,398]

8 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

The price would have to be drastically lower than previous years, but would Zaha be a potential option?

His versatility to be comfortable to play across the front three, and most importantly he could play the central role in a false 9 capacity could make him a very useful rotational option.

If Palace are still wanting £70m then it's a complete no go, but if there demands have climbed down significantly (say the £40m bracket) then it might be worth a punt. Particularly as I don't think a signing like him hinders the potential to go in for a top striking option next summer that may become available, but in the meantime he would offer a very good attacking option and chip in with some goals.

We do have players who may be attractive to Palace who could help us cut a very reasonable price possibly.

No.

The only reason the club are after a striker is to get someone who guarantees goals. As a player type Zaha would be way too similar for the lot we already have, and also not even close to being as good. No need to buy just for the sake of buying and the only attacking players we should be going after are ones who would elevate the team to a new level. Otherwise no point and better to just start hoping Werner, Havertz, Pulisic can start scoring more goals at a similar rate as they have in the past.

Edited June 4, 2021 by Jype

[Superblue 6,372]

6 minutes ago, Jype said:

No.

The only reason the club are after a striker is to get someone who guarantees goals. As a player type Zaha would be way too similar for the lot we already have, and also not even close to being as good. No need to buy just for the sake of buying and the only attacking players we should be going after are ones who would elevate the team to a new level. Otherwise no point and better to just start hoping Werner, Havertz, Pulisic can start scoring more goals at a similar rate as they have in the past.

I agree somewhat with this. I mentioned the other day that we could be getting to the point with striking options where we'd need to question whether it's better to stick with Tammy next season as a striking option to go with Havertz and Werner.

But if we end up letting Giroud and Tammy leave, we're then left with Werner, Havertz, Mount, Pulisic and Ziyech (you could argue Hudson Odoi too, although he may be better off trying to continue developing as an attacking wing back option for Tuchel). Essentially though 5 players across 3 spots in a season which could stretch to around 60 games with the Super Cup and World Club Cup added alongside the usual comps is not enough. Especially when the only two so far who have proven to be durable are Werner and Mount. 

If top targets are unobtainable, it could end up boiling down to just how prepared Tuchel may be to still work with Tammy. Otherwise we're going to have to sign someone for those attacking spots.

[Atomiswave 6,072]

Saul is quality, he would be a good fit for us and TT's style, a hard worker with a great engine.....if its true that we are interested then DR is off the table I reckon

[Jype 6,398]

3 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

But if we end up letting Giroud and Tammy leave, we're then left with Werner, Havertz, Mount, Pulisic and Ziyech (you could argue Hudson Odoi too, although he may be better off trying to continue developing as an attacking wing back option for Tuchel). Essentially though 5 players across 3 spots in a season which could stretch to around 60 games with the Super Cup and World Club Cup added alongside the usual comps is not enough. Especially when the only two so far who have proven to be durable are Werner and Mount. 

That's where I would suggest getting Broja back from loan to provide cover. He might not be ready for a big role and might never be good enough, but he's had a good season out on loan and seems to be developing in the right direction. He would still likely be a decent enough choice for some cup games and the occasional sub appearance here and there to ease the load off others. Definitely a much better option than spending a ton of money on someone like Wilfried Zaha or a stop-gap striker like Danny Ings or whoever. 

I really hope Tuchel and the board make wise decisions this summer. Either go all-in to get the top targets or don't sign anyone for the position. The squad is already  deep enough (in some areas maybe even too deep) and the problem is definitely not quantity, it's quality. If the top attacking targets are unavailable this year, spend the budget on improving other areas (ie. midfield, perhaps CB) and go back next year. That's where the club have done horribly wrong in the past by getting likes of Zappacosta, Barkley etc. rather than wait out and target top quality later on.

[ulvhedin 508]

18 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Saul is quality, he would be a good fit for us and TT's style, a hard worker with a great engine.....if its true that we are interested then DR is off the table I reckon

From what i've read from Atletico's fans he is very poor for quite long time

[Atomiswave 6,072]

19 minutes ago, ulvhedin said:

From what i've read from Atletico's fans he is very poor for quite long time

Probably true to some extent, he needs a change in atmosphere and there is no denying he is a good player. He would do good at Chels imo.

[Jase 43,479]

3 hours ago, R2D2 said:

Just heard Matt Law podcast, we basically waiting until we know for sure none of our top priority strikers are available and after maybe move and invest in other positions, problem is by that time Sancho will already be at United, hurry up.

So, just like the good old days then? Wait till the last minute and then panic buy because we can't get the main target?

Haaland is pretty much out of the question this summer, especially if/when Dortmund do sell Sancho. Lukaku could still happen if Inter can't sell 1-2 others to raise the money they need but even then, do wonder if they are desperate enough to sell their best player and face another backlash from their fans after what happened with Conte last week. 

[Jase 43,479]

52 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I agree somewhat with this. I mentioned the other day that we could be getting to the point with striking options where we'd need to question whether it's better to stick with Tammy next season as a striking option to go with Havertz and Werner.

But if we end up letting Giroud and Tammy leave, we're then left with Werner, Havertz, Mount, Pulisic and Ziyech (you could argue Hudson Odoi too, although he may be better off trying to continue developing as an attacking wing back option for Tuchel). Essentially though 5 players across 3 spots in a season which could stretch to around 60 games with the Super Cup and World Club Cup added alongside the usual comps is not enough. Especially when the only two so far who have proven to be durable are Werner and Mount. 

If top targets are unobtainable, it could end up boiling down to just how prepared Tuchel may be to still work with Tammy. Otherwise we're going to have to sign someone for those attacking spots.

Even if Tuchel does make a U-turn on Abraham, it's debatable how much of a role is he gonna give him - is he gonna be a starter or rotation option? Right now, Abraham has only 2 years left on his contract and he hasn't signed a new one because I think he wants to play week in week out. He didn't even just sign it when Lampard was still around. If he's not going to sign it, then the club would want to cash in on him this summer as opposed to next summer.

[cosmicway 1,333]

Lukaku is afraid of the premier so he decided to stay in Italy.
I kind of liked him in 2017 when United beat us to the post but not now.
I 'd like Haaland or Kane or perhaps Lew despite his age (32).