Chelsea Transfers

[King Kante 1,643]

27 minutes ago, Henrique said:

Some people never learn the lesson. Lukaku is a proven player, prolific goal scorer and a leader. In past years we already tried those player who were supposed to be the next big thing and were massive flops: Morata and Werner. Paying any money for a player like Silva from Bundesliga is a big mistake, since he will be just another Werner...but thats no surprise, months ago folks on this sub were saying they didn't want Messi because he would destroy "Lampard's project". LMAO

Mate, Lukaku failed at Utd because his first touch was awful so teams that low blocked Utd would dispossess him easily. 

His touch is still the same, so the problems he had at Utd will be the same here. Just because he he has been banging them in, in Serie A doesn't change this fact as Serie A is a poor league these days.

As for Silva, I don't think anyone is saying we must go out and buy Silva or even that he is a great player. What they are saying is that Lukaku isn't a good player and vastly overpriced at €100m and if the option is buy Lukaku at €100m or buy Silva at €35m then they would rather take the Silva deal as they do not think Lukaku is worth it.

[Mário César 1,249]

The first touch of Diego Costa was also horrible and he still was very important to won 2 epl's

and romelu had a first decent season with united

[Mário César 1,249]

46 minutes ago, Henrique said:

Some people never learn the lesson. Lukaku is a proven player, prolific goal scorer and a leader. In past years we already tried those player who were supposed to be the next big thing and were massive flops: Morata and Werner. Paying any money for a player like Silva from Bundesliga is a big mistake, since he will be just another Werner...but thats no surprise, months ago folks on this sub were saying they didn't want Messi because he would destroy "Lampard's project". LMAO

exactly my point

[Jase 43,479]

Sounds like Lukaku wants to stay at Inter..?

 

[BlueGuy 10]

45 minutes ago, Henrique said:

Some people never learn the lesson. Lukaku is a proven player, prolific goal scorer and a leader. In past years we already tried those player who were supposed to be the next big thing and were massive flops: Morata and Werner. Paying any money for a player like Silva from Bundesliga is a big mistake, since he will be just another Werner...but thats no surprise, months ago folks on this sub were saying they didn't want Messi because he would destroy "Lampard's project". LMAO

Unfortunately too many looks only stats: scores and assists and so was for Morata and Werner, IMO you should look before at skills and technique of a player and than at stats, the numbers can be vary for many reasons!

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

 

hace 37 minutos, King Kante dijo:

Mate, Lukaku failed at Utd because his first touch was awful so teams that low blocked Utd would dispossess him easily. 

His touch is still the same, so the problems he had at Utd will be the same here. Just because he he has been banging them in, in Serie A doesn't change this fact as Serie A is a poor league these days.

As for Silva, I don't think anyone is saying we must go out and buy Silva or even that he is a great player. What they are saying is that Lukaku isn't a good player and vastly overpriced at €100m and if the option is buy Lukaku at €100m or buy Silva at €35m then they would rather take the Silva deal as they do not think Lukaku is worth it.

I am sorry but what? I mean is this based on  3 seasons ago still re his first touch? And even then, did he really fail at United?

I mean his first season he scored 27 goals and then his second season 15. If he failed scoring 42 goals in 2 seasons god help us. And even then you would think United were an amazing team when he was there also... Ah wait they weren’t, they were a team devoid of any real creativity for the whole time he was there under Mourinho. 

Aye he had a bad spell for a bit with United, was overweight for a period but Inter also diagnosed him with a serious bowel problem which they put him on a diet for to rectify and thats definitely controversially led to him being a lot sharper with Conte. Who knows how long he had that for because at United he looked slower, less dynamic, a lot more stockier for a period of time yet still got 15 goals that season despite going on a poor goal scoring run. 

Go and watch him for Inter, he has clearly improved his first touch, his back to goal play etc. He’s never going to be Lewandowski maybe or prime Suarez but to say he hasn’t improved that aspect is just painfully ignorant from someone who I am guessing probably hasn’t even watched any Serie A games he’s been played in.

I still don’t think he will want to leave Italy though. Why would he? Hes proven himself in the PL, yes he hasnt won a PL title but from a personal point of view he scored 113 goals and made 35 assists in 251 games. Ironically more goals than his hero Drogba.

Plus people complaining about the quality of Serie A, aye its not what it was but its not as bad as you would seriously think. I like the PL but lets no be as oblivious and make out it is the hardest league in the world when in fact it has as many shit teams as every other league and the only thing that makes the PL different from these teams is probably the finances available. It is as hard as many other teams in other top leagues because there is still clearly a gap between top and bottom tier teams.

For instance mentioning Ibrahimovich being up near the top of goals despite the fact he joined Man United aged what 35/36 4 years ago and scored 17 PL goals in 28 games....

Then what about Mo Salah signed from Roma and scored 44 goals in his first season for Liverpool no? PL top scorer that season also? No?

If Ronaldo were to rejoin United he would also piss the PL for goals.

Is it the same for Ligue 1? Wait Cavani got 10 goals this season also in extremely limited minutes when he was apparently finished.

Even Bale scored 11 PL goals this season.

There is a theme here, if you score goals regularly in one country you can certainly do it in another..... Lukaku would do it again 100%. 

Edited June 2, 2021 by OneMoSalah

[R2D2 368]

16 minutes ago, Jas said:

Sounds like Lukaku wants to stay at Inter..?

 

Thank fuck.

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[OneMoSalah 8,886]

hace 3 minutos, R2D2 dijo:

I get hes not your cup of tea but dont see why your shouting about him going nowhere. We urgently need a top CF....

So now the potential 4 big options who were potentially available/people felt were available (Aguero, Lukaku, Haaland and Kane) has now basically halfed in a week 🤣

[R2D2 368]

12 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

I get hes not your cup of tea but dont see why your shouting about him going nowhere. We urgently need a top CF....

So now the potential 4 big options who were potentially available/people felt were available (Aguero, Lukaku, Haaland and Kane) has now basically halfed in a week 🤣

We do but Lukaku isn't the solution not for that pricetag, not for those absurd wages, not for that age and not for those skills, I'd say it's bullet dodged, just hope he doesn't change his mind.

I trust Werner and Kai to deliver next season and while it may backfire we should all keep in mind that Tuchel only came in the middle of the season and brought us back in Top 4, taking the points we got since he got here we should easily finish Top 4 during the whole season even with no improvements. The good thing is we will surely improve maybe not with a ST but with a new midfielder, a more attacking RB, a top class CB.

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[OneMoSalah 8,886]

hace 13 minutos, R2D2 dijo:

We do but Lukaku isn't the solution not for that pricetag, not for those absurd wages, not for that age and not for those skills, I'd say it's bullet dodged, just hope he doesn't change his mind.

I trust Werner and Kai to deliver next season and while it may backfire we should all keep in mind that Tuchel only came in the middle of the season and brought us back in Top 4, taking the points we got since he got here we should easily finish Top 4 during the whole season even with no improvements. The good thing is we will surely improve maybe not with a ST but with a new midfielder, a more attacking RB, a top class CB.

Yes and no.

Lets be honest only finishing top 4 isn’t going to be enough now after winning a CL this season, is it? I think closing the gap is an absolute must and would think TT will be looking to try challenge for the title. Plus we have all seen how what you do one season has no guarantees the next season, I am actually shocked to be honest people still think as simply as this (I mean particularly after 2015/16 and 2017/18, those should be used as evidence that there is absolutely no guarantee that we can just do what we did again this season).

Hopefully Kai and Timo deliver more next season but we probably will still need more goals regardless. Especially to win more trophies or compete for the league. Be in from a number 9 (would be out safest bet) or another position.

We will hopefully grab a few good players but if we are desperate for a top top number 9 we are fucked now. We more than likely wont get Kane or Haaland for different reasons - Kane for the fact its Spurs and Haaland for the fact he has just said he wants to respect his contract which after Dortmund got CL football next season, not surprised.

Edited June 2, 2021 by OneMoSalah

[R2D2 368]

3 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Yes and no.

Lets be honest only finishing top 4 isn’t going to be enough now after winning a CL this season, is it? Plus we have all seen how what you do one season has no guarantees the next season. 

Hopefully Kai and Timo deliver more next season but we probably will still need more goals regardless. Be in from a number 9 (would be out safest bet) or another position.

We will hopefully grab a few good players but if we are desperate for a top top number 9 we are fucked now. We more than likely wont get Kane or Haaland for different reasons - Kane for the fact its Spurs and Haaland for the fact he has just said he wants to respect his contract which after Dortmund got CL football next season, not surprised.

With Real broke, we should go all out for Mbappe maybe he wants to play 3-4 years in the PL and move after to Madrid when he will be 26-27, worth a try at least, I don't understand why there aren't any rumours about his possible departure it sounds like he isn't extending and I don't think PSG are so stupid to lose a value asset like him for free.

Edited June 2, 2021 by R2D2

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

hace 12 minutos, R2D2 dijo:

With Real broke, we should go all out for Mbappe maybe he wants to play 3-4 years in the PL and move after to Madrid when he will be 26-27.

I think hes gonna do another season at Paris then leave on a free in all honesty to go to one of Madrid/Barca. He has one year left on his deal and personally I think he wants to go to Spain as has been talked about for ages, mainly Madrid when Zizou was there but Barca will have seem him up close and personal a few months ago and he was electric against them also.

[milka 3,392]

Chelsea need a strong transfer summer with the right players  like 2014/15 to make to challenge for the title .

Summer 2014   we bought two people who largely won our title - Diego Costa  and Fabregas .

Repeat .