Chelsea Transfers

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[killer1257 3,282]

 

Werner earning more than Kante? hahaha

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[NikkiCFC 8,321]

50 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Werner earning more than Kante? hahaha

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It's normal when you save a lot of money on transfer fee to give higher salary. Werner alone is worth probably 90m and we'll sign him for 25-30. 

Barkley for example costed us only 15m because of contract situation but we gave 7m extra to him and his agent. 

[NikkiCFC 8,321]

5 hours ago, Jason said:

I don't know why people always read so much into these things. Are friends not allowed to like each other's social media posts? 

Not just based on this but a lot of stuff indicates they will join us. And remember Jorginho's mom and sister?  Likes are important! 

[Atomiswave 6,117]

6 hours ago, Tomo said:

I'm not to keen on Chillwell either (my preference is Grimaldo) but he is absolutely better than Emerson. I never really got the hype regarding Emerson, he's as ordinary and passive as it gets.

Yes he looks better but not for 70m or whatever that is mentioned. Leicester will fleece us hard if we go for him in Jan.

[killer1257 3,282]

It's normal when you save a lot of money on transfer fee to give higher salary. Werner alone is worth probably 90m and we'll sign him for 25-30. 
Barkley for example costed us only 15m because of contract situation but we gave 7m extra to him and his agent. 

Funny thing is that in Germany, nobody is even talking about Werner leaving in winter. There are talks about him leaving in summer, but that's it. Werner himself wants to win the Bundesliga and he himself said that there is way more to come talking about Leipzigs potential

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[Pizy 18,909]

I see a couple of shit sources are linking us with Isco. While I don't believe them, I don't think he'd suit our team anyways. 

They say Real Madrid want to sell him and sign Eriksen. Which to me makes no sense because Isco is a superior player.

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2 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Not just based on this but a lot of stuff indicates they will join us. And remember Jorginho's mom and sister?  Likes are important! 

No one is denying the club's interest but people getting excited over social media likes is just so...never mind. 

It'll be funny though if things don't turn out the way people expect too. 

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5 hours ago, Vesper said:

Chelsea prepare January move for RB Leipzig star Timo Werner as Lampard prepares to spend

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1220731/Chelsea-transfer-news-Timo-Werner-RB-Leipzig

*sees headline*

*sees sources*

[NikkiCFC 8,321]

It was very hard for young players to break into our team. Everything changed with Frank's appointment, transfer ban and very low quality of some senior players (Giroud, Michy, Azpi, Barkley, Pedro...) Also injuries of RLC, Rudiger, Christensen played big part in Mount and Tomori getting chances. Is all of this going to change now once we are back in market? We will definitely replace senior players I mentioned with better ones. For example, Michy and Giroud out - Werner in and Barkley out - Isco in. If this happens Abraham and Mount will lose their place. How you guys feel about this? I mean we are not some development squad for young talented players and if we have a chance to buy top quality like Werner we can't miss it just to make Tammy happy. Our goals are always highest and we want to be better than Liverpool and City soon. With buying Chilwell, Werner and Sancho we are right there. So I think it's great we have so many academy players in the squad and they will still get a lot of chances but if for example Abraham wants to keep starting place he has to be better than Werner. Simple as that. No sentiment. But still I'd rather have all these guys even as squad players then horrible players we bought lately like Zappacosta, Drinkwater, Bakayoko, Barkley... 

[Superblue 6,372]

2 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

It was very hard for young players to break into our team. Everything changed with Frank's appointment, transfer ban and very low quality of some senior players (Giroud, Michy, Azpi, Barkley, Pedro...) Also injuries of RLC, Rudiger, Christensen played big part in Mount and Tomori getting chances. Is all of this going to change now once we are back in market? We will definitely replace senior players I mentioned with better ones. For example, Michy and Giroud out - Werner in and Barkley out - Isco in. If this happens Abraham and Mount will lose their place. How you guys feel about this? I mean we are not some development squad for young talented players and if we have a chance to buy top quality like Werner we can't miss it just to make Tammy happy. Our goals are always highest and we want to be better than Liverpool and City soon. With buying Chilwell, Werner and Sancho we are right there. So I think it's great we have so many academy players in the squad and they will still get a lot of chances but if for example Abraham wants to keep starting place he has to be better than Warner. Simple as that. No sentiment. But still I'd rather have all these guys even as squad players then horrible players we bought lately like Zappacosta, Drinkwater, Bakayoko, Barkley... 

The key with a player like Werner is that he can also operate out wide in a three or possibly as a second striker to Tammy. It gives Lampard more flexibility and genuine options, but also then provides us with an alternative quality central striker if the other is unavailable or out of form.

There are similarities between this and the late 00's/early 10's when we had Anelka and Drogba. Anelka was good enough to play on the right, but he was clearly best centrally. However (despite all the talk about his attitude) he was a very selfless player and sacrificed himself to play out wide in order to play. However at times when Drogba was unavailable he played as the main striker and was top drawer. At the time he was one of the very best backup strikers in world football (the one year Drogba struggled for fitness, Anelka finished the season top scorer in the whole league).

Since that time we've struggled to get a similar blend in the squad. Torres was brought in essentially as the replacement for Drogba and got eaten alive. Then Costa came in and similarly to Drogba, dominated the central striking berth. Now Tammy is staking his claim to do the same. If we can get someone of that mould who will get a lot of games as they're versatile enough to play wide or centrally and more importantly would be a higher quality to simply a backup striker (like Bats and Giroud) then we'll be in a far stronger position.

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4 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

It was very hard for young players to break into our team. Everything changed with Frank's appointment, transfer ban and very low quality of some senior players (Giroud, Michy, Azpi, Barkley, Pedro...) Also injuries of RLC, Rudiger, Christensen played big part in Mount and Tomori getting chances.

It is too simplistic to say that injuries played a big part in Mount and Tomori getting game time. With Mount, Lampard clearly had planned to integrate him into the XI from the start. He had him on loan at Derby last season and got him to stay this season, instead of opting to loan him out again. Plus, you can tell from the way Lampard speaks about Mount that he values him and the qualities he brings to the team.

As for Tomori, he actually got into the XI in the 4th league game of the season, well before Christensen had his injury. Think the idea with Tomori was to slowly integrate him in but given the Christensen-Zouma partnership was a bit of a disaster early on and we were conceding goals left, right, center etc, he was perhaps fast-tracked in. And on a whole, Tomori has looked the part.

4 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Is all of this going to change now once we are back in market? We will definitely replace senior players I mentioned with better ones. For example, Michy and Giroud out - Werner in and Barkley out - Isco in. If this happens Abraham and Mount will lose their place.

Do we even need Isco? Our midfield is already stacked as it is - Jorginho, Kovacic, Kante, Mount and that's without mentioning Loftus-Cheek as well as Gallagher and Gilmour.

I highly doubt the approach we have taken with the young/academy players would change. Not saying we will go full kids in the team but I believe we are definitely committed in developing these players (you only have to look at the reaction of everyone connected to Chelsea towards seeing these young, academy players contributing in the first team) and building a young team that will (hopefully) help us dominate for years to come. 

What makes you think Abraham, Mount etc will immediately lose their place just because we may buy Werner, Isco (I don't believe the Isco rumors BTW)? The new signings will have to prove their worth, just like every other existing players in the squad right now. They're not gonna come in and command a starting spot from the get-go, not when Lampard himself has talked about meritocracy.

4 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

I mean we are not some development squad for young talented players and if we have a chance to buy top quality like Werner we can't miss it just to make Tammy happy. Our goals are always highest and we want to be better than Liverpool and City soon. With buying Chilwell, Werner and Sancho we are right there. So I think it's great we have so many academy players in the squad and they will still get a lot of chances but if for example Abraham wants to keep starting place he has to be better than Warner.

I get what you're saying but it's ironic you said we're not some development squad for young players but the players you mentioned there - Sancho, Werner, Chilwell - are all around the same age as Abraham, Mount, Tomori etc. Sancho is 19 years old while Chilwell and Werner are 23. Mount is 20, Abraham is 22. No doubt the likes of Werner, Sancho are quality players but they aren't exactly finished products, are they?

Also, define development squad. Are you thinking something along the lines of what Dortmund do, for example? Because we may have young players in the squad but we do not develop them, only to sell them later like Dortmund do. We aren't a stepping stone for younger players to go on to better things, again like Dortmund. As mentioned before, I think the approach we have taken is a genuine attempt to rebuild the squad with younger players - complemented by having experienced players - and dominate in the coming years, a la to our 2004-2012 squad. 

EDIT: Lampard said this today, mind you.

 

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Have a happy Christmas all

[Vesper 30,178]

Chelsea make decision on Jadon Sancho transfer for January as Dortmund make £100m demand

Chelsea are not prepared to meet the £100m asking price Borussia Dortmund have slapped on Jadon Sancho.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1220743/Chelsea-Decision-On-Jadon-Sancho-Transfer-January-Borussia-Dortmund-100m-Demand

Chelsea remain interested in signing Jadon Sancho in January but are unwilling to go as high as the £100m Borussia Dortmund have quoted them ahead of the winter transfer window. Sancho, a boyhood Blues fan, is on Frank Lampard’s wish list with the Chelsea boss being given cash to splash after the west Londoners’ transfer ban was cut in half.

Express Sport understands Sancho is - along with Wilfried Zaha and Timo Werner - one of a number of forwards Chelsea are keen on buying in the new year.

However, they have decided to hold off pursuing a deal if Dortmund will not climb down from the whopping £100m valuation they have put on the 19-year-old’s head.

Goalkeeper Kepa Arrizabalaga remains Chelsea’s all-time record signing having rocked up at Stamford Bridge in a £72m move in the summer of 2018.

Marina Granovskaia and co. are unwilling to blow that figure out of the water, despite Lampard’s admiration for Dortmund winger Sancho.

Sancho has bolstered his reputation as one of Europe’s top young attackers this season by netting nine goals and providing nine assists in 15 Bundesliga appearances.

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this sounds like bullshit

Dortmund have said 150m euros ie. £128m for weeks per German press

now we are to believe that if they dropped the price by 28m quid

and to that we would still say no,

BUT

at the same time we WOULD spend only £20m less on fucking Zaha???

as if Sancho is only worth around £10 or 15m or so more than Zaha in our board's eyes?????

pure tosh

and if it isn't

and we did or will turn down a 100m pound ask price for Sancho but THEN DO go spend 80m quid on Zaha

the fucking club needs to be fucking sold, as clearly they have insanely poor football intelligence and Roman is doing nothing to stop the madness

I do not care if they just refuse to pay the 100m, as it is not my cash obviously

but do NOT turn around and spend damn near that on a clearly inferior player who is also 7 plus years older

that difference in price is less than one percent of what Roman was asking for the entire club with Ratcliffe

 

 

[Styl1994 188]

Everyone is adding their own nonsense to a report don’t believe it.

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Just now, Styl1994 said:

Everyone is adding their own nonsense to a report don’t believe it.

Long story short, don't believe anything you read until you see credible sources reporting it, LOTS of credible sources reporting it in fact. 

[Vesper 30,178]

Abramovich won’t sell Chelsea player to specific club – Blues have ‘made a wall’ for transfer

http://sportwitness.co.uk/chelsea-dont-prefer-selling-player-to-one-club-blues-have-made-a-wall-for-transfer/

On December 24th, we carried a report from Gazzetta dello Sport, who explained ‘negotiations are in progress’ between Inter Milan and Chelsea for Marcos Alonso.

FcInterNews once again reiterates the left-back is on ‘top of the wish list’ of the Serie A side and they’ve already made a first proposal, a loan with redemption, a few weeks back. However, the Blues have ‘made a wall’ and are demanding €35m for the Spain international, which is €10m more than they asked a month ago. Conte’s presence at Inter is the reason the Europa League winners are unwilling to allow their defender move to the San Siro.

The former Juventus manager was at Stamford Bridge between 2016 and 2018, and after taking a break for a year, he returned to management before the start of the season. The Inter manager won a lawsuit against Chelsea and the west London club were forced to pay €10m to him. Therefore, Roman Abramovich and Chelsea ‘don’t do favourable treats’ to their former boss and his current club. FcInterNews adds the London club would prefer selling Alonso to a Spanish club, where he has admirers, than to Inter. Therefore, Inter are looking at alternatives.

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[ZAPHOD2319 4,818]

We are awfully close to signatures being put on paper, and yet no clear agreements.

Who do you think is really going to happen?

I believe the Werner deal happens.

[Nicco 927]

4 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

We are awfully close to signatures being put on paper, and yet no clear agreements.

Who do you think is really going to happen?

I believe the Werner deal happens.

Sancho and Werner are coming, trust me bro.

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3 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

We are awfully close to signatures being put on paper, and yet no clear agreements.

Who do you think is really going to happen?

I believe the Werner deal happens.

the only one for sure happening is Ake, as his buy-back clause expires at the end of January

i think we might use the £3.5m buy-back on Boga as well

Isco is also fairly likely, due to the fact his price is sort of low, and he can come in January

I am, unfortunately, becoming doubtful atm that we land Werner or Sancho, especially now and probably miss out in the summer as well

I do not think Werner wants to leave in January and I doubt we will match the salaries that other big clubs will offer

another huge problem is if we miss out on the CL

that will hurt us with all big players, including, I also truly fear, Chilwell, as Leicester, barring a collapse, will surely have CL football

I think the club will end up just making a move for Zaha rather than roll the dice on missing out on Sancho

I do not see us buying both

IF we do miss out on Chilwell, there are very little options left to us other than Telles who I still see no links to and then Grimaldo , who is quite expensive at a 60m euro release clause and not worth that IMHO

Gaya is crazy-priced, 100m euro RC

so be prepared to have the same LB's we do now, as we will not sell either unless we have a replacement or 2, if both are sold

in terms of CF's, if not Werner, then who knows, we will either just stupidly keeps Bats, or roll the dice on some ATM mid-level, but young player I think, like Victor Osimhen or Moussa Dembele

finally, other main option at CF would be a loan deal with option to buy for Jovic from RM, which is probably a good deal for us

 

I see no real links atm to 3 young left-footed attacking players with HUGE potential I personally would be looking hard at

Dejan Kulusevski, left-footed, 19yo, 20 in April, 1.86m Swedish RWer/SS on loan at Parma from Atalanta

Nicolò Zaniolo, 20yo, left footed 1.90m  Italian AMF/RW'er from Roma

Dominik Szoboszlai, 19yo, left-footed 1.86m Hungarian AMF/LMF/CMF/LWB from RB Salzburg

we need to see how RLC recovers from his injury, but his was worse than CHO's, and CHO atm is a mess, so my fingers are crossed

and we need left-footed players for balance