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1 minute ago, Vesper said:

let the hating begin

but

IF we

finish 5th or worse

blow the FA Cup

blow the CL final

I am quite likely on the verge of being Tuchel out

way too many fuck ups versus shit sides or only decent sides (like Leicester who are classic bottlers other than that title year, and to lose to them twice at end of season, and one of them for a trophy is FUCKED) if we blow all three

Some big if's there. Everything is in our hands. Leicester are a good side but they've been struggling for a while now and only just got past United's reserves last night. You'd think we were playing City and United the last two league games. Leicester and Villa are both winnable, and it also requires the teams below to win all their games too which isn't a foregone conclusion.

We win both cup finals and he'd deserve a statue for the turnaround in our season.

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hace 11 minutos, chippy dijo:

After that load of cack, if we blow top four as well, then his job might very well be on the line.

He took Arsendl too lightly and put more importance on the Cup than a CL place. Just  inexcusable from such an experienced manager!

Remember, he's only on an 18 month contract as well, so things are now very dodgy for him.

Eh what? What do you mean? Team selection? Approach to the game? This makes no sense either way.

If its team selection, arguably 7 of the guys who started tonight would be in with a shout of starting the cup finals so quite honestly, your talking nonsense if you mean the starting 11. From tonight: James, Chilwell, Azpi, Thiago Silva, Mount, Jorginho, then one of Havertz/Pulisic, who have all been prominent with Tuchel.

Performance we didnt exactly sit off them for 90 minutes or let them have the ball either. So what do you mean took them too lightly? 

Lets be honest either way, people remember cup and trophy wins more than finishing 4th in the PL regardless also so if he had prioritised the weekend then fine but would severely disagree that he’s prioritised it on the basis of that starting 11 tonight. Some changes yes but necessary because we have played every 3 days for god knows how long now and also have 4 other games in 2 weeks. 

Also lets forget the whole reaction last season when we limped to top 4 on the last day as if it was a major achievement despite having a 12 point gap and sitting 3rd for a period months back. The overreaction is huge. If we win both cup finals and don’t get top 4 nobody will give a fuck. If we get top 4 and dont win the cup finals people will care more about the cup finals.

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1 minute ago, chippy said:

Whatever happens here on in, a number of this team should be playing for thier future at the club next sesson. Too many have been very average or even regressed. 

 You see players like CHO play like that tonight and its easy to start giving up hope on them making it here. He looked like a fecking division one player.

Odoi performance was indeed unacceptable. A lot players disappointed Tuchel today and will have a hard time getting minutes.

However, we are not taking into account the lineup change in itself. It causes disarray esp in a well oiled machine that we appear to be.

Our 2 best players did not play tho, so there is that.

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That insane passing game infront of our goalkeeper must stop.
What the heck do we gain from it ?
How many goals have we given like that ? Was it today only ? What about WBA early in the season when we went 3 goals down ? And others.

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Arsenal have completed their first Premier League double over Chelsea since the 2003-04 season. This was their first league win at Stamford Bridge since October 2011, ending an eight-game winless run there (D2 L6).

Booooo

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21 minutes ago, R2D2 said:

Nothing to see here, the moment Gilmour was subbed off instead of that cocksucker from Brazilia it was dead meat.

Gilmour was one of the few who was having a half decent game too. An absolute horror show by TT tonight!

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If we want to challenge for the title properly next season then we need another midfielder. Our squad depth in midfield is not good enough. 

Also we need to be able to change from a back 3 formation to a back 4 formation quickly. It's looking very hard for us to create chances when we're a goal down with the current formation. We need another formation to be flexible, and use it when we need a goal. We can't just rely on this system alone.

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14 minutes ago, Vesper said:

if pool beat manure and we lose to leister in the epl

our top 4 hopes are hanging by a thread

if that happens top 4 is gone. No way Liverpool choke vs the beach sides in the last 3 games. Top 4 will be decided midweek next week I think.

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1 minute ago, chippy said:

Gilmour was one of the few who was having a half decent game too. An absolute horror show by TT tonight!

Total shitshow from Tuchel, why the hell put Hudson when 0-1 with his inexperience instead of Werner.

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1 minute ago, robsblubot said:

However, we are not taking into account the lineup change in itself. It causes disarray esp in a well oiled machine that we appear to be.

With the exception of 4 players tonight, Tuchel has largely rotated the XI since he's been here and he's played the same XI in consecutive games only once. We have done fairly well with the performances and results. So, am not sure why are people overly critical of the starting XI tonight. The XI should have been enough to beat this Arsenal side or at least get a draw but it looks like either they had their eyes on the finals and/or have let the recent praise got to their head. 

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Just now, Magic Lamps said:

if that happens top 4 is gone. No way Liverpool choke vs the beach sides in the last 3 games. Top 4 will be decided midweek next week I think.

The waiting is horrible lol. I would rather finish the league first and then focus on the rest. Just get the top 4 race done

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Just now, Jas said:

With the exception of 4 players tonight, Tuchel has largely rotated the XI since he's been here and he's played the same XI in consecutive games only once. We have done fairly well with the performances and results. So, am not sure why are people overly critical of the starting XI tonight. The XI should have been enough to beat this Arsenal side or at least get a draw but it looks like either they had their eyes on the finals and/or have let the recent praise got to their head. 

I think the backline change played a part in the goal itself, esp goalie. It's all connected.

Just to be clear, I'm not overly critical of the starting XI, just slightly the second half since arsenal had already moved to a very low block.

Just unlucky with the bad pass, gk positioning (a bit weird). Arsenal kid even missed the shot and was lucky it went in.

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Tuchel needs to make up his mind. One minute he says he needs to make changes because the players are tired, some are at risk of injuries and the next, he's not happy with making too many changes. Christ!

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