🇩🇪 Kai Havertz

[Jase 43,479]

7 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Well, yes and no. One thing to consider with Harvetz is his age so you have to be patient with him, second is that a lot of what he does isn't easily measured or even noticeable at times so you can't always say 'omg, look at that'. A good example of this was West Ham away where his movement was occupying the two CB's which allowed us to create a number of chances and freed up space for the AM's, whereas in the second half Lukaku's statuesque performance allowed them to step 10 yards up the pitch to pile the pressure on. Last season in The CL final against City compared to this seasons performances is another good example. 

As for 'generational talent' talk, that is just Twitter nonsense. If you are prone to listening to that sort of thing (I don't think you are) too much you end up thinking someone like Lukaku is a monster. 

I can assure you, it's not Twitter nonsense in regards to the generational talent talk. And given he cost us 70 million that wasn't due to something like a release clause, only normal to demand from him. 

[King Kante 1,643]

5 minutes ago, Jase said:

I can assure you, it's not Twitter nonsense in regards to the generational talent talk. And given he cost us 70 million that wasn't due to something like a release clause, only normal to demand from him. 

Well, all I can say, is from where I stand, I have been fairly happy with Kai and prior to having him dropped for Lukaku, I felt he was very much proving his worth and showing improvement. 

In regard to 'generational' talk, I try to avoid that sort of thing but I do find (in my personal experience) it stems principally from social media and then repeated in the print media. 

As for the fee, yes it was expensive but that is the kind of fee all clubs have to pay for a talented 20 year old. Was he worth it based on his skill set when we brought him? No probably not, however he is still at an age where we can hope he continues to improve and he is also someone with resale value if he doesn't completely fulfil his potential. 

[DH1988 1,348]

The difference in him from Lever is staggering confidence wise.

[ahmedou 192]

MISTER CLUTCH

[NikkiCFC 8,324]

Just now, ahmedou said:

MISTER CLUTCH

Yeah, doesn't score often but scores in important games. Not only 2 finals, scored against Liverpool, Spurs also. Assist against Villarreal. Big game player. 

[Jase 43,479]

3 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

scored against Liverpool

It was from a corner. Doesn't count. 🙃

[LAM09 7,056]

3 hours ago, Jase said:

It was from a corner. Doesn't count. 🙃

We need more from set pieces after recent matches. 20+ corners & not even troubling keepers.

[NikkiCFC 8,324]

6 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

We need more from set pieces after recent matches. 20+ corners & not even troubling keepers.

We scored double digits goals after set pieces this season.

[LAM09 7,056]

Just now, NikkiCFC said:

We scored double digits goals after set pieces this season.

I should have probably pointed out corners specifically. We've been dire for a number of weeks, 20 corners against Plymouth being the most recent example.

[Pizy 18,916]

He’s such an awkward yet elegant player simultaneously. When he receives the ball when running at full speed he seems to control it perfectly. He’s an awesome counter attacking player. But when he receives the ball while in a standing position and has to try to beat a defender he looks as though he’s going to fall over every time.

He looks like a guy who had a massive growth spurt overnight and isn’t used to his body or something. 

[NikkiCFC 8,324]

4 of 7 goals scored with header.

I think he would thrive between two high scoring wingers. Unfortunately we do not have these like Liverpool, City and PSG.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Maybe his best performances for us since the CL final. Could have scored more but what was most important was his intensity. he pressed a lot and with success, he was always ready and willing to receive the ball, run at high pace and look for his chances. also not disheartened by his early miss. Also did not step into his usual trap of looking too cool and not contributing much. Was an all-action display. If he keeps this up we can finally say he turned a corner and looks the player we paid 80m for.

[Pizy 18,916]

He’s got this weird inability to strike a football with power. In general I mean, not specifically this match.

Very much like Kovacic, it’s very strange that such super technically gifted footballers can’t strike the ball well. Every time Kai has a shot from distance it seems to be a soft roller across the ground that harmlessly gets to the keeper.

Needs to add this skill to his game to ascend to the next level and become a truly elite striker.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Just now, Pizy said:

He’s got this weird inability to strike a football with power. In general I mean, not specifically this match.

Very much like Kovacic, it’s very strange that such super technically gifted footballers can’t strike the ball well. Every time Kai has a shot from distance it seems to be a soft roller across the ground that harmlessly gets to the keeper.

Needs to add this skill to his game to ascend to the next level and become a truly elite striker.

That’s not quite true. He scored a goal for Leverkusen vs inter in the el once that shaved the goalies balls off 

also his high effort from an angle today looked powerful enough 

[King Kante 1,643]

Been saying it for a while, but he really needs to be our starting No.9. We are so much better with him leading the line. 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Fine tune the finishing, add some consistency and a real ruthless streak - no doubt he will be a top player. Only one game tonight, after well, watching a hapless donkey at the weekend so the barometers not exactly very high and anything would look better.

Lets see how he does next game. And the next and the next. Needs to build a run of matches.

[Stats 7,142]

Brilliant performance. Top header he scored also. Worked his socks off, his pressing as well as his all round play was brilliant. I hope this move gives Lukaku a nudge and motivates him to step his game up and makes him realise what his replacement did tonight, is what he should be doing a lot more for us. His acceleration off the ball or in counter attacking situations is really impressive.

[Strike 7,489]

It should have been him leading the line all of last month

[coolhead23 1,147]

2 hours ago, Stats said:

I hope this move gives Lukaku a nudge and motivates him to step his game up and makes him realise what his replacement did tonight, is what he should be doing a lot more for us. 

If a nudge is needed for a 100M player " a top striker " based on someone else performance then there is something wrong with the player himself.

[Pizy 18,916]

10 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

That’s not quite true. He scored a goal for Leverkusen vs inter in the el once that shaved the goalies balls off 

also his high effort from an angle today looked powerful enough 

I’m talking more outside the box or strikes from distance. He is a huge threat once he gets into the box but even right in the edge of the box he doesn’t have a go often enough.