Mikel John Obi

[Kojo 4,676]

Personally I think he should have been sold (only if we had of replaced him that is) And if he is as good as some say it wont matter, he wont fit into the system regardless. We wont have many games like we did against United and Bayern, this isn't five years ago, we aren't counter attackers anymore. We keep the ball and look for any option to get a goal, our play requires good movement, passing, creativity and first touches.

However this is Mikel's fault he failed to perform when he had to fight for his place. When Essien was out for 6 months two seasons ago it was Mikel's time to flourish, he failed. He had a bad season last season and we can't keep making excuses, sorry Mikel fans but the results haven't been positive for him. The best option is to move on and replace him.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Will play against Everton . Win the MOTM, and score a last minute penalty. Heard it here first. *runs away*

[The Skipper 20,593]

Personally I think he should have been sold (only if we had of replaced him that is) And if he is as good as some say it wont matter, he wont fit into the system regardless. We wont have many games like we did against United and Bayern, this isn't five years ago, we aren't counter attackers anymore. We keep the ball and look for any option to get a goal, our play requires good movement, passing, creativity and first touches.

However this is Mikel's fault he failed to perform when he had to fight for his place. When Essien was out for 6 months two seasons ago it was Mikel's time to flourish, he failed. He had a bad season last season and we can't keep making excuses, sorry Mikel fans but the results haven't been positive for him. The best option is to move on and replace him.

Phil Driver, why can't you just make a diplomatic, non aggressive post like this? You can get your opinion across neatly like this you know?

[Kojo 4,676]

Phil Driver, why can't you just make a diplomatic, non aggressive post like this? You can get your opinion across neatly like this you know?

In all fairness I was probably worse about this a year ago, but I know what you mean.

[Phil Driver 503]

I fail to see how my post can be considered aggressive and after seven years of watching Mikel diplomacy is out of the window .

I have very strong opinions on his ability and his worth to Chelsea and I want to see the back of him for the good of the club and am hopeful Jose has him sussed .

It would seem a lot on here do not agree with Jose's decision to bench him ,I do ,so you could say I am backing our managers judgement.

[bleed_blue 136]

I suggest you have a look at this: http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/16732-opinion-tolerance/

Sure lose arguments and then start threatening people with bans.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Sure lose arguments and then start threatening people with bans.

I'm asking you, express any opinion you want, but please stop insulting other people's opinions.

[Amblève. 4,995]

In all fairness I was probably worse about this a year ago, but I know what you mean.

You came up with that TIOTE IS BETTER THAN MIKEL shit though which was at least a bit funny, tbh.

[Kojo 4,676]

You came up with that TIOTE IS BETTER THAN MIKEL shit though which was at least a bit funny, tbh.

Tiote is a ball winning midfielder, a very good one as well, but I'm happy we never signed him because he's injury prone. We needed more aggressive players in our team and Mikel isn't aggressive in the slightest. However Ramires has flourished into a very good ball winning midfielder or box to box type what have you, so we've benefited in the end.

[lucio 5,418]

I would like mikel or ginkel to be given the nod over lampard vs Everton.

[Jase 43,479]

So he is still around and didn't even come close of leaving. So much for those jumping to conclusions and over celebrating it weeks ago...

[bleed_blue 136]

Ofcourse he is here. Just like Malouda was here last season. No team will buy this liability.

[Phil Driver 503]

I have that feeling as well Bleed Blue ,but he is still a Chelsea player so I am hoping Jose will get more out of him when he plays ,the same goes for Torres who I believe could really benefit from having Jose as his coach.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Most backwards passes in Europe last season: Xavi (1066), Jordi Alba (948), Andres Iniesta (911), Fabregas (896) and James McCarthy (887). I thought Mikey would make it here atleast.

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

Most backwards passes in Europe last season: Xavi (1066), Jordi Alba (948), Andres Iniesta (911), Fabregas (896) and James McCarthy (887). I thought Mikey would make it here atleast.

Wow

[Blue Armour 4,312]

Most backwards passes in Europe last season: Xavi (1066), Jordi Alba (948), Andres Iniesta (911), Fabregas (896) and James McCarthy (887). I thought Mikey would make it here atleast.

Lol.

[robsblubot 3,529]

Tiote is a ball winning midfielder, a very good one as well, but I'm happy we never signed him because he's injury prone. We needed more aggressive players in our team and Mikel isn't aggressive in the slightest. However Ramires has flourished into a very good ball winning midfielder or box to box type what have you, so we've benefited in the end.

It's not that Mikel is not aggressive enough, but rather he's actually very passive for the role of an enforcer. He should be able to infringe physical pain when things get rough and I just don't see that in him; Toure does that, and so does Ramires.

I like Tiote as well, but he's too much like Ramires, like you said. I'd rather go a for a tall midfielder, who is still more mobile and aggressive than Mikel, perhaps Capoue (now @Spurs). Perhaps MVG is going to be molded into the role (CM rather than DM though).

[Joe Cool 388]

Bleed Blue and Phil, what is it with you guys' vendetta with Mikel? I'd love to see Mikel get his arse out of this club as much as anybody else, but it's quite redundant and boring to see a post from you guys almost every day on this thread, repeating the same statements on how Mikel is shite or how he is on his way out. We get it, there's no need to keep informing us.