closed Man Utd 4-0 Chelsea

[NikkiCFC 8,324]

Good news for us. Martial, Rashford, Lingard as front three should not be a big threat. Like many Utd fans on Red Cafe I also think this is going to be a draw. Which is fine as long as we win next three games after. 10 points before international break is fine. 

[Hutcho 8,443]

I don't know what do you mean by conservative by playing Ross.

Mount is clearly better at pressing more discipline than Ross. 

 

Experience, barkley is the somewhat known entity at least in the PL.

Mount isn't.

 

Also I agree mount is better at pressing than Ross but in terms of strength and tackling in the middle of the park etc I'd say Ross has the edge.

 

But personally I hope he says fuck it goes with both of them and we take the game to united. But that may not be the sensible thing to do

 

[Hutcho 8,443]

Good news for us. Martial, Rashford, Lingard as front three should not be a big threat. Like many Utd fans on Red Cafe I also think this is going to be a draw. Which is fine as long as we win next three games after. 10 points before international break is fine. 

Not a big threat is a bit of an understatement. Not the most clinical but our defence isn't exactly bursting with pace. And the one thing you'd give their 3 is that they are quick

[Tomo 21,751]

39 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Good news for us. Martial, Rashford, Lingard as front three should not be a big threat. Like many Utd fans on Red Cafe I also think this is going to be a draw. Which is fine as long as we win next three games after. 10 points before international break is fine. 

I wish Lukaku was playing. Not only is he a big game bottler he wouldn't bother pressing us which would have helped our buildup play, Rashford will not give us a moments peace which could spell trouble if we are as sloppy as we were in the 1st half in Germany.

[communicate 2,703]

4 hours ago, Hutcho said:

Experience, barkley is the somewhat known entity at least in the PL.

Mount isn't.

 

Also I agree mount is better at pressing than Ross but in terms of strength and tackling in the middle of the park etc I'd say Ross has the edge.

 

But personally I hope he says fuck it goes with both of them and we take the game to united. But that may not be the sensible thing to do

 

I think most people here want mount to start because clearly he is more discipline than Ross, which imo very important against big team away. 

In term of playing both together, I think it depend whether you want barkley or Pulisic. 

[communicate 2,703]

On 8/6/2019 at 4:20 AM, Jason said:

Since the starting XI is all the rage right now, think Lampard will go with this:

Kepa

Azpi---Zouma---Luiz---Emerson

Jorginho---Kovacic

Pulisic---Mount---Pedro

Abraham

Give or take Christensen for Zouma, Barkley for Mount and Giroud/Batshuayi for Abraham. Doubt Lampard will risk Kante from the start (might have him on the bench) and Willian is not match fit yet. 

I think that is our starting 11 against united.

We can bring kante if we need to shore up our defense or Barkley if we need more chance creationin the final third. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

Look at United’s game against Milan. They panicked when their back line was under pressure. 

No doubt Lampard will notice that too. 

[Atomiswave 6,117]

We can make holes in them with fast and direct play, their midfield is kinda slow too.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

41 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

We can make holes in them with fast and direct play, their midfield is kinda slow too.

It is. and rigid. I can so see Mount run rings around Matic. But we need to be careful. The pace of Martial and Rashford can easily exploit a high line, so we should always leave enough players in behind.

Also since they usually play without real wingers we should make our numbers advantage on the flank count. Esp with the pace of Emerson and Pulisic we should seek 1 on 1 often and go behind their lines and then play cut backs. This is were they are really vulnerable. They draw their defneisve lines back in panic when they are attacked directly and with pace so they leave huge gaps behind just in front of their box. On paper, they might be a bit better than us player for player, more experienced, better age balance, but with superior tactics we can pull a shock win even at OT.

[Atomiswave 6,117]

3 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

It is. and rigid. I can so see Mount run rings around Matic. But we need to be careful. The pace of Martial and Rashford can easily exploit a high line, so we should always leave enough players in behind.

Also since they usually play without real wingers we should make our numbers advantage on the flank count. Esp with the pace of Emerson and Pulisic we should seek 1 on 1 often and go behind their lines and then play cut backs. This is were they are really vulnerable. They draw their defneisve lines back in panic when they are attacked directly and with pace so they leave huge gaps behind just in front of their box. On paper, they might be a bit better than us player for player, more experienced, better age balance, but with superior tactics we can pull a shock win even at OT.

Most def.....im looking forward what Lamps have coocked up for them, damn nice to have our youngsters teach them a lesson.

[milka 3,393]

Kepa

 

Azpilicueta --- Christensen---Zouma---Emerson

---------Jorginho ------ Kante

Pedro------Barkley----Pulisic

-------------Batshuayi

[Jase 43,479]

On 8/6/2019 at 4:20 AM, Jason said:

Since the starting XI is all the rage right now, think Lampard will go with this:

Kepa

Azpi---Zouma---Luiz---Emerson

Jorginho---Kovacic

Pulisic---Mount---Pedro

Abraham

Give or take Christensen for Zouma, Barkley for Mount and Giroud/Batshuayi for Abraham. Doubt Lampard will risk Kante from the start (might have him on the bench) and Willian is not match fit yet. 

Err, so I'm guessing Christensen will take Luiz's place then in the starting XI. 

[LAM09 7,056]

Err, so I'm guessing Christensen will take Luiz's place then in the starting XI. 

 

I think Kante is a must. No grit in the centre of the field without him.

[Strike 7,490]

7 hours ago, LAM09 said:

 

I think Kante is a must. No grit in the centre of the field without him.

Agree. Kante seems like a must for this game if he is physically capable of handling 60 mins

[Jase 43,479]

8 hours ago, LAM09 said:

I think Kante is a must. No grit in the centre of the field without him.

 

1 hour ago, Strike said:

Agree. Kante seems like a must for this game if he is physically capable of handling 60 mins

Kante just came back from a long term injury and played only 18 minutes in pre-season. I know this is a big game but it's only one game and the first game of the season. I don't think it's worth the risk to play him when he's not fully fit yet. After all, Kante only got into this situation because he was rushed back to play that Europa League final and last thing we need right now is him getting injured again and missing for an even longer period (we did that with Rudiger last season and look what happened). 

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

Rashford, Martial, James, Greenwood...

they will hit us with pace 

[Atomiswave 6,117]

20 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Rashford, Martial, James, Greenwood...

they will hit us with pace 

Sure they will, but so will we......I would love it if we make holes in them time and time again. A win will give us a huge booster.

[Jase 43,479]

Lampard's presser will be at 1pm BST tomorrow (Friday). 

[Pizy 18,918]

David Luiz's sudden departure fucks us in another way that I didn't even think about until now. Both Zouma and AC have always played as the right sided CB and one will now have to move to the other side.

Don't know if that's a big deal at all as I've never played the position, but it's got to be a learning curve, yes? Especially when you've only got a couple of days to get used to it.

[LAM09 7,056]

David Luiz's sudden departure fucks us in another way that I didn't even think about until now. Both Zouma and AC have always played as the right sided CB and one will now have to move to the other side.
Don't know if that's a big deal at all as I've never played the position, but it's got to be a learning curve, yes? Especially when you've only got a couple of days to get used to it.

AC played on the left in our last two games. It isn't exactly going to be a shocked to his system.