Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Him and Reece have been on the coke during lockdown I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 2 hours ago, kellzfresh said: You can see that when he came off and Palace stopped sitting back and really attacked us in the last few minutes we nearly conceded 3 goals. Disagree with this. When Gilmour was on the pitch, we never looked in control of the game. It was like watching a basketball game. It kept going back and forth. Jorginho came on and we looked much more in control of the 10 minutes or so that followed than the entire game before that. It was only 10 minutes but it took the momentum out of Palace for that period of time when we could have easily conceded. Palace coming at us in the last few minutes was more down to (a) the players making stupid errors - e.g. Abraham gave the ball away and nearly cost us a goal - (b) the classic case of the losing team throwing the kitchen sink in the final few minutes and (c) our overall poor in-game management - e.g. some players not being smart enough to run down the clock and kept making wrong decisions. communicate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I also thought he was decent. Not a dominating performance, but decent Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,490 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 6/10 from Gilmour. Started brightly and was leaping over players much taller than him to win headers. Few sloppy passes and absent from his position while defending sometimes. But don't think this was as bad as people are making it out to be. He fought well and was running down Palace players through out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Jason said: Disagree with this. When Gilmour was on the pitch, we never looked in control of the game. It was like watching a basketball game. It kept going back and forth. Jorginho came on and we looked much more in control of the 10 minutes or so that followed than the entire game before that. It was only 10 minutes but it took the momentum out of Palace for that period of time when we could have easily conceded. Palace coming at us in the last few minutes was more down to (a) the players making stupid errors - e.g. Abraham gave the ball away and nearly cost us a goal - (b) the classic case of the losing team throwing the kitchen sink in the final few minutes and (c) our overall poor in-game management - e.g. some players not being smart enough to run down the clock and kept making wrong decisions. Jorginho did well in helping us hold possession, control the tempo of the game and make it slow like sarri's style. But once other players made individual errors like Abraham giving the ball away, Palace cut through the midfield like butter and the post / Zouma saved us a couple of times from conceding. You can't account for the mistakes of others like James losing the ball in a crucial area leading to Zaha worldie / Kepa not saving a direct shot at him and Christensen falling like Cahill and costing us a goal. So no matter if Jorginho has a pass accuracy of 91% like Gilmour and not giving the ball away only Zouma and the post prevented us from conceding 2 goals while he was on the pitch. Gilmour was decent yesterday, a solid 6.5 or 7/10 in my opinion. That Jorginho was better on the day does not mean that Gilmour played terrible imo. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted July 8, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 hour ago, kellzfresh said: Jorginho did well in helping us hold possession, control the tempo of the game and make it slow like sarri's style. But once other players made individual errors like Abraham giving the ball away, Palace cut through the midfield like butter and the post / Zouma saved us a couple of times from conceding. You can't account for the mistakes of others like James losing the ball in a crucial area leading to Zaha worldie / Kepa not saving a direct shot at him and Christensen falling like Cahill and costing us a goal. So no matter if Jorginho has a pass accuracy of 91% like Gilmour and not giving the ball away only Zouma and the post prevented us from conceding 2 goals while he was on the pitch. Gilmour was decent yesterday, a solid 6.5 or 7/10 in my opinion. That Jorginho was better on the day does not mean that Gilmour played terrible imo. I don't think anyone is saying Gilmour had a terrible game at Palace but he doesn't have quite enough at the moment to control games that we want to. Although understandable, he hasn't played at the level he showed pre-pandemic since the restart. Also don't think it's fair from Lampard to expect a 19-year-old to come in and start to boss games consistently. Stats, Strike, Johnnyeye and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 19 hours ago, kellzfresh said: Jorginho did well in helping us hold possession, control the tempo of the game and make it slow like sarri's style. But once other players made individual errors like Abraham giving the ball away, Palace cut through the midfield like butter and the post / Zouma saved us a couple of times from conceding. You can't account for the mistakes of others like James losing the ball in a crucial area leading to Zaha worldie / Kepa not saving a direct shot at him and Christensen falling like Cahill and costing us a goal. So no matter if Jorginho has a pass accuracy of 91% like Gilmour and not giving the ball away only Zouma and the post prevented us from conceding 2 goals while he was on the pitch. Gilmour was decent yesterday, a solid 6.5 or 7/10 in my opinion. That Jorginho was better on the day does not mean that Gilmour played terrible imo. This is exactly what I was worried about after his debut, expectations became too high and now even good performances are going to be passed off as poor because he's being measured against those games Vs Liverpool and Everton. kellzfresh, OneMoSalah, Fernando and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Err... Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 To be fair to the boy, everton gave him so much time and space. Liverpool was the truly great showing. Billy showed he was capable defensively but the whole team was sitting deep and when Liverpool lost the ball he had options to pass a vertical ball (even in his poor performances we can see he's a good passer of the ball forward). I've got a sneaky suspicion he is suited in a pivot as opposed to an anchor. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Does it go into detail what kind of injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,490 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Only The Sun has it so far. Will wait for more journos to report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Could be a blessing in disguise. I hope he gets fit soon but he clearly was out of his depth in every performance till the restart and more matches would have damaged his confidence. Hopefully Jorginho starts adn Kovacic is fit again. Gilmour may be our future but Jorginho at present is the much better player. Supermonkey92 and Puliiszola 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 55 minutes ago, Strike said: Only The Sun has it so far. Will wait for more journos to report killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 At this point the midfielders are selected by default. We really need at least one of Kanté or Kovacic back. Possible Lewis Bate debut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Rapkun said: At this point the midfielders are selected by default. We really need at least one of Kanté or Kovacic back. Possible Lewis Bate debut? Kovacic is back in training. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Kovacic is back in training. Oh Great news if true. Still it's unlikely that he plays in front of the defense so it will probably be Jorginho Kova/Barkley and Mount. Vesper and King Kante 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Jason said: Err... FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 what the hell is wrong with our side and injuries??????? it is disastrous Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 what the hell is wrong with our side and injuries??????? it is disastrous [emoji20]Did Billy receive his injury during the match? Yesterday, our squad did not train, so I guess he injured himself during the match. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Its really too much now, what the hell is going on, feels like all our players have been injured this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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