Super Frank Thread

[ZaynChelsea 423]

Turning up at the office today full of Bayern fans really tips me over the edge.

The gap between us and Bayern has been astonishing and scandalous. Although no one was expecting a win here, it is still shocking to see how far we've sunk. 

First and foremost our defence is a catastrophe. Sort it out, Frank.

[Jase 43,479]

Welp, this has been a strange day and not even half of the day has passed yet...

[Special Juan 28,090]

6 minutes ago, ZaynChelsea said:

Turning up at the office today full of Bayern fans really tips me over the edge.

The gap between us and Bayern has been astonishing and scandalous. Although no one was expecting a win here, it is still shocking to see how far we've sunk. 

First and foremost our defence is a catastrophe. Sort it out, Frank.

You can see how far we have sunk just purely based on the PL, without mentioning Europe's elite.

[Tomo 21,751]

43 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

Tomo I apologise I should know better I've let things become personal which is not on. My outbursts are usually after the game when I've been drinking not a great excuse but I'm old enough to know better. Posters should be challenged on their pov but only on  football matters and I've crossed the line. I do have a geezer down the pub sort of pov and it can be a bit raw I'm no shrinking violet and nor are my mates but that's where I should leave it in the pub. We are all Chelsea fans and as one of the old guard I should encourage younger fans not berate them I've let the forum down I'm old enough to know better so it's time for me to self moderate.

                                               Sorry Again Iggy.

 

Thankyou and I apologize aswell as I crossed the line in areas especially with the Boris/Brexit comments, I got wound up but still that type of shit is uncalled for.

[Antonio8 736]

11 hours ago, ZaynChelsea said:

Tbh, I think we have to realize that Frank will never be able to sort out the defence. Would have really enjoyed a Simeone in the dugout.

simeone is good for atletico madrid. with his idea of football, stanford bridge would sing fuck simeone-ball after 10 minutes of the first match 

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

7 minutes ago, Antonio8 said:

simeone is good for atletico madrid. with his idea of football, stanford bridge would sing fuck simeone-ball after 10 minutes of the first match 

Not sure for definite.  If it was successful the fans wouldn't be bothered because wed get good results and be competing. Plus the fight and application his Atletico teams have shown particularly the bigger games, it is exceptional. Do we have that fight or passion in this group? Not necessarily sure. 

[Superblue 6,372]

54 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Not sure for definite.  If it was successful the fans wouldn't be bothered because wed get good results and be competing. Plus the fight and application his Atletico teams have shown particularly the bigger games, it is exceptional. Do we have that fight or passion in this group? Not necessarily sure. 

The problem is I don't envisage any style of play being immediately successful with our current group of players because it's such a contrasting mix.

Most of our older, experienced players have been through the Conte era, and even the Mourinho era and either suit or have been coached into them the defensive, conservative style of football.

Then we have the few players we've brought in the last 18 months and our academy players who suit a more progressive, attacking style. 

Based on the above, it makes sense to continue trying to build in a more progressive, attack minded nature rather than the defensive, pragmatic one where we'd almost be needing to rebuild again from scratch. The signing of Ziyech suggests we're not planning to waver from this currently either.

Until we're able to build with 15-18 players, let alone a squad, that all suit and complement a particular style of play we're going to have problems. This is the point of being patient, we're less than 2 years into making a complete change of philosophy which is hard enough, let alone losing a world class goalkeeper and our best player/talisman whilst navigating a transfer ban. In reality we need another couple of summer transfer windows before we're likely to be anything capable of challenging at the top of the league.Until then, we need to show some progression.

[Atomiswave 6,117]

12 hours ago, Jason said:

We have injury problems, we don't have the players to play an attacking game and yet we set up trying to take Bayern head on...a little pragmatism wouldn't have hurt. 

I mentioned it in the game, Lamps has to learn to go safer in these games,you cant have so much gaps, they had tons of it. Looks like he either is adament on it or he simply has no idea how to do it. When you are outgunned and out experienced you go for a result no matter what style you love. We just cant fuck up vs bournmouth, that would sting even more.

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Plus the fight and application his Atletico teams have shown particularly the bigger games, it is exceptional. Do we have that fight or passion in this group? Not necessarily sure. 

First of all I don't think fighting and spirit is issue in our team. 

And secondly, if club legend like Lampard can't make players (and we have so many English players and academy players who support Chelsea) give their all what makes you think someone like Simeone would be able to do it? 

[ZaynChelsea 423]

1 minute ago, NikkiCFC said:

First of all I don't think fighting and spirit is issue in our team. 

And secondly, if club legend like Lampard can't make players (and we have so many English players and academy players who support Chelsea) give their all what makes you think someone like Simeone would be able to do it? 

Are you serious? Just compare them both during the match at the touchline ffs. 

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

In XXI century only in 15-16 season we had less than 50% of wins. At the moment this season 19 wins from 39 games. Less than 50%. Just sayin. 

[Atomiswave 6,117]

25 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

First of all I don't think fighting and spirit is issue in our team. 

And secondly, if club legend like Lampard can't make players (and we have so many English players and academy players who support Chelsea) give their all what makes you think someone like Simeone would be able to do it? 

You are kidding mate? If Lamps becomes even close to what Simeone is and has done for AM then I'll take it right now. At that state give him better players and we will kill teams. DS is elite, FL is a rookie and we see this often.

DS is simply in another reality compared to FL, a huge mismatch.