Superblue 6,372 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Tomo said: Sadly I think you're right. Honestly getting sick of this guy. He's a decent finisher (scaled for our standards) but the sheer amount of games he ghosts is utterly obscene. As I said the annoying thing is I do think he has 'it'. Whilst I think all of them need to become more consistent, especially if we're to show progression in our league form next season, at least Mount and Havertz have shown improvement and progression in their numbers and performances this season. Both have improved on last season. I haven't really seen the same with Pulisic, it just always seems to be one good game and then a couple of poor ones. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,178 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) sell this asshat yank fraud fucking wuthless one of my first comments was he was just a marketing buy nothing has disproved that he is a choker far too often disastrous buys we have made since January 2017 Edited May 19, 2022 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,909 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Vesper said: sell this asshat yank fraud fucking wuthless one of my first comments was he was just a marketing buy nothing has disproved that he is a choker far too often disastrous buys we have made since January 2017 Genuinely wouldn’t be bothered if we did cut our losses. Truly the only attacking mids I’d keep no questions asked are Mount and Kai. CP, Ziyech. CHO, Werner are all poor.  All could go and I’d be happy. Fernando, Vesper and bigbluewillie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Lee 47 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 I hope he will leave this club like Abraham, Giroud. Look how the coach pick his team and let players such as Gallagher, Abraham, Giroud go. At the same time, he brought here Lukaku, Saul... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Yeah, I am not sold on this we must sell Pulisic angle. For sure he is a confidence player but he is still relatively young and he does still have something about him as he does produce big moments and performances at times. My worry with selling him, in particular, is that he would go a pull an exponential increase in levels in the next 18 months. As for his misses, I think this is a little bit due to the overall anxiety in the forward line. I reckon if we find a killer in front of goal, that would raise the goals of everyone else as they wouldn't feel the pressure so much. Either way, there are players I would get shot of before Pulisic. Fernando and maxlev 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 7 hours ago, King Kante said: Yeah, I am not sold on this we must sell Pulisic angle. For sure he is a confidence player but he is still relatively young and he does still have something about him as he does produce big moments and performances at times. My worry with selling him, in particular, is that he would go a pull an exponential increase in levels in the next 18 months. As for his misses, I think this is a little bit due to the overall anxiety in the forward line. I reckon if we find a killer in front of goal, that would raise the goals of everyone else as they wouldn't feel the pressure so much. Either way, there are players I would get shot of before Pulisic. Problem is for me, we've seen the levels of potential exponential increase very very few times in the last two season's. Admittedly one of those times was a UCL semi but there's only so long even that can give you credit in the bank. With Pulisic we're seeing major issues that very rarely get fixed with age. His vision is non existent and he has a real inability to see anything beyond 10-20 yards of him not to mention how often he fails to release the ball at the right time and that's if he's getting involved in the game atall (I have lost count in the amount of times I've forgot he was even playing). Players who have had those issues at a similar age just tend to go on an endless cycle of mini spells but largely flattering to decieve (Walcott, SWP, Willian etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxlev 54 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 All I see is that this guy create chances but misses them. He also gets into scoring positions but misses the chances that comes. If I am his coach, I wouldn't think of selling such a player but instead correct that small error. Mount was doing same earlier part of the season but improved massively. This guy's potential is really huge. Just the right twerk is needed. I prefer to work on a player who create chances, steps into goal scoring positions but misses goals than someone whose game play hardly gets him into regular goal scoring positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, Tomo said: Problem is for me, we've seen the levels of potential exponential increase very very few times in the last two season's. Admittedly one of those times was a UCL semi but there's only so long even that can give you credit in the bank. With Pulisic we're seeing major issues that very rarely get fixed with age. His vision is non existent and he has a real inability to see anything beyond 10-20 yards of him not to mention how often he fails to release the ball at the right time and that's if he's getting involved in the game atall (I have lost count in the amount of times I've forgot he was even playing). Players who have had those issues at a similar age just tend to go on an endless cycle of mini spells but largely flattering to decieve (Walcott, SWP, Willian etc). I would agree but equally I would say that Ziyech, CHO and Werner suffer from these types of issues too but in more some ways than others. I do think 1 of them needs to go, maybe 2 but I am not sure Pulisic should be one of those 1 or 2. Edited May 27, 2022 by King Kante Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxlev 54 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, King Kante said: I would agree but equally I would say that Ziyech, CHO and Werner suffer from these types of issues too but in more some ways than others. I do think 1 of them needs to go, maybe 2 but I am not sure Pulisic should be one of those 1 or 2. If it comes to that, I did recommend Ziyech due to age. Others still have a chance to improve massively. Let's assume Werner, Pulisic and CHO takes 90% of the chances they get, their stats will suddenly look unreal. That is just the thin line btw these guys and the likes of Salah, Mane etc. Determination to finish chances and good precision in front of goal. The more u score the more confidence and composure u develop. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,818 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 I know some big misses have caused some people to be down about Pulisic, something that didn’t happen with those big misses by Mount in the FA Cup. He is young and can still improve, I get the big game disappointment, but the numbers do not support the shit he has been receiving.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: I know some big misses have caused some people to be down about Pulisic, something that didn’t happen with those big misses by Mount in the FA Cup. He is young and can still improve, I get the big game disappointment, but the numbers do not support the shit he has been receiving.   21 and 19% are still rather poor rates. Our whole team is terrible in finishing no excuses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: I know some big misses have caused some people to be down about Pulisic, something that didn’t happen with those big misses by Mount in the FA Cup. He is young and can still improve, I get the big game disappointment, but the numbers do not support the shit he has been receiving.    8 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: 21 and 19% are still rather poor rates. Our whole team is terrible in finishing no excuses Particularly compared to our competition... Salah - 51% Mane - 45% Jota - 44% Diaz - 40% Firmino - 38% https://one-versus-one.com/  I stand by saying we need two in and three out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,818 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: 21 and 19% are still rather poor rates. Our whole team is terrible in finishing no excuses For sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 3 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:  Particularly compared to our competition... Salah - 51% Mane - 45% Jota - 44% Diaz - 40% Firmino - 38% https://one-versus-one.com/  I stand by saying we need two in and three out. Surely those conversion rates aren't as high as that. I thought I saw somewhere that Salah was relatively comparable, around 17-18%. Clockwork 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: Surely those conversion rates aren't as high as that. I thought I saw somewhere that Salah was relatively comparable, around 17-18%. Yeah Salah averages 4 shots per game, there is no way that is accurate. Edited June 1, 2022 by Clockwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,054 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 3 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: I know some big misses have caused some people to be down about Pulisic, something that didn’t happen with those big misses by Mount in the FA Cup. He is young and can still improve, I get the big game disappointment, but the numbers do not support the shit he has been receiving.   He's effectively the best of a bad bunch, so those stats don't mean much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 5 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: I know some big misses have caused some people to be down about Pulisic, something that didn’t happen with those big misses by Mount in the FA Cup. He is young and can still improve, I get the big game disappointment, but the numbers do not support the shit he has been receiving.   Hmm., but doesn't say how many chances those players are involved in. Guarantee that Mount and Havertz have been involved in more games and chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanP2311 65 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Â ZAPHOD2319 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,818 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, DanP2311 said:  That first goal was special. The burst Puli showed was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,818 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Different angle   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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