Vesper 30,207 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 15 hours ago, LAM09 said: I still feel like Maignan is probably the best all-around option. I could live with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said: Fixed for you It was a battle of two T-Rex armed keepers. A fitting draw as a result. Edited March 19, 2023 by Blue Armour Reddish-Blue, Johnnyeye, Fulham Broadway and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,280 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 maybe give mendy a chance? Johnnyeye, Fulham Broadway and Beigl 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,061 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Mário César said: maybe give mendy a chance? Do we need flashbacks of RM last year? Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 39 minutes ago, LAM09 said: Do we need flashbacks of RM last year? When neither keeper are performing that great I'd rather go for the one that atleast has a body of world class work in the bank. lucio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,280 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, LAM09 said: Do we need flashbacks of RM last year? Kepa also did a lot of mistakes.... we won a ucl with mendy and he performed very well. there is no possible comparison... with kepa there is a disaster expecte to be happen Edited March 19, 2023 by Mário César Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,061 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 47 minutes ago, Tomo said: When neither keeper are performing that great I'd rather go for the one that atleast has a body of world class work in the bank. It's a sad predicament we're in. I'd hoped Slonina would at least be in the matchday squads with Mendy being out. No idea what is planned for him at this point. 19 minutes ago, Mário César said: Kepa also did a lot of mistakes.... we won a ucl with mendy and he performed very well. there is no possible comparison... with kepa there is a disaster expecte to be happen Mendy is far from the GK that lifted the CL. He ultimately got us knocked out last year. We need shot of both, tbh. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 14 hours ago, LAM09 said: It's a sad predicament we're in. I'd hoped Slonina would at least be in the matchday squads with Mendy being out. No idea what is planned for him at this point. Mendy is far from the GK that lifted the CL. He ultimately got us knocked out last year. We need shot of both, tbh. Mendy isn't great with his feet. However, with a 343 formation the need to play back to the GK is a lot more limited than in a back 4, especially if you know the GK is vulnerable with the ball at his feet. I agree that either are the answer, but going forward this season Mendy needs to come back. Yes, Memdy does make mistakes but his mistakes can be mitigated against a lot more than Kepa's. Since the turn of the year Kepa has: Got lost at sea for Fulham's second when away. Like a coward, refused to collect a ball across the ground against City, in case he got clattered. Yet again, palmed one in against Everton. I think I have also forgotten another one. However, this is also before we get to the fact that he is woeful at saving shots travelling to his top corner from distance. Fortunately, teams haven't been doing this much recently but we certainly cannot afford Real start doing that in the QF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,061 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 9 hours ago, King Kante said: Mendy isn't great with his feet. However, with a 343 formation the need to play back to the GK is a lot more limited than in a back 4, especially if you know the GK is vulnerable with the ball at his feet. I agree that either are the answer, but going forward this season Mendy needs to come back. Yes, Memdy does make mistakes but his mistakes can be mitigated against a lot more than Kepa's. Since the turn of the year Kepa has: Got lost at sea for Fulham's second when away. Like a coward, refused to collect a ball across the ground against City, in case he got clattered. Yet again, palmed one in against Everton. I think I have also forgotten another one. However, this is also before we get to the fact that he is woeful at saving shots travelling to his top corner from distance. Fortunately, teams haven't been doing this much recently but we certainly cannot afford Real start doing that in the QF. Potter has a habit of changing formations on a regular basis, so the formation argument could well be irrelevant should he stay on. It's the lesser of two evils at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,331 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Some interesting stats: Courtois 154 games for Chelsea 58 cleen sheets. Kepa 151 games 58 cleen sheets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 On 19/03/2023 at 06:03, King Kante said: Got to get Mendy back in the goal. Kepa is too small and weak and teams are waking up to this again. Mendy has his limitations but those limitations are not as problematic as Kepa's. Me too I know this is the Kepa thread but... What is so wrong with Mendy when he first came here I said thank christ at last a keeper that can catch a ball and was very safe. Then he became a real fuckup trying to play out with his feet got caught out a couple of times and it cost us, but I still don't get why everyone is so against him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,061 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, bigbluewillie said: Me too I know this is the Kepa thread but... What is so wrong with Mendy when he first came here I said thank christ at last a keeper that can catch a ball and was very safe. Then he became a real fuckup trying to play out with his feet got caught out a couple of times and it cost us, but I still don't get why everyone is so against him. I don't believe people are against him per se, but his limitations are more prevalent with the style of football we're trying to play. As they say, possession football starts from the back; you can't exactly do that if your GK is hoofing it long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 3 hours ago, LAM09 said: I don't believe people are against him per se, but his limitations are more prevalent with the style of football we're trying to play. As they say, possession football starts from the back; you can't exactly do that if your GK is hoofing it long. Ironically it was Kepa doing just that that started the chain of events that led to the 2-2. I think Mendy was actually ok with distribution in his short prime, ok he'll never have been Ederson or even Alisson/Maignan but he made some pretty good passes at times, Tuchel even namedropped him for such at one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,061 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 15 minutes ago, Tomo said: Ironically it was Kepa doing just that that started the chain of events that led to the 2-2. I think Mendy was actually ok with distribution in his short prime, ok he'll never have been Ederson or even Alisson/Maignan but he made some pretty good passes at times, Tuchel even namedropped him for such at one point. I've tried to ignore the events of last week. However, KK was just as much at fault for stupidly going in to intercept for no reason, which presented the chance for Everton's attacker. Away to West Ham and the obvious one against RM are the two most vivid memories of Mendy's distribution. The fact we're even having this discussion goes to show a new GK should be a main priority in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 On 25/03/2023 at 06:58, NikkiCFC said: Some interesting stats: Courtois 154 games for Chelsea 58 cleen sheets. Kepa 151 games 58 cleen sheets. This is the problem with looking at stats in isolation. The difference between Kepa and TC are incredibly stark. I believe if you go to a full break down of all stats between Kepa and TC it becomes apprantly clear why TC is an elite GK and Kepa is a GK where you struggle to find another PL who would take him as their No.1. Kepa has far too limitations as a GK from the swinging of his hands behind his back before attempting a save (which cause his 'weak wrists') to his physical limitations to long range shots (which is why Tielmanns said after the FA Cup final of '21, that he only took on such a long shot against him as he cannot reach into the far corners; hence why his save percentage to long range shots is dire; I think at that point he has zero saves to shots for 25 yards or more to his top left hand corner in three years) to TC who had difficulty in his early part of his career to ground shots (hence the memes of him having his legs wide open) due to his height (which he has largely resolved by standing in a more statuesque fashion when dealing with 121's.) On 25/03/2023 at 11:37, bigbluewillie said: Me too I know this is the Kepa thread but... What is so wrong with Mendy when he first came here I said thank christ at last a keeper that can catch a ball and was very safe. Then he became a real fuckup trying to play out with his feet got caught out a couple of times and it cost us, but I still don't get why everyone is so against him. This is the thing. There have been a lot of posters on here who dropped to their knees and swallowed anything the hipster pundits put in front of them (particularly that 433 or that a back 4 brings you results) without looking to what our actual sqauds strengths are, which is clearly a back 3 and pushing James/Chilwell on. As a result, when playing a back 3, they would always jump on the weakest link (Mendy's ball playing abilities or, when he was here, Alonso's acceleration.) However, what is lost in all of this is that if you have a ball playing CCB (see Silva or Fofana and particularly a pressure resistant No.6 who can shift the ball very quickly under pressure (see Enzo and Kova)) there is no real need for a ball playing GK (if that means the basics of GK play is undermined) as the GK always has a passer on and can lay off fairly easily (something Mendy can do faily reasonably.) On 25/03/2023 at 13:03, LAM09 said: I don't believe people are against him per se, but his limitations are more prevalent with the style of football we're trying to play. As they say, possession football starts from the back; you can't exactly do that if your GK is hoofing it long. Not true. If you play a back three and you have both a ball playing CCB and a No.6 who can avoid the press by quick releases, the GK's ability to play with their feet is greatly reduced and their aerial abilities is much more valued as set pieces become a lot less fraught. All of Mendy's massive mistakes came when he essentially didn't have Kova as a secondary outlet to Silva. On 25/03/2023 at 16:22, Tomo said: Ironically it was Kepa doing just that that started the chain of events that led to the 2-2. I think Mendy was actually ok with distribution in his short prime, ok he'll never have been Ederson or even Alisson/Maignan but he made some pretty good passes at times, Tuchel even namedropped him for such at one point. Mendy was at his best when he knew he had players he could play to when he knew they would face pressure quickly. Hence, why he always played well in teams who lined up with Kova and Silva in them and less so when one was missing. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,061 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 On 03/04/2023 at 00:40, King Kante said: Not true. If you play a back three and you have both a ball playing CCB and a No.6 who can avoid the press by quick releases, the GK's ability to play with their feet is greatly reduced and their aerial abilities is much more valued as set pieces become a lot less fraught. All of Mendy's massive mistakes came when he essentially didn't have Kova as a secondary outlet to Silva. In other words, play around a GK that's been below par for two seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,510 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 fuck off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,510 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 T-Rex arms beaten by another worldie, some things never change. I miss us having a commanding GK like Cech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 44 minutes ago, Johnnyeye said: T-Rex arms beaten by another worldie, some things never change. I miss us having a commanding GK like Cech. Such a shame, went from Cech/Courtois to Kepa.  Feel like we're stuck with Kepa though as no-one will pay his full wages (part of the reason why Lazio decided not to pursue a loan) Mendy will probably be sold back to a Ligue 1 team Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Worst time for him to revert to type, camera saves shots or headers straight at him, makes a big deal out of it and let’s in almost every half decent long range shot. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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