The Sarri Thread

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GRACIA UNDER SERIOUS CONSIDERATION FOR THE CHELSEA JOB

https://readchelsea.com/2019/05/16/gracia-under-serious-consideration-for-the-chelsea-job/

Watford manager Javi Gracia is said to be under serious consideration for the Chelsea job this summer.

According to a report from the Express, the Hornets boss has earned admirers at Stamford Bridge as a result of the work he has done at Watford.

It was reported earlier this week that Frank Lampard was the man that Chelsea have decided they want to replace Maurizio Sarri this summer, but that has not stopped speculation about who could be in the hot seat next season.

 

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22 minutes ago, Mana said:

Lampard surprised me. 

Him and Derby County made Championship history yesterday becoming the first team to go to the final after losing the first leg at home.

But let's not jump on Lampard yet. If he takes Derby to the PL, and pulls a Nuno in the PL next season, grab him ASAP.

IF Derby beats Villa, then the RLC injury fucks us yet again, as we now need to recall Mount (he would have in a perfect position at an EPL Derby to further his development)

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9 minutes ago, Mana said:

Lampard surprised me. 

Him and Derby County made Championship history yesterday becoming the first team to go to the final after losing the first leg at home.

But let's not jump on Lampard yet. If he takes Derby to the PL, and pulls a Nuno in the PL next season, grab him ASAP.

The other flip side of looking at it would be do you want another season of Sarri? I know that you are one of those on the forum most vociferous in their criticism of him so would you rather take a chance on a largely unknown quantity but one that would be immensely popular and have the best interests of the club in their heart or another season to see what Sarri can do albeit without our best player?

I'd agree usually about Lampard getting more experience and another year of Sarri wouldn't be an issue for me if everything around the club at present wasn't so toxic. The fans have largely made their decision on him and I just see it being a thankless task he'll have getting people back on board. As I mentioned on a previous post, the slightest slip up or bad result will just put it all back to square one. That sort of atmosphere at the club will also be hugely unhelpful for any younger players we're hoping to make an impact next season.

So if Sarri were to go, then the question becomes who next?

We're now being linked with the Watford manager. With all due respect, what has he done to suggest he's a Chelsea manager? He's been very much a journeyman his entire playing and managerial career to date. Nuno similarly may be doing well with Wolves but had really poor spells with Valencia and Porto where there was much more expectation on him. Eddie Howe flopped away from Bournemouth. Some managers there is just a 'fit' at certain clubs and they seemingly catch lightning in a bottle. We've been burnt a few times bringing managers in on a similar basis (AVB, potentially Sarri). 

Maybe Lampard would prove to be the same and Derby is the right fit of club for him but I just think if we were going to punt on a riskier choice, I'd far rather the one that already has a connection and understanding of the club. He'll understand the size and scale of the job here because he's already spent 13 years of his footballing career at the club.

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[MoroccanBlue 5,381]

Losing Chris Jones played a part 

[Antonio8 736]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

 

why is this post  in sarri's topic? they are all traumatic injuries, I don't think there is a staff specialized in the prevention of achille's tendon ruptures

[milka 3,394]

Chelsea finish in Top four : 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Antonio8 said:

why is this post  in sarri's topic? they are all traumatic injuries, I don't think there is a staff specialized in the prevention of achille's tendon ruptures

Achilles lesion does not require trauma. It’s usually caused by overextension and overuse.

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2 hours ago, Antonio8 said:

why is this post  in sarri's topic? they are all traumatic injuries, I don't think there is a staff specialized in the prevention of achille's tendon ruptures

Because Sarri and his staff are the ones who manage the players? You can argue that CHO’s and RLC’s injuries were down to bad luck but there’s no bad luck with Kante’s hamstring injury (Sarri admitted that he shouldn’t have played him when he got the injury) and Rudiger’s knee injury, when he was seemingly rushed back early. Furthermore, we very rarely get these many serious injuries to our players before this season but now, we have 4 important players out injured.

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27 minutes ago, Jason said:

Because Sarri and his staff are the ones who manage the players? You can argue that CHO’s and RLC’s injuries were down to bad luck but there’s no bad luck with Kante’s hamstring injury (Sarri admitted that he shouldn’t have played him when he got the injury) and Rudiger’s knee injury, when he was seemingly rushed back early. Furthermore, we very rarely get these many serious injuries to our players before this season but now, we have 4 important players out injured.

Just a while ago I was thinking at least Chelsea never had any serious injury problems like Arse or Bayern have. We always had very healthy fit team and big luck with injuries / the lack of them.

Then spring 2019 happend.

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8 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Just a while ago I was thinking at least Chelsea never had any serious injury problems like Arse or Bayern have. We always had very healthy fit team and big luck with injuries / the lack of them.

Then spring 2019 happend.

I think we've always done well with minor and niggling injuries, we seem to get few of those. Or maybe we've just had the right characters over the years that would play through them without complaint.

But I think we've had our fair share of major injuries over the years just like everybody else - Cech, Robben, Ballack, etc. Not to mention Essien and Joe Cole pretty much lost their careers with the injuries they suffered with us.

Even pre Roman, Di Matteo and Casiraghi were both forced to retire under our watch. In fact the injury to Casiraghi and a major injury to Poyet during the 1998/99 season I think was the difference between us winning the title and ending up third. We only lost 3 games in the league that season and finished only 4 points behind United - that United side that won the treble no less. So much for a team that didn't exist until 2004?!

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3 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I think we've always done well with minor and niggling injuries, we seem to get few of those. Or maybe we've just had the right characters over the years that would play through them without complaint.

But I think we've had our fair share of major injuries over the years just like everybody else - Cech, Robben, Ballack, etc. Not to mention Essien and Joe Cole pretty much lost their careers with the injuries they suffered with us.

Even pre Roman, Di Matteo and Casiraghi were both forced to retire under our watch. In fact the injury to Casiraghi and a major injury to Poyet during the 1998/99 season I think was the difference between us winning the title and ending up third. We only lost 3 games in the league that season and finished only 4 points behind United - that United side that won the treble no less. So much for a team that didn't exist until 2004?!

Those injuries you mentioned were pretty long ago though and some of them were just unfortunate. Same can’t exactly be said about now.

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I think after next season he need to go. Too much animosity from the fans. It is better for both parties. 

We need to go back and hire somebody like simeone, it will suit everyone better. We will have instant success because we are back to our old identity. 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, communicate said:

I think after next season he need to go. Too much animosity from the fans. It is better for both parties. 

We need to go back and hire somebody like simeone, it will suit everyone better. We will have instant success because we are back to our old identity. 

 

 

 

Fuck the old identity. I want to play like City and Liverpool. Parking the bus is boring as fuck.

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11 hours ago, Robchels said:

Achilles lesion does not require trauma. It’s usually caused by overextension and overuse.

CHO didn't play for months in this season,  RLC too. 

there are different types of trauma, they didn't get injured from the bed 

 

11 hours ago, Jason said:

Because Sarri and his staff are the ones who manage the players? You can argue that CHO’s and RLC’s injuries were down to bad luck but there’s no bad luck with Kante’s hamstring injury (Sarri admitted that he shouldn’t have played him when he got the injury) and Rudiger’s knee injury, when he was seemingly rushed back early. Furthermore, we very rarely get these many serious injuries to our players before this season but now, we have 4 important players out injured.

injuries like these happen, especially if the players are playing without any pause from two years (due to the world cup) 

liverpool: salah, firmino, henderson, keita

tottenham: kane, verthongen, winks, rose 

inter played against frankfurt with two youngsters because of the injuries 

and the list could continue

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5 hours ago, DDA said:

Fuck the old identity. I want to play like City and Liverpool. Parking the bus is boring as fuck.

Nahh it is what most fans want. I guarantee most fans prefer the way we play under Conte. We were very defensive even when we won the league. It has always been the case for Chelsea. 

I think most Chelsea fans really envy the way pool play. Front footed, high pressing. It doesn't take a genius to understand what will happen to us playing that way. We will concede tons of goals. 

Ps :It looks like allegri is leaving juve. He is certainly an option for us. 

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Get rid of this fraud and get Allegri this summer.

[Special Juan 28,141]

Yep just confirmed Allegri leave Juventus.

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17 minutes ago, NiclasCFC said:

Get rid of this fraud and get Allegri this summer.

Allegri < Conte

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Lets sign a coach that was a sacked because he failed to achieve the goal. 

Id much rather stick with Sarri or get a promising manager from Ajax, Pochettino,...

Also big no on Simeone. They guy is past time, as is Mourinho.