Sarri But Not Sarri Thread

[Vesper 30,119]

His mid 1990's Ajax teams were crazy good

1994-95 especially

 

[Johnnyeye 7,501]

4 hours ago, Vesper said:

His mid 1990's Ajax teams were crazy good

1994-95 especially

 

what a team, that Ajax academy surely has produced brilliant players down the years.

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

6 hours ago, Vesper said:

His mid 1990's Ajax teams were crazy good

1994-95 especially

 

Stacked.

Bosman ruling messed that club up.  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4533326/Ajax-1995-Champions-League-Bosman-dismay.html

I knew that they lost some key players due to that, but by 99 they had lost everyone.  Davids, Reiziger, Kluivert, Bogarde all gone for free.

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

Chelsea's set pieces:

https://statsbomb.com/2018/10/examining-chelseas-set-piece-routines/

 

 

[!Hazard! 3,394]

5 hours ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

Stacked.

Bosman ruling messed that club up.  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4533326/Ajax-1995-Champions-League-Bosman-dismay.html

I knew that they lost some key players due to that, but by 99 they had lost everyone.  Davids, Reiziger, Kluivert, Bogarde all gone for free.

Ridiculous when you think that this squad would be worth a billion euros today.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

Interview with Zola, Sarri and Jorginho.

[lucio 5,418]

lmao what were those subs? taking off Christensen for Luiz when it was Cahill shitting the bed. Then off comes loftus cheek, our brightest attacking spark, always the players with potential that get the hook

[OneMoSalah 8,885]

46 minutes ago, lucio said:

lmao what were those subs? taking off Christensen for Luiz when it was Cahill shitting the bed. Then off comes loftus cheek, our brightest attacking spark, always the players with potential that get the hook

Honestly Christensen was just as poor I felt.

Didn't matter who he took off if the defence didn't play as bad he'd of been able to make positive changes.

Pedro needed minutes, thought Ruben plays well but was a sensible sub to make. 

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, OneMoSalah said:

Honestly Christensen was just as poor I felt. Didn't matter who he took off if the defence didn't play as bad he'd of been able to make positive changes. Pedro needed minutes, thought Ruben plays well but was a sensible sub.

If anything, I'd point the finger at Sarri's rigidity with the player-position selection. Said Loftus-Cheek, Kovacic and Barkley are all competing one place and to compromise, he decided to stick Ruben out wide, which is not even his best position. Why can't he think differently and play a different kind of midfield at times? 

[OneMoSalah 8,885]

10 minutes ago, Jason said:

If anything, I'd point the finger at Sarri's rigidity with the player-position selection. Said Loftus-Cheek, Kovacic and Barkley are all competing one place and to compromise, he decided to stick Ruben out wide, which is not even his best position. Why can't he think differently and play a different kind of midfield at times? 

Tbf looking on how the game went, the pair of Kovacic and Kante had to play, they give us plenty of energy in MF.

Maybe he could have dropped one of them and used Ruben more centrally or used Ross but had Pedro not been brought off the other week then he'd probably have started and we might have seen that.

Again, he's not hugely known for rotatiom and you can see why perhaps. The back 4 was all over the place because they've hardly played together, the spaces between the defence and MF was quite alarming (been an issue with our first 11 at times never mind a second string team).

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, OneMoSalah said:

Tbf looking on how the game went, the pair of Kovacic and Kante had to play, they give us plenty of energy in MF.

Maybe he could have dropped one of them and used Ruben more centrally or used Ross but had Pedro not been brought off the other week then he'd probably have started and we might have seen that.

Again, he's not hugely known for rotatiom and you can see why perhaps. The back 4 was all over the place because they've hardly played together, the spaces between the defence and MF was quite alarming (been an issue with our first 11 at times never mind a second string team).

Not having issue with Sarri's rotation but more so with his player-position selection. To him, it's Jorginho/Fabregas, Kovacic/Barkley/Loftus-Cheek and Kante. We know he wants a deep lying playmaker in his midfield trio but is he THAT rigid that he can't even switch it up some times? Is there really only one way to play Sarriball? Can't he play Kante in DM and Barkley and Kovacic ahead of him. Think I've seen this discussion take place in the forum but feel like his rigidity will cost us games and/or players somewhere down the line. 

[Tomo 21,751]

11 minutes ago, Jason said:

Not having issue with Sarri's rotation but more so with his player-position selection. To him, it's Jorginho/Fabregas, Kovacic/Barkley/Loftus-Cheek and Kante. We know he wants a deep lying playmaker in his midfield trio but is he THAT rigid that he can't even switch it up some times? Is there really only one way to play Sarriball? Can't he play Kante in DM and Barkley and Kovacic ahead of him. Think I've seen this discussion take place in the forum but feel like his rigidity will cost us games and/or players somewhere down the line. 

All the other positions can be comprised but the one he needs a specific player is DLP, similar to how quality wingers made or breaked Fergie's tactics or wingbacks with Conte.

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Tomo said:

All the other positions can be comprised but the one he needs a specific player is DLP, similar to how quality wingers made or breaked Fergie's tactics or wingbacks with Conte.

But the point here is about flexibility. Sure, Fergie's United were known for their wing play but it wasn't his do-or-die approach. His team carried threat from midfield as well and there were times when he tweaked it and heck, he even played the diamond midfield system from time-to-time. As for Conte, we all know he likes the back 3 system but at the same time, we all know the severe limitations of that system. When it doesn't work out, as we saw many times last season, he rarely tries to change things around. Not saying Sarri's football has gone to pots that he needs to make a wholesale change but surely, it wouldn't hurt to make some minor tweaks if/when needed, would it?

[Vesper 30,119]

On 29/10/2018 at 5:12 PM, !Hazard! said:

Ridiculous when you think that this squad would be worth a billion euros today.

and Patrick Kluivert wasn't even listed, lolol

[Vesper 30,119]

1 minute ago, Jason said:

But the point here is about flexibility. Sure, Fergie's United were known for their wing play but it wasn't his do-or-die approach. His team carried threat from midfield as well and there were times when he tweaked it and heck, he even played the diamond midfield system from time-to-time. As for Conte, we all know he likes the back 3 system but at the same time, we all know the severe limitations of that system. When it doesn't work out, as we saw many times last season, he rarely tries to change things around. Not saying Sarri's football has gone to pots that he needs to make a wholesale change but surely, it wouldn't hurt to make some minor tweaks if/when needed, would it?

Tweeks yes, at times

BUT

We just flat out need better, younger players

NO CHANCE we roll forward over next 2,3 years as a top 10, let alone top 5 club in world with:

 

Luiz (and other than Ampadu, bad backups backup to Rudiger)

Azpi (sorry he just isnt a Sarriball RB atm, he simply has to turn it around) Zappacosta is just not good enough

Current backup options at DH DMF (buy Tonali!!!) as Jorginho cannot play every minute of every game and Cesc is a spent force

Alonso (Sarri is insane to call him on verge of being best LB in world) Emerson doesn't look like the answer either

CMF/B to B hybrid options if we lose Kovacic (as a non-adapting, out of position Kante is looking more and more like not the answer)

Current options at AMF if Barkley is injured

Willian RW (shambolic!!!) Pedro is soon simply too old and frail

LW could be a true nightmare soon, if both Eden and CHO walk

Centre Forward (worse shape than RW!)

and finally

truly massive amount of deadwood on the books, draining us badly and losing value daily