Antonio Rudiger

[Vesper 30,106]

Antonio Rudiger closer than ever to disappointing free transfer exit from Chelsea

https://www.Chelsea-news.co/2021/09/antonio-rudiger-closer-than-ever-to-disappointing-free-transfer-exit-from-Chelsea/

Antonio Rudiger still has not agreed a new contract at Chelsea, and according to 90min.com, an agreement is not getting any closer.

Letting the defender’s contract run down a little seemed sensible a year ago, when he wasn’t in the team anyway, but his revival since then means that locking him in to a long term deal has become essential.

If the club doesn’t come to an agreement with the former Roma man before January, he can start speaking to other teams about a free transfer – and it’s easy to see him being tempted by a big offer from elsewhere.

Certainly the situation is now playing into his hands quite nicely, and he’s unlikely to give up the superb leverage of his situation – at least until he can turn it into a deal he’s happy with.

As it stands, it looks increasingly likely that Rudiger heads into the sunset next summer.

[nyikolajevics 2,690]

Would be disappointing if he left.. He might not be top5 defender in the world but his mentality and leadership was essential for winning CL. Players like Kante, Kova, Jorginho, James, Chilwell, Kai, Mount, Werner might be very good footballers but they are not the craz guys who will scream into the opponents faces when it’s necessary. Ofc we don’t need to become Bad Boy Pistons of football but some guys like him needed in the team.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Would be a loss but he is replaceable. Will be 29 next summer already so if he overplays his hand we should let him leave, not be held to ransom. 
plenty of good cbs available. As long as we have TT and the back 5, even half decent defenders will look solid as long as they are quick and  good on the ball. 

[Atomiswave 6,117]

Man this is bullshit man, what the fuck does he want? And I for one will not claim he is replaceable, and is indeed a world class defender, minimum top5 for sure. Is in his prime, playing for WC manager, plays for an elite club going places, the fans are fond of him etc.......what the fuck is wrong with you Rudi? At least if you have your eyes set elswhere then be honest about it.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

7 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Man this is bullshit man, what the fuck does he want? And I for one will not claim he is replaceable, and is indeed a world class defender, minimum top5 for sure. Is in his prime, playing for WC manager, plays for an elite club going places, the fans are fond of him etc.......what the fuck is wrong with you Rudi? At least if you have your eyes set elswhere then be honest about it.

If we win the league this season, he has won everything possible so might look for a new challenge. I don't think he is top5 tho.... he has played 7 world class months for us but other than that has not really been on this level consistently. Not for Roma not for us under Conte or Sarri or Löw. He had good patches but never been this good. Once he is taken out of our system as in the German team he suddenly looks rather normal. HIs personality might be harder to replace tho

[Atomiswave 6,117]

1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said:

If we win the league this season, he has won everything possible so might look for a new challenge. I don't think he is top5 tho.... he has played 7 world class months for us but other than that has not really been on this level consistently. Not for Roma not for us under Conte or Sarri or Löw. He had good patches but never been this good. Once he is taken out of our system as in the German team he suddenly looks rather normal. HIs personality might be harder to replace tho

Good points but I still have him as top 5 since TT came in. I really dont care how he would look for other teams, what does he do for Chels, and he has been utterly quality for us.

His leadership abilities are worth a gold......he will regret leaving if it comes to that.

[Vesper 30,106]

2 hours ago, Atomiswave said:

Man this is bullshit man, what the fuck does he want? And I for one will not claim he is replaceable, and is indeed a world class defender, minimum top5 for sure. Is in his prime, playing for WC manager, plays for an elite club going places, the fans are fond of him etc.......what the fuck is wrong with you Rudi? At least if you have your eyes set elswhere then be honest about it.

Top 20 CB's under 33yo

no real order (AC and Rüdiger make the cut, but not top ten IMHO, mainly becuase they are at their best in a back 3)

Rúben Dias  
Virgil van Dijk 
Alessandro Bastoni 
Marquinhos  
Matthijs de Ligt
Raphaël Varane  
José María Giménez   '
Milan Skriniar   
David Alaba   
Harry Maguire  
Stefan de Vrij    
Kalidou Koulibaly  
Andreas Christensen
Jules Koundé
Aymeric Laporte 
Antonio Rüdiger
Dayot Upamecano
Alessio Romagnoli 
Pau Torres 
Lucas Hernández

 

Old warhorses who can still be WC in a one game setting 

Thiago Silva
Sergio Ramos    
Gerard Piqué   
Leonardo Bonucci
Giorgio Chiellini 

 

[OneMoSalah 8,885]

Tuchel questioned PSG letting players such as Thiago Silva and Edison Cavani leave on a free… this led to him and Leonardo disagreeing over recruitment and eventually his dismissal as manager. 

Based on how much of a fan Tuchel is of Toni, not convincing him to sign a new deal would be stupid. Not that it would necessarily go that way for instance re TT and Leonardo but if he is a key component for Tuchel, it would make sense to try everything to get a deal over the line. 

Edited September 7, 2021 by OneMoSalah

[DH1988 1,348]

I'm in favour of keeping Toni, but not at ridiculous wages, he is important to the team sure and has shown massive improvement since TT came in, but still, it has to be reasonable and hopefully he sees it that way as well.

 

[Atomiswave 6,117]

11 hours ago, Vesper said:

Top 20 CB's under 33yo

no real order (AC and Rüdiger make the cut, but not top ten IMHO, mainly becuase they are at their best in a back 3)

Rúben Dias  
Virgil van Dijk 
Alessandro Bastoni 
Marquinhos  
Matthijs de Ligt
Raphaël Varane  
José María Giménez   '
Milan Skriniar   
David Alaba   
Harry Maguire  
Stefan de Vrij    
Kalidou Koulibaly  
Andreas Christensen
Jules Koundé
Aymeric Laporte 
Antonio Rüdiger
Dayot Upamecano
Alessio Romagnoli 
Pau Torres 
Lucas Hernández

 

Old warhorses who can still be WC in a one game setting 

Thiago Silva
Sergio Ramos    
Gerard Piqué   
Leonardo Bonucci
Giorgio Chiellini 

 

Thanks but imo there is not a better defender than Toni since TT came in, Lets hope he signs.

[chelsea_4_eva 1,182]

If its true that he is asking to be one of the top earners then i can see why the club are hesitant

[OneMoSalah 8,885]

I don’t think he will be asking to be a top earner considering the likes of Werner, Kante, Havertz etc are on a lot more but he will want a pay rise for sure. Although this happens with 99% of all contract renewals so its only to be expected.  

This is probably his last big contract too hence why he is maybe taking his time, with clubs like PSG and Madrid looking at him but I am sure we will make a good offer.

He has said he wants to stay before and his role in the team as well as Tuchel’s clear belief/faith in him so I doubt it will be a major issue unless we are going to not offer something reasonable to reflect his role here. 

Edited September 9, 2021 by OneMoSalah

[NikkiCFC 8,294]

He wants 200k per week. PSG is after him, especially for free next summer they will give him huge signing bonus so I can see how this will end. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,378]

We will miss his shithousery but that is it. There are plenty of options available that can be molded into Tuchel's system. 

 

[Vesper 30,106]

On 09/09/2021 at 18:07, NikkiCFC said:

He wants 200k per week. PSG is after him, especially for free next summer they will give him huge signing bonus so I can see how this will end. 

He is literally at the the hardest age to decide what to do with him.

He turns 30 in late winter next season, so IF we give him £200K PW for 4 years, you are look at him turning 30, 31, 32, and 33 midseason in those 4 years. Obviously at the end of the 4 years, he value will be very low, as the team that would sign him is buying a soon to be (that same season) 34yo CB.

Also, just how good (and importantly, healthy) during the those last 2 years of the 4 (IF we do re-sign him) when he he turns 32, and then 33 in mid-season us he going to be for US? Us the Rudiger of 3, 4 years from now going to be the same Rudiger as he has been the past year? If he does go down in quality, is it really worth paying almost £21m (£20.8m would be the cost his last 2 years) in salary for a rotational squad player, who will have very little value come the end?

I would be happy with a THREE year extension, at say £192.4K PW (so he can look at it as basically 10 million quid per year on the nose, £4,800 per year over 10m), then let him walk on a free at 32 year of age, as surely a Serie A club will still pay him a decent salary for 2 or even 3 years. I do not think shelling out another £10m for a 32/33 yo Rudiger is worth the extra year.